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gaflyboy
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gaflyboy 08/08/14 - 10:58 pm
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Trick question?

There are plenty of others too: Al-Nusra Front, AQAP, Ansar Al-Sharia, ... Oh, never mind. The list is far too long.

We'll be seeing this one elsewhere! Good job Rick!

dahreese
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dahreese 08/09/14 - 09:23 am
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I've always appreciated Rick
Unpublished

I've always appreciated Rick McKee's artwork.

That said, however, this is just another of AC's daily barrage of propaganda.

The AC editors never seem to have the balls to look at the wrong doings my "christian" country commits against other countries and our own dark and sordid history.

Be that as it is, there are still some "real Christians" in this country who are aware of that dark and sordid history and speak out against it.

I would hate to be the editor who may one day have to account for the AC's propaganda before the Christian god he claims to worship.

alshabrawey
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alshabrawey 08/09/14 - 09:26 am
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Editorial cartoon

AS muslim living in augusta community for last 12 years fortunately, i see this cartoon does not reflect the community i lived and raised my kids in it. It only reflects a sense of hate and ignorance. No one can refer any offensive acts by any groups to a religion, otherwise we may refere killing millions and millions through recent and old history to christianity and judism. Thanks God as muslims we believe that all religions came from the same source with peace regardless the acts of few people who represent themselves and not the majority of muslims, christians or jewish. I wish as much as you look at a tiny dark side within over 2 biilion muslim all over the world including muslims in USA you also should look at the bright side of majority of muslims. I hate to wast my time talking and reminding you by thousands of incidents occured in the name of each religion yet not represent the true religion. No doubt that All Religions, islam, christianity and judism teach us peace and raise the moral values and we are not responsible for stupid acts and offensive cartoons that spread hate within our peaceful community. I urge you to remove this cartoon and find better thing to benefit our small augusta community and our country to talk about instead.

afadel
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afadel 08/09/14 - 09:42 am
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Rick McKee's Bias is Showing Again

Alshabrawey's 10:26 am comment is spot on. I urge people to read Edward Said's book "Covering Islam," which explains why attributing the actions of individuals and groups of Muslims to Islam is incorrect.

http://www.indiebound.org/book/9780679758907

I urge the Augusta Chronicle Editorial Staff to publish editorials advocating for ways to lessen the conflicts which lead to terrible acts of terrorism instead of using these acts of terrorism to promote one side of the US culture wars.

gaflyboy
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gaflyboy 08/09/14 - 10:33 am
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Is this CAIR talking?

Imagine my disappointment seeing that instead of joining us in condemning these “radical” groups, we get references to centuries old acts of Christianity and Judaism. Instead of agreeing that these are indeed savage groups that should be stopped, we get “I urge you to remove this cartoon”.

Before 9/11, I knew little about Islam. Like most people, I wanted to believe that it is a peaceful religion that was hijacked by a very small group to commit horrendous acts. It’s taken me 12 years, but I’ve come to accept that apparently, it is a peaceful religion for a very small group of people. For the rest, it’s counter-condemn and “remove this cartoon”!

Most Americans support our military in defending us, even though only 1% actually do. One has to wonder about most Muslim’s support of these acts of butchery and jihad.

The US is being directly threatened. Our closest ally in the Middle East is under constant direct assault. As Judaism is threatened with extinction, Christianity has almost been eradicated in the region. To say we need to “find better thing” for “our country to talk about” is not the answer.

“Rick McKee's Bias is Showing Again” is absurd. Rick’s facts are undeniable, and if we’re not ALL willing to discuss it, then there’s part of the problem.

Taqiyya anyone?

With all due respect, these comments are not helpful.

AFjoe
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AFjoe 08/09/14 - 12:23 pm
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Nail on head

Rick it the nail square on the head. Why have we not seen any "muslin groups" standing up and condemning their "brothers in arms". These groups are their enemy too, right; or deep down inside do they believe differently and the killing/murdering of others in ok.

aalhendy
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aalhendy 08/09/14 - 03:19 pm
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Bad Big Brush

Dear Sir/Madam,

I hope this message finds you well.

