Chokeholds on conservatives

Liberals seize chance after Tucson tragedy to go on the ideological warpath

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Never let a crisis go to waste, far-left liberals like to say.

So, predictably, it won't be enough to just slander conservatives by trying to link them to a madman's shooting in Tucson.

Democrats also want to use the case to restrict guns; pass special laws protecting congressmen in vague and likely unconstitutional ways; and choke off conservative dialogue on the airwaves.

On the first two: There are already plenty of laws restricting gun use by the criminal or mentally ill, and laws prohibiting violence and even threats of violence against all federal officials. More laws, especially as a knee-jerk reaction to a shooting, will likely only infringe on the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens -- and come close to criminalizing criticism of Congress.

Rep. Robert Brady, D-Pa., wants to outlaw using any language or symbols that could even be perceived as threatening toward members of Congress and other federal officials. That would give elected leaders about as much power as a sovereign to jail dissenters.

Meanwhile, Rep. Jim Clyburn, D-S.C. -- ominously the third-ranking Democrat in the House -- wants to bring back the Orwellian-named "Fairness Doctrine" -- in which the government, not the public, determines how political speech will be balanced between conservative and liberal on radio and television broadcasts. It's an unambiguous assault on the more ubiquitous conservative speech, and therefore free speech.

It's an interesting punctuation mark, too, after the First Amendment and the rest of the Constitution was read on the floor of the House. Apparently Clyburn was otherwise engaged at the time.

Clyburn's reckless views on "rethinking" free speech aren't just ludicrous, they're dangerous in the hands of a lawmaker. Never mind trying to remind him that the First Amendment was the Civil Rights movement's best friend. He's got his mind made up that the Tucson shooting was the fault of conservative speech, regardless of there being utterly no evidence of that.

Some people have called for more civil dialogue in the wake of the shooting. We support that. But some people, such as Clyburn, just want less dialogue -- and want the government to mediate it.

Infringing on basic rights is hardly civil.

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soldout
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soldout 01/24/11 - 12:38 am
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The fight for freedom never

The fight for freedom never ends as there are plenty who are insecure and must control other people since they can't trust them to do the right thing.

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old49er 01/24/11 - 04:20 am
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Political speech should be

Political speech should be "regulated" by the free market. If certain talk radio shows don't get ratings, their sponsors will cancel them. People like Clyburn just want to limit viewpoints that oppose theirs.

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carcraft 01/24/11 - 05:43 am
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What about licensing

What about licensing journalists, they were the ones that were so quick to tar conservatives with out clue about what was going on. Can we sue them for malapractice like Doctors get sued?

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southernguy08 01/24/11 - 06:58 am
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The "Fairness Doctrine" will
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The "Fairness Doctrine" will be resurrected...just watch. The liberals can't stand the fact that conservative radio shows thrive while their own die time and time again. Beck, Hannity, and Limbaugh get blamed for everything. Yeah, I'm laughing.

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rmwhitley 01/24/11 - 07:01 am
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All you have to do to see
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All you have to do to see what the left is: Look at World War ll. The French, with the exception of the "resistance", were sheep ready for the slaughter. No backbone. Consider conservatives as the "resistance".

Runner46
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Runner46 01/24/11 - 08:52 am
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Freedom has it's price. Part

Freedom has it's price. Part of that price is constant vigilance. No more can we, the citizens of the United States, can we afford to go about our daily lives without a watchful eye on our elected officials. No more can we allow the bait and switch politics of tell them anything to get elected, then do whatever you want for special interest groups.

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Riverman1 01/24/11 - 08:56 am
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This call for CIVILITY on the

This call for CIVILITY on the airways, in print and online is nothing more than liberals realizing they have lost the fight. Any group that loses power in any way wants to stop the debate. I got their "let's all sit together" alright.

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RoadKing09 01/24/11 - 09:12 am
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The Congressmen & women full

The Congressmen & women full know what the dangers of being in public
after some of the things they try to do to the voters. If they want more protection let them hire their own bodyguards with their own money not the taxpayers. If not, don't bother running for public office. I would be more afraid of ruining my reputation than an a shooter.

