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Thursday, Nov. 21, 2013 5:36 PM
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Two protests have been scheduled in response to a Humane Society investigation that found questionable practices in a Georgia Regents University dental implant experiment on dogs.

Both aim to raise awareness on unnecessary animal testing, specifically for cosmetic purposes, and to push GRU to discontinue the practice.

The first will be held 11 a.m. Friday at the corner of Laney-Walker Boulevard and 15th Street, and is organized primarily by the local group Helping Animal Rights Through Education, or HART.

HART member Kane Taylor, 25, said using animals for research on dental implants is unjustifiable because there are already implants approved by the Food and Drug Administration available for patients.

“It seems almost silly the way they are going about this,” Taylor said. “Sadly this has gotten a lot of people riled up because it’s dogs, but this happens too often.”

A second protest scheduled for Dec. 7 is being called “The Million Dog Walk on GRU Dental.”

Organizer Dennis Briatico, 36, said the march will begin at 11th and Broad Streets at 10 a.m. and continue on to the GRU dental school.

Briatico is urging as many people as possible to bring their leashed dogs on the march and to make a “peaceful statement.” He said support has been rallied through social media, and about 7,000 have been invited on Facebook.

“I am not a radical (animal rights activist), and I’m not even against animal testing, but it was inhumane in this case what they did,” Briatico said. “My main issue is this is something that’s been cleared already and they are still testing.”

The Humane Society of the United States investigation released Wednesday showed GRU purchased six hound dogs from a dealer who has been repeatedly cited by the United States Department of Agriculture and is currently under investigation for violating the Animal Welfare Act.

The investigation also questioned whether GRU received proper approval to conduct these dental implant experiments. The animal rights group filed a public records request for the required protocol, which involves getting an experiment approved by an internal committee.

The first protocol provided by GRU was outdated, and the second showed researchers did not take the required step of looking for alternative methods without using animals until after the experiment was completed and the dogs were euthanized.

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Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 11/21/13 - 06:58 pm
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Genus

Would it be okay if they were doing research on armadillos?

Dixieman
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Dixieman 11/21/13 - 07:16 pm
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Yeah, right

I really expect to see 1,000,000 dogs marching in Augusta.
Likely to be nothing more than a small bunch of fanatics and their tiny yappy pets.
This is valuable research and benefits humans. Concern here is misguided.

gargoyle
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gargoyle 11/21/13 - 07:34 pm
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If only we had this type of

If only we had this type of outrage at what happens at VA hospitals and homes for the elderly.

restguy
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restguy 11/21/13 - 08:08 pm
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Dixie read gargoyles

Dixie read gargoyles comment...

Fiat_Lux
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Fiat_Lux 11/21/13 - 08:53 pm
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The shallowness of this is riveting

You simply have to wonder marvel at the moral confusion and relentless obtuseness of people who will happily get out and protest the humane use of dogs in research that will help human beings and other animals, yet they wouldn't lift a finger to help a homeless veteran or even to protest the ripping apart of unborn baby humans as they are torn from their mother's wombs.

Pretty disgusting.

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rebellious 11/22/13 - 12:41 am
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Really???

A Million Dog March? If they walk across the Butt Bridge, would the combined vibrational frequency cause the bridge to disintegrate?

Let the sillyness begin.

One small step for canines, one giant leap for mankind.

Four Million Paws for One cause

And after the March, let's all go eat murdered chicken and ground up cow meat.

Anyone remember Superman's Bizarro World alter ego? Have we dimensionally warped through some wormhole into such?

WalterBradfordCannon
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WalterBradfordCannon 11/22/13 - 06:56 am
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There are a number of FACTUAL

There are a number of FACTUAL ERRORS in this article by Tracy McManus. The first error is that the research is cosmetic and dental. It is not cosmetic, and is maxillofacial. Head and neck cancer patients benefit from this research, as do those with temporomandibular joint disorders, and trauma to the face. The second FACTUAL ERROR is that there were questionable practices in place. There has been no finding of fact and no allegation of any violation of animal welfare guidelines, statutes, or laws by the researchers at GRU.

InChristLove
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InChristLove 11/22/13 - 07:04 am
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I don't actually know much

I don't actually know much about this other than what was published in the article yesterday, it didn't seem to humane to me to kill all the dogs after the research and if implants are already approved, why was the research done?

seenitB4
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seenitB4 11/22/13 - 07:26 am
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Armadillos & possums

I'm ok with that...use them why doncha!!

WalterBradfordCannon
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WalterBradfordCannon 11/22/13 - 08:06 am
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In some cases it is necessary

In some cases it is necessary to test already approved implants as control subjects for comparison against new types of bone implants. I don't know if any already approved implants were used in these studies. It is costly (on a number of levels) to test things redundantly, so it is rarely done unless there is a compelling scientific rationale. Each study of this class is performed to test some new type of implant. Research money is TIGHT, it makes no sense to perform a test if you are already confident in the answer. Getting new answers is why research is performed.

As to questioning whether it is humane to euthanize them after study, there is one compelling issue. All these dogs would have been euthanized months earlier if they were not selected for study. The state of Georgia is chock full of dogs in shelters that are euthanized daily. There are WAY more dogs than homes. Loose dogs are killed in our society, period. There are ways you can contribute to change, by working on modifying spay/neuter laws and donating to kill-free shelters, but it is SUCH an uphill battle.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 11/22/13 - 08:26 am
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Why not protest something

Why not protest something meaningful like Obamacare?

CabisKhan
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CabisKhan 11/22/13 - 09:14 am
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Dog and Student

I have often witnessed the care and concern for the animals post "surgical learning procedures" and their recovery between the med students and their assigned animals. It is not as inhumane as one might think.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 11/22/13 - 09:40 am
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Armadillos carry leprosy and

Armadillos carry leprosy and possums are marsupials and not placental mammals. Because we now have the Dog genome they will be used more and more to study disease. I guarantee research dogs are better kept than chickens, cattle or hogs that we consume. So when they find all the accusations are unfounded are all the protestors going to apologize for being premature justice vigilantes.

Dudeness
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Dudeness 11/22/13 - 09:55 am
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The solution appears to be

The solution appears to be for GRU to form an SEC football team and then all of this negative attention would