He's not all by himself

Did Times Square bomber act alone? Define 'alone'

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News outlets continue to try to create the impression that the Times Square bomber was "acting alone." For some reason, this is an important, perhaps comforting, notion to some reporters.

"The Pakistani-American accused of the failed Times Square car bombing is believed to have been working alone," the Associated Press insisted as recently as Wednesday.

Never mind that authorities were even then investigating whether Muslim Taliban radicals in Pakistan were involved, perhaps in training the chief suspect.

But let's just say for argument's sake that Faisal Shahzad technically worked alone. Does that mean he harbored unique resentments -- maybe, oh, because his Connecticut house was foreclosed on? CNN personality Jim Acosta, in a bizarre bit of empathy for an accused attempted bomber of innocent civilians, noted recently that, "One would have to imagine that (foreclosure) brought a lot of pressure and a lot of heartache on that family."

Over at CBS, reporter Bob Orr, oddly proposing that Shahzad's motive is "unclear," nonetheless speculated that it might be because, even after a year of citizenship, Shahzad "has not realized any American dream."

Think about what that man just said. That CBS reporter said, in essence, that America may have let Shahzad down .

So he just snapped. And obviously, as any one of us would have done, he tried to bomb Times Square.

What planet have these people been reporting on?

The truth is, if Faisal Shahzad is the Times Square bomber, he's not a depressed former homeowner. How many foreclosure victims leave a smoldering, bomb-filled SUV to explode in a busy tourist spot on a Saturday night?

It's most likely he had technical support along the way. But if nothing else, he had the moral support of fellow radicals who have gone before him and will most surely follow him. They may not be co-conspirators, per se, but they're ideological accomplices. They share a kindred spirit, a belief system that says Americans and other Westerners are evil and either need to be converted or exterminated.

Reporters delusional enough to try to sell us fairy-tale nonsense that this bomber, or any other Muslim radical, honed their craft in a lonely vacuum are not only world-class naive, but are hazardous to this nation's security because they're peddling a fiction designed to lower our guard and try to make us feel better. The underlying message of their chronic "lone wolf" fable is that the danger has passed; it wasn't connected to anyone else, after all. Of course, that's just demonstrably untrue.

Meanwhile, you have to wonder if the Obama administration has its guard up sufficiently. Of course, they are loath to use the word "terrorism" to begin with -- and neither Mr. Obama nor press secretary Robert Gibbs could bring themselves to call the Times Square incident "terrorism" at first. Mr. Obama also had implored us not to "jump to conclusions" after Nidal Hasan shouted "God is great!" and killed his comrades at Fort Hood. In the Times Square and Detroit "underwear bomber" cases, the suspects were foiled only through the vigilance of citizens around them. "Luck," to the layman.

And while searching for Shahzad, the government decided not to call airlines and alert them about his addition to the no-fly list. They barely stopped his plane from leaving for Dubai.

Most troubling, after four Muslim attacks on U.S. soil in his first year-plus in office, you've got to wonder if President Obama's entreaties to the Muslim world are making us any safer -- or if we're just less girded for attack.

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KSL
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KSL 05/10/10 - 05:41 pm
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LOL, Tigger. I don't know why

LOL, Tigger. I don't know why it is. But he is.

KSL
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KSL 05/10/10 - 05:42 pm
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It must be the mark of

It must be the mark of excellence. You know, like the Noble Peace Prize. LOL.

JohnRandolphHardisonCain
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JohnRandolphHardisonCain 05/10/10 - 06:16 pm
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Sargebaby has yet to add

Sargebaby has yet to add anything pertinent to the subject at hand.

On Sunday, in response to right-wing pressure, Attorney General Eric Holder says the Obama administration is looking into changes in the law that would limit Miranda rights for terror suspect. That means that American citizens could be picked up on suspicion of involvement in a terrorist attack or planned attack and subjected to harsh interrogation. That "evidence", obtained through the use of torture, could then be used against the suspect in a court of law.

THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE! Nothing is to be gained by torturing terror suspects like the would be Christmas Day airline bomber Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab or the more recent would be Times Square bomber Faisal Shahzad. On the contrary we are told that both men are cooperating with investigators.

It is also worth nothing that both men are highly educated and from prominent families. This should give an indication of how widespread anger at U.S. policies that affect Muslims has now become.

A wise America response would be to investigate why this has happened and not to remain solely intent on punishing would be terrorists and their allies but focus on changing perceptions about this country and our intent in waging multiple, simultaneous wars throughout the Muslim world.

All Americans should be suspicious of changes in U.S. law that limit a suspect's Miranda rights. You or I could be picked up on mere suspicion or by mistake and tortured under possible changes in the law.