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fd1962 01/24/11 - 09:32 am
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Chronicle lamely defines
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Chronicle lamely defines paranoia, again... You can't logically lament a 'chokehold' on conservative expression in one breath and then brag about more ubiquitous conservative speech the next. Makes no sense, as usual.

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Jon Lester 01/24/11 - 09:37 am
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Now would be a good time for

Now would be a good time for you on the ACES to speak out in favor of expanded mental health coverage for the public benefit. While it's true someone like Loughner can't really be made to get help, cutting back resources (as Arizona has done of late) does not help things. You never know when that one person might cause greater problems for the rest of us a consequence of losing his medications.

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Riverman1 01/24/11 - 09:38 am
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We should have a committee to

We should have a committee to approve all metaphors, similes and personifications.

Techfan
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Techfan 01/24/11 - 10:03 am
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I don't care for the Fairness

I don't care for the Fairness Doctrine, although it didn't appear nefarious when it was in place, ' And now for an opposing viewpoint". What needs to go are the rules allowing a handful of companies to control virtually all the media in one market. there are 34 radio stations in Augusta, 19 are owned by 3 companies (eight of the remaining are religious/gospel). Doesn't leave much choice.

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Chillen 01/24/11 - 10:55 am
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Free speech is under attack.

Free speech is under attack. Thoughts are also under attack (hate crimes - honestly, what crime isn't a hate crime?). Liberals would love to disarm Americans so that only criminals & the govt have arms. What a mess that would be. By the time they are done with us we will all be clones. Reporting to work & living in factories 20 to a room in triple decker bunk beds just like the Chinese.

This is America. I am free to say what I want. I am free think what I want. I am free to hire who I want to and fire who I want to. I am free to run a business how I see fit (as long as I don't intentionally harm others unlawfully). I am free to bear arms - as many as I want. I am free to defend my home and my family. I am a free person.

Liberals take note. If you don't want those things, get the heck out and leave our freedoms alone.

rmwhitley
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rmwhitley 01/24/11 - 01:11 pm
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I certainly pray that
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I certainly pray that conservatism becomes ubiquitous. Enough liberal garbage permeates America.

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staind620 01/24/11 - 01:39 pm
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We should have all

We should have all politicians sign a contract stating all the topics on which they ran to stop the "Bait & Switch" politicians and to hold all of them to their word. If they do not live up to what they stated during their campaign then we fire them. They work for us. If your politicians are not working in your best interest (and I don't me what they perceive as your best interest) then they need to be enlightened. We need to stand up and tell them (like we did last November) that we are fed up with their BS and we are not going to take it anymore. There is a wonderful document that was written during the founding of our great nation. It states many things that are our rights that they as politicians have no right to take from us. Remind them of this. They will not take my guns or speach (even though the AC won't let me say things that hurt your feelings) without a fight. Remind them also that it is our Right to revolt in the event that the Constitution is being trampled by politicians that are in it for the money and power and not the best interest of the country.

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onlysane1left 01/24/11 - 01:47 pm
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This is America. I am free to

This is America. I am free to say what I want. I am free think what I want. I am free to hire who I want to and fire who I want to. I am free to run a business how I see fit (as long as I don't intentionally harm others unlawfully). I am free to bear arms - as many as I want. I am free to defend my home and my family. I am a free person.

Liberals take note.

One definition of liberal:
liberal (noun) - an advocate or adherent of liberalism (defined as a political philosophy based on belief in progress, the essential goodness of the human race, and the autonomy of the individual and standing for the protection of political and civil liberties) especially in individual rights.

How come if the definition of liberal sounds similar to what most conservatives feel, why do they have such a hard time with "liberials"?

I could care less about the causes of liberals or conservatives, both are selfish groups of people, who care nothing about most the ideals they claim are so reverant to them. Trying to keep power makes you say what you think the people want to hear. This whole article is more he said, she said stuff. There are real problems in this country bigger than the chokehold of liberals and conservatives, and their petty nitpick fights, but some can't see the forest for all these dang trees in the way.......