I am a regular reader and a subscriber to your wonderful newspaper “Augusta Chronicle” since I came to Augusta.
This morning, I came across the cartoon on page 6A titled “Current Events Quiz”. As a muslim, I find this cartoon disingenuous, insincere and simply inaccurate. It deceivingly tries to convey the overarching message that Islam is the driver of these various groups, which is not true and indeed naïve. The main driver to these groups are primarily politics, power and interests. In general, we should be very careful to paint a whole religion (and in turn all its followers) with one big ill-informed brush. It is a historical fact that armies from countries that call themselves christian have killed more human beings than any other religion, but I would not doubt that Christianity is a religion of peace. United Nations says that Israel has and continues to kill many innocent civilians, but I would also not doubt that Judaism is a religion of peace. We need to persistently differentiate between the religion and the behavior of few of its followers albeit the latter might be, intentionally or not, more visible in our daily media.

Thank you very much for publishing this letter and for your balanced and objective approach to issues of importance to our society.

Best

Ayman Al-Hendy MD PhD

stuaby
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stuaby 08/09/14 - 03:48 pm
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"The main driver to these

"The main driver to these groups are primarily politics, power and interests."

Are you suggesting, kind sir, that it is purely coincidental that Islam is a part of these groups background?

What are the odds of that happening?

If it were purely coincidental, then why don't we have 250 similar, coordinated groups who behave this way who "just happen" to be Christian, buddist, hindu, etc.? Not 500-1000+ years ago, either, let's deal with what's on our plate right now.

rcpasc48
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rcpasc48 08/09/14 - 03:50 pm
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Muslims

The fact remains that of that 2 Billion there is a percentage that surpasses the population of the USA that want to kill us. Facts are facts and there is a disturbance of some kind in almost every country they live in.
The King of Jordan kicked Ararfat out of Jordan and put a price on his head because Arafat didn't want to play well with Jordanians.
Most Muslims and I bet you included are reluctant to name specifically the ones that give you a bad name. You don't condemn them specifically for doing so and with good reason. You would be subjected to violence. You know it. I know it.
Saying you condemn all violence is not enough to me.. Shame them. Get time on TV and demand they stop.
Muslims in St. Paul, Mn. and other USA communities are calling for Sharia in direct contradiction to our Constitution and I bet you have said nothing. If it was anything it was probably tsk tsk.
I'm for living in peace. You should be condemning those that aren't by calling them by name and doing it loudly. But you don't. I understand.

You may be angry about how the cartoonist depicted your 'peaceful religion" but what I see in the news every single day leads me to believe Mr. McKee is being way too kind.
Do something about your fellow Muslims and Mr. McKee will be out of material to draw about the 'religion of peace. '
Heck you aren't even peaceful with each other. And I am assuming you are Muslim.
Do something!!! And peacefully!!!!
But you won't.

gaflyboy
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gaflyboy 08/09/14 - 04:35 pm
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allhendy - conversation

“It deceivingly tries to convey the overarching message that Islam is the driver of these various groups, which is not true and indeed naïve.”

Without getting into whether these groups follow the true intent of the Quran, it is very true that they believe they are creating another Islamic caliphate (ISIS or ISIL, now simply IS – “Islamic State”) … Some of us are tired of being naïve.

The question is: Are these groups an aberration or are they simply on the front lines of what most Muslims aspire to?

As with the previous two comments, your carefully worded comments don’t do much to allay the concern that it may be the latter.

You say that it’s a “fact that armies from countries that call themselves christian have killed more human beings than any other religion”.

You say (citing the UN) “that Israel has and continues to kill many innocent civilians”.

But of these savage Islamic groups, all you have to say is “The main driver to these groups are primarily politics, power and interests.”