KSL
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KSL 05/10/10 - 06:08 pm
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With what you have posted,

With what you have posted, you may just have reason to be worried.

KSL
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KSL 05/10/10 - 06:09 pm
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Cain, you do know that the

Cain, you do know that the new AC site allows paragraphs don't you.

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KSL 05/10/10 - 06:13 pm
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Why are they co-operating,

Why are they co-operating, when others didn't? Maybe because they are highly educated and from prominent families.

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KSL 05/10/10 - 06:21 pm
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Thanks. I may actually read

Thanks.

I may actually read your posts now, skipping the paragraphs I've read before.

Just kidding!

JohnRandolphHardisonCain
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JohnRandolphHardisonCain 05/10/10 - 06:23 pm
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The would be Christmas Day

The would be Christmas Day airline bomber Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab quit talking when he was read his Miranda rights. He became cooperative again after receiving legal counsel. The would be Times Square bomber Faisal Shahzad may be more loquacious by nature. It is important to note that unlike KSM, neither man was tortured or subjected to "harsh interrogation" like waterboarding. Humane treatment works better than the use of torture every time.

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baronvonreich 05/10/10 - 06:38 pm
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Nat the Cat Monday, May 10

Nat the Cat Monday, May 10 2:47 PM It amazes me that people get upset [and call it meddling], because the U.S. protects its interest abroad, especially oil, because our Country would grind to a halt without oil and the Middle East (Muslims) know that.
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What if the Chinese had a presence in America to protect its interest of US coal or the US consumer since both are vital to their economy? Would that be acceptable?

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baronvonreich 05/10/10 - 06:41 pm
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KSL
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KSL 05/10/10 - 06:44 pm
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It probably does work better

It probably does work better with some terrorists than with others.

KSL
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KSL 05/10/10 - 06:46 pm
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You post as if every supposed

You post as if every supposed terrorist picked up and detained has been tortured and/or waterboarded. Do you have proof of that from legitimate and believable sources, Cain? I don't think you do.

KSL
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KSL 05/10/10 - 06:48 pm
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baron, I'm betting they do.

baron, I'm betting they do. They are just not in military uniform. Paid well, though.

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Sargebaby 05/10/10 - 06:52 pm
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There are no real "what if's"

There are no real "what if's" in this case, as the Chinese already have "a presence" of people looking out for their interests!

JohnRandolphHardisonCain
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JohnRandolphHardisonCain 05/10/10 - 06:59 pm
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KSL, the majority of

KSL, the majority of detainees in Guantanamo, Bagram, Kandahar, and at other U.S. run prisons in Iraq, Afghanistan, as well as at CIA black site prisons most certainly were tortured. Miranda rights are read only to those arrested on U.S. soil. That should remain in effect and not be changed. Long time solitary confinement is equivalent to sensory deprivation. It is torture. Terror suspect Jose Padilla suffered brain damage while in captivity.

For the Neanderthals who think I am defending or codding terrorists, this is not the case. I am making the case for humane treatment of all terror suspects as well as protecting the Constitutional rights guaranteed all American citizens.

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corgimom 05/10/10 - 07:26 pm
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"You or I could be picked up

"You or I could be picked up on mere suspicion or by mistake and tortured under possible changes in the law."

Nah, my torture is now, reading some of the lame posts on this blog.

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corgimom 05/10/10 - 07:28 pm
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"Sargebaby, what does it

"Sargebaby, what does it matter whether or not the majority of people posting on the AC Forum or here in Reader Comments agrees with me or not? Does that make them right and me wrong?"

Yes.

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corgimom 05/10/10 - 07:30 pm
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"Many, many, many

"Many, many, many chickenhawks"

Is he talking about pedophiles? That's the only people that I've ever heard of being referred to as chickenhawks. That, and Foghorn Leghorn cartoons with Henery Hawk.

What is he talking about? Somebody help me out.

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JohnRandolphHardisonCain 05/10/10 - 07:47 pm
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From Wapedia: "Chickenhawk"

From Wapedia: "Chickenhawk" (also chicken hawk and chicken-hawk) is a political epithet used in the United States to criticize a politician, bureaucrat, or commentator who strongly supports a war or other military action, yet who actively avoided military service when of age.

http://wapedia.mobi/en/Chickenhawk_%28politics%29

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corgimom 05/10/10 - 07:58 pm
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Well, JRHC, you certainly

Well, JRHC, you certainly would know about the active avoidance part. Oh yeah, that highly reliable source, Wapedia. Got it.

All I know, where I come from, calling some man a chickenhawk could cause serious, serious problems.

And politicians had military deferments- you know, like college students.