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burninater 01/24/11 - 02:24 pm
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"Some people have called for

"Some people have called for more civil dialogue in the wake of the shooting. We support that."

You support that by publishing an editorial called "Chokeholds on conservatives: Liberals seize chance after Tucson tragedy to go on the ideological warpath"?

Dare I say that your actions clearly show that your claims to support efforts towards more civil dialogue are a bald-faced lie? Or is that too uncivil for you?

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Riverman1 01/24/11 - 03:04 pm
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Burninator, we support your

Burninator, we support your right to be uncivil because as the closing line said, "Infringing on basic rights is hardly civil." Now you support our right to be uncivil, civil and all degrees in between.

Chillen
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Chillen 01/24/11 - 03:11 pm
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onlysane1left - The word

onlysane1left - The word liberal has been redefined by democrats, that's why. It now means big govt, big tax, big regulation loving person. We need small govt, less regulation, less taxes and less govt spending in order to make it. We will not survive the "liberal" dream. And here is why.

Our society currently has 20% of its population on some form of welfare/entitlement (not including social security and medicare). Mostly people who CAN work but WON'T work. Europe does not have this big an entitlement crowd. Even without that, their socialist models are still crumbling like a 5 week old cookie.

Additionally the USA seems determined to "police" the world. We fight billion dollar wars, expecting nothing in return and gaining precious little. We send foreign aid to other nations & they laugh at us and disrespect us & NEVER return the favor. We funnel money into the UN only to have them tell us that we don't give enough & then try to "force" us to join their New World Order. We tax our companies & richest citizens and as a result, they are flocking out of here in droves - taking their money and their jobs with them.

Unless we fix some of these things really, really fast, we are totally screwed. That is a fact.

Dan at The Scott Daily Post
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Dan at The Scott Daily Post 01/24/11 - 04:43 pm
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"We tax our companies &

"We tax our companies & richest citizens and as a result, they are flocking out of here in droves - taking their money and their jobs with them."

End tax discrimination and class warfare.

burninater
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burninater 01/24/11 - 04:53 pm
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"We tax our companies &

"We tax our companies & richest citizens and as a result, they are flocking out of here in droves - taking their money and their jobs with them."

Huh? There are more wealthy Americans than at any other time in history, both by total numbers and by population percentage. The majority of income accrued by the wealthy is in the form of capital gains, which in America face one of the lowest "income" tax rates on the globe. The wealthy are staying in America because relative to other developed nations, taxes on the wealthy are REALLY low. Jobs are leaving America because there is cheaper labor elsewhere. Period. The "us vs. them" narrative completely keeps the masses at each others' throats, and misdirects attention away from the true economic situation: we are a global economy. If you plan to be an unskilled laborer, expect to compete against the wage structure of Bangladesh. If you honestly think that this simple fact is a function of a liberal or conservative policy, there is little hope for you. Look at the numbers. ANYONE who thinks the wealthy in America are in trouble has been fed a boatload of something rotten, and has taken it hook line and sinker.

Sideshow Bob
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Sideshow Bob 01/24/11 - 07:10 pm
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Techfan, there is NOTHING

Techfan, there is NOTHING preventing YOU from applying for an FCC license and starting your own radio station.

Dan at The Scott Daily Post
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Dan at The Scott Daily Post 01/24/11 - 08:12 pm
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burninator: How do you feel

burninator: How do you feel about progressive taxation? Do you think it's right or wrong?

Chillen
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Chillen 01/24/11 - 09:15 pm
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Dan, burninator thinks

Dan, burninator thinks progressive taxation is morally right. That is a guarantee. That's how progressives think. Someone works their butt off, sacrifices EVERYTHING, finally succeeds and makes $300,000 and now they are RICH and should "share" their wealth with others who are "less fortunate". Never mind that this person is hardly rich. They are quite comfortable but they don't enjoy the same loopholes and have teams of accountants like the mega millionaires. They can't afford them because they are NOT RICH! Progressives. Can't live with em, and can live without em.