So who’s being “disingenuous, insincere and simply inaccurate”?

The fact that it’s so rare for any Muslim to denounce these groups speaks volumes.

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seenitB4 08/09/14 - 04:45 pm
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So right gaflyboy

The fact that it’s so rare for any Muslim to denounce these groups speaks volumes.

Keep up the good work Rick..l

Darby
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Darby 08/09/14 - 04:51 pm
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To our Muslim friends....

If enough of you were to find your voice and denounce the atrocities committed in the name of Islam every day in every part of the world, then folks like Rick wouldn't feel the need to.

It is YOUR OVERPOWERING SILENCE that demands that others speak up instead.

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cush1944 08/09/14 - 04:55 pm
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"United Nations says that

"United Nations says that Israel has and continues to kill many innocent civilians, but I would also not doubt that Judaism is a religion of peace."
Spoken like a true Muslim.

Darby
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Darby 08/09/14 - 04:57 pm
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"I urge the Augusta Chronicle Editorial Staff

to publish editorials advocating for ways to lessen the conflicts which lead to terrible acts of terrorism instead of using these acts of terrorism to promote one side of the US culture wars."

In plain English - "It's your fault America".

Do something about it! You've been warned!

jdsgirl63
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jdsgirl63 08/09/14 - 05:25 pm
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Time and again I see the

Time and again I see the "peaceful" Muslims finding fault with the rest of the worlds perception of Islam. How about you stop whining about not being portrayed fairly, take your so called "majority of good, peaceful Muslims" and stand up against the animals that are killing for killing's sake every day in the name of Allah??

Maybe then, just maybe, you'll find more people inclined to believe you. In the meantime, your deafening silence leads us to believe that you either silently agree with these terrorist animals or you're cowards who would rather attack the truth because it's safer for you than telling the truth!

I'm tired of the rhetoric. Put up or shut up. You can't have it both ways.

rcpasc48
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rcpasc48 08/09/14 - 06:00 pm
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Thomas Jefferson had a Koran.

Thomas Jefferson had a Koran. I believe it is still stored at the White House. It was used recently to swear in a congressman.
Does anyone here know why Jefferson had a Koran?
Have you ever heard of the Barbary Pirates and what they were doing to the men and ships of the newly formed USA?
Guess what? Guess who? Way back then we had trouble out of them.
To fight an enemy you must know your enemy hence Jefferson's Koran.
Is this what Obama meant when he said Muslims were the fabric with which this nation was formed?
Ya'll all remember when the Pilgrims, Native Americans and the Muslims faced Mecca and gave thanks for their bounty at the first Thanksgiving doncha?

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burninater 08/09/14 - 07:39 pm
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Darby, regarding your 5:57,

Darby, regarding your 5:57, expressions of the ACES like this cartoon represent America in the same way that Radical Islamists represent the Islamic religion:

That is, only through the deranged and distorted lens of a personal and political megalomania.

And it is militarism, not Islam that contributes to the reprehensible violence of the groups in this cartoon.

Jihadists are estimated to encompass a fraction of a percent of the global Muslim population. Claiming all Muslims are violent warmongers because of the action of a superminority is as reasonable as claiming all right wing activists want to murder police officers, put Gadsden and Nazi flags on the bodies, and then shoot themselves in a Wal-Mart.

JBlack
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JBlack 08/09/14 - 07:58 pm
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I'll give you another quiz

Hold your horses people, Joan Rivers just declared that Palestinians deserved to die and I didn't see Christian Priests issuing statements that she did not represent true Christianity.

Now let me give you another quiz:
Q. Who created the taliban, from which came Al-Qaida?
A. US Special forces during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan as a pay back for Soviet support of the Viet Cong.