JohnRandolphHardisonCain
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JohnRandolphHardisonCain 05/10/10 - 08:23 pm
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I went to college on a

I went to college on a deferment like millions of other Americans. I did not support the Vietnam war, and I do that support the U.S. wars in Iraq or Afghanistan. Therefore I am not a chicken-hawk. You should check out the list of chicken hawks including politicians and right-wing talk show hosts who never served in the military but support all the current wars United States is waging. Sean Hannity and his "Freedom Concerts" come immediately to mind. Sean and Rush Limbaugh make millions promoting war while Americans who are not celebrities die and get wounded in Iraq and Afghanistan. Limbaugh calling Guantanamo Bay Detention Facility "Club Gitmo" is a prime example of chicken-hawk tactics. Making light of torture doesn't sit well with me or with Americans who have been subjected to it. When someone is tortured by American interrogators or under American auspices it turns them into a permanent enemy of United States.

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Pay What U Owe 05/10/10 - 08:40 pm
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Technically JHRC is not a

Technically JHRC is not a chickenhawk in the political sense because he does not advocate what he himself avoids. Were he to avoid service himself and then insist you go, then he would be a chickenhawk. Bush, Cheney and others who avoided Vietnam got all hot and sweaty on sending someone else to basically the same situation (open-ended, unjustified conflict that costs a lot of blood and ultimately produced nothing of consequence). JHRC's correct point is that the B&C freak show would have been a lot more credible if they had actually been willing to serve themselves.

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JohnRandolphHardisonCain 05/10/10 - 09:20 pm
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I think it is incumbent on

I think it is incumbent on those who have experienced the horrors of war to do everything in their power to make war an absolute last resort. Sargebaby doesn't do that. He does everything in his power to disparage the religion of Islam and its prophet Mohammad.

Sargebaby not only thinks that America is superior to Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan, he also thinks that Christianity is a superior religion and that Islam is an inferior religion. It is here that he takes on the characteristic of a crusader, and we all know the fate of crusaders who invade other countries in the name of their religion.

That is why I say that it is not without some justification that many Muslims for all walks of life and from all part of the world are saying "enough" to U.S. aggression. United States should bug out of Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan just like it bugged out of Vietnam. Continuing to wage the wars it is presently prosecuting will only lead United States into a clash of civilization it can never win - just like Vietnam.

The White House today on the event of Hamid Karzai visit to Washington gave an optimistic outlook for Afghanistan. I filed that news report under "Propaganda" beneath that of Gen. Petraeus' claim last week that "big ideas" were the key to U.S. success in the surge in Iraq. Today 102 Iraqis died, the most this year in one day, and more than 350 Iraqis were wounded. Some "success" indeed!

The U.S. war on terror is counterproductive because it creates terrorists. Even ACES recognizes that attacks on the U.S. homeland are increasing. They blame Obama for not having his dukes up. Instead they should point to the escalation of the U.S. war in Afghanistan and the expansion of the U.S. air war and covert ground war in Pakistan as prime causes for terrorist actions against the U.S. homeland.

Yes ACES, there are plenty more Nadal Hasans, Umar Farouk Abdulmutallabs, and Faisal Shahzads. Study them closely. They will tell you what made them commit or attempt to commit terrorist acts.

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KSL 05/10/10 - 09:15 pm
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So you say, Cain. I'm sorry I

So you say, Cain. I'm sorry I haven't had the all day time every day to research sites and people who tell me what I want to believe. If what you say is true, a whole lot of people would be carrying on about it, not just a few lefties like you.

Or, maybe more lefties think it might not have been such a bad idea. Which is it, bud?

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JohnRandolphHardisonCain 05/10/10 - 09:19 pm
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What are you talking about,

What are you talking about, KSL?

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KSL 05/10/10 - 09:21 pm
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corgi, he's met his match.

corgi, he's met his match. You go, girl!

Right, corgi. Some had student deferments while trying to go to school on NROTC scholarships so that when they got out, they had the privilege of being in front, not in behind of the line of fire (based on their major).

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KSL 05/10/10 - 09:24 pm
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You said the most of the

You said the most of the detainees were tortured. Not according to what I have seen.

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Sargebaby 05/10/10 - 09:24 pm
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You bet Sargebaby feels that

You bet Sargebaby feels that way, Cain, and the huge problem with you is, you don't! Now, don't go putting words and assumptions here, that you can't back up, Cain! Sorry my way of life gets under your skin so much, but hey, we all have our crosses to bear! Where's your's?

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Sargebaby 05/10/10 - 09:25 pm
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I told you, KSL, he lies!

I told you, KSL, he lies!

KSL
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KSL 05/10/10 - 09:26 pm
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Torture is relative to some

Torture is relative to some extent. Making Muslim detainees eat bacon, for example, would not be considered torture by me.

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