Burninator - there are many wealthy folks leaving the USA - do some research. Heck, even I'M thinking about it!!!! I've got 2 or 3 places researched & under consideration if things continue to decline here.

Many companies have left. You know that too. Thank your unions for demanding that someone who turns a screw or operates a simple machine make $60,000 per year with great benefits & a full pension. No wonder we can't compete!!!! Also thank your liberal politicians for demanding too much tax from them and regulating them to the point that they could NEVER be competitive.

Dan at The Scott Daily Post
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Dan at The Scott Daily Post 01/24/11 - 09:35 pm
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Chillen: I agree with your

Chillen: I agree with your points on progressive taxation. I'm just interested in how burninator would justify that forcefully taking from other people who have more is morally or ethically right (assuming he's in favor of progressive taxation).

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ZEEMADMAN 01/25/11 - 06:28 am
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If more People had been Armed

If more People had been Armed & Trained with those Arms then Loughner would have been stopped. Very Possibly before He even got started. But everyone of the Anti-Gun-Nuts refuse to accept that idea. Never mind that every place that has a Shall Issue Law for Concealed Carry shows that Crime Rates Drop, Not Rise after that Law goes into effect. Criminals don't like Not knowing who's packing. They just want to Grab Guns & Destroy them because they think Guns Kill People. People Kill People. Guns is just one of the ways they do that. From My Cold Dead Hand Mean anything to You? I served My Country for 26+ Years. Yet I have heard Police invited to speak to a Concealed Carry Class try to tell everyone there How they'll shoot their own Families or Freeze at the critical moment. Insulting at the very least speaking to a room full of Combat Veterans. We didn't freeze then so I don't see anyone freezing when confronting a Robber, Burglar, Rapist even if they have a gun too if it comes down to stopping them from Killing You, or a Family Member. Not to mention it's a whole lot easier to carry a Gun all day than carry a Cop around with You! A lot of the Gun Grabbers have their own Security Details, often at the Taxpayers Expense. They don't like being asked if their Security Carries Guns! Yet their perfectly happy to Disarm You! That's Dead Wrong.

Techfan
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Techfan 01/25/11 - 08:59 am
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Sideshow: " Techfan, there

Sideshow: " Techfan, there is NOTHING preventing YOU from applying for an FCC license and starting your own radio station."
From the FCC website:
"Heavy Demand for New Broadcast Stations. Potential applicants for radio and television services should be aware that frequencies for these services are always in heavy demand. For example, the Commission received approximately 30,000 inquiries from persons seeking to start radio broadcast stations last year. When application filing window periods open for new stations, many competing applications are filed. Therefore, you should be aware at the outset that the filing of an application does not guarantee that you will receive a broadcast station construction permit. You should also be aware that in many areas of the country, no frequencies may be available on which a new station could commence operating without causing interference to existing stations, in violation of FCC rules. For that reason, we do not recommend that you purchase any equipment before receiving a construction permit from the FCC.
Expansion of the AM or FM radio bands is unlikely to occur in the near future. The FM band is constrained from expanding above 107.9 MHz by the presence of aeronautical operations on 108 MHz to 136 MHz, and is also prevented from expanding below 88.1 MHz by Channel 6 television operations on 82.0 through 88.0 MHz. The AM band was recently expanded from 1600 to 1700 kHz after years of international negotiations, however those frequencies are reserved for existing stations which were causing significant interference in the lower part of the band."

Sideshow Bob
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Sideshow Bob 01/25/11 - 12:39 pm
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techfan...... Have you tried?

techfan...... Have you tried? No. Augusta and Aiken have several unused frequencies, but you would rather quote hypotheticals....as usual, never let facts get in the way.

Sideshow Bob
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Sideshow Bob 01/25/11 - 12:44 pm
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It's much easier, and more in

It's much easier, and more in character for a liberal to expect government to punish a successful company with regulation than to try to compete with them by offering a better product or service. That's why they love the fairness doctrine.

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