Q. Who supported Saddam Hussein with intelligence and weapons to become the brutal dictator he was?
A. The Reagan Administration

Q. Name the only country that currently occupy lands of other countries
A. Israel

Q. Name the longest lasting refugee problem in history
A. The Palestinian problem

Q. Name one country that has laws discriminating between its citizens on the basis of religion.
A. Israel

Q. What city has the highest population density in the World and has been under total siege for almost a decade?
A. Gaze

You want to single out religion as a cause of violence? I have a theory for you to consider for a minute:

Three days after Katrina hit New Orleans, the city had the highest crime rate in the Nation. The whole city became unsafe. There are countries in the Middle East that have been 4 years without effective police presence. Crime increased, yes, but life remained normal for the most part. Wonder why? because of Islam preventing people from doing what "needs to be done" to survive. I agree with you that Muslim Countries are among the most troubled but I believe the only reason why the vast majority of people there can still maintain their humanity and morality is Islam.

There's as many Muslims in the US as there is Jews. Where do you think you'd find those Muslims? In prison? In gangs? forming some kind of a Muslim "mob"? No. They are doctors, nurses, teachers, engineers, taxi drivers, business owners, etc. If you really have to single them out and study them, you'll find that they are one of the most hard-working ethnic groups in the US, admired and respected by all who come in contact with them. They are run of the mill Americans. Even though they come from over fifty different backgrounds, they have one thing in common: Islam. You can continue your insults now.

gaflyboy
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gaflyboy 08/09/14 - 08:24 pm
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Joan Rivers ...

made a vile, disgusting statement about Palestinians, which does not reflect, in any way, a loving or compassionate Christian or Jewish belief!

Your turn JBlack.

gargoyle
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gargoyle 08/09/14 - 08:24 pm
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The question is would a

The question is would a Christian be welcome as taxi drivers doctors and business owners in county with a muslim controlled government JBlack .

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 08/09/14 - 10:21 pm
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Swing, and a miss

JBlack posted:

Q. Name the only country that currently occupy lands of other countries?
A. Israel

Sorry, but that dog does not hunt. Israel does not occupy lands of other countries. Israel conquered those lands in the 1967 war. When you conquer territory and defend it and hold on to it, those lands are legitimately yours. Conquering territory is what war is all about.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 08/09/14 - 10:24 pm
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Strike Two

JBlack posted:

Q. Name one country that has laws discriminating between its citizens on the basis of religion.
A. Israel

How about Saudi Arabia?

Darby
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Darby 08/09/14 - 10:52 pm
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Burn -

You at least had my interest (normally I just skim over your rants) until you got to the "Claiming all Muslims are violent warmongers.... " bit.

Who said that? Is that you taking editorial license, or just you being completely off track as is your custom?

My views are accurately reflected in my 5:51 pm post. (Does anyone read that as even vaguely suggesting that "all Muslims are violent....")?

I won't ask for an acknowledgement because I know that you are far too intractable to take such action. But I did want to point out to anyone else reading these posts that you got it wrong.

Shooting from the hip....

AGAIN!

Darby
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Darby 08/09/14 - 11:01 pm
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Lamb - You might

have mentioned that it's not for a lack of trying that Egypt, Jordan, Syria, et al., don't currently occupy Israel.

Of course, then it wouldn't be Israel anymore would it?

burninater
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burninater 08/10/14 - 12:17 am
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You are absolutely correct

You are absolutely correct Darby, when I feel like someone is perpetuating a gross lie, I am intractable.

This cartoon clearly imputes that brutal, murderous terrorism is a function of Islam. It follows, if this cartoon's claim is to be taken as true, that if one follows Islam, one's function must be perpetrating, or being in support of, murderous terrorism. Otherwise, the unitary factor in brutal, murderous terrorism is NOT Islam, and what this cartoon is imputing is a bald-faced lie.

You can't have it both ways, as your post attempts to do.

JBlack
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JBlack 08/10/14 - 07:36 am
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Little Lamb- You're correct

Little Lamb- You're correct except that there is in fact an international law. Yes, laws do exist and the occupation is in fact illegal. Otherwise, why do we mind if Russia occupies the Ukraine? Or China Taiwan? They can certainly defend these territories. If you're against middle age rules please be consistent.

Also, I'm not sure SA has such laws but say it does. you just equalled Israel with Saudi Arabia. Again, why do you accept discrimination from one and not the other? They are equally wrong don't you think?

Will a Christian or Jewish worker be allowed to live in peace in a Muslim country? Seriously? Yes, like for over a thousand years. Like the jews have only escaped the persecution of Europe only 70 years ago or so? Guess were they were welcomed throughout these centuries. In Muslim countries were they lived as equal citizens. In fact, "Muslim" countries continued to have non-muslim majority for many centuries. I'll tell you even more, these groups are hijacking Islam. period. Part of the struggle in the middle east is because the majority is trying to gain back their true religion. But we're not making it easy for them are we with our munition falling on their heads day and night.

Gaflyboy. Thank you for your statement but neither you or I is a priest speaking for the church/Islam. Did you hear the holy Roman archbishop apologizing for Hitler's crimes? I certainly didn't. But an average Catholic would and did just didn't feel the need to be defensive all the time and explain his innocence to every person he/she talks to. I detest the crimes committed by groups in the cartoons. Most of them killed more Muslims than from other religions. Most are not more than gangs and some are militia (yes like the ones we allow in our own constitution) driven into what they do by decades of unspeakable atrocities committed against their people. Do you really follow what's happening in Syria, Iraq, and Egypt? In one day a US-backed dictator would kill more Muslims than 911. Let alone the humiliation, injustice, and human rights abuse that is worse than killing. My opinion is that the only reason the vast majority of people stay sane, let alone live a normal life, is because they are disciplined by a strong moral code. Some of them just snap. Do I accept it, no. Can I understand it, may be. but who am I to judge anyway.

Finally, how many of you personally know a violent Muslim? Well if Islam was a violent religion don't you think an average mosque-going Muslim would be violent as a matter of piety? Try the falafel it's heavenly.

Darby
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Darby 08/10/14 - 06:10 pm
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Thanks for proving my point to ANY

rational person Burn. Neither I nor even Rick's trenchant depiction even suggested that "....all Muslims are violent warmongers.... "

I'd ask you to go back and review the cartoon AND my posts, but I know you are much too busy for that and then the truth isn't REALLY that important to you is it?

I urged "moderate" Muslims to speak out against atrocities and Rick pointed out that all Muslim terrorists claim an affiliation with Islam. (Do you know of even ONE that doesn't?) (Just one, Burn, just one.)

Better that you make your point (as corrupt and phony as it is) than get bogged down in all that veritas, right?

jomojo
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jomojo 08/11/14 - 09:35 am
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Israel Used Palestinian Civilians as Human Shields

According to the Israeli High Court of Justice, the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) used Palestinian civilians as human shields for more than two decades - over 1,200 times between 2000 and 2005 alone.

"High Court rules that ‘human shield’ and ‘early warning’ procedures used by IDF to apprehend terrorists are illegal; Mofaz intends to use democratic means to review the issue"
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3154142,00.html

"The “Neighbor Procedure”: Israel’s Use of Palestinian Human Shields"
http://imeu.org/article/the-neighbor-procedure-israels-use-of-palestinia...

"Israeli high court bans military use of Palestinians as human shields"
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/oct/07/israel

After numerous complaints, the court banned the original procedure in 2003 but approved a new one that was essentially the same except it required the "consent" of the civilian. Again after numerous complaints the court banned this as well. Yet the practice continued and in 2007 a 14-year-old girl in Gaza was shot in the stomach and leg after soldiers used her as a human shield during an incursion, one of 14 cases included in a report that year.

In October 2010, an Israeli military court convicted two soldiers of using a 10-year-old Palestinian boy as a human shield. In May 2011, two dozen former Israeli soldiers came forward to provide eyewitness accounts of the abuse of Palestinian civilians by the Israeli military, including their use as human shields.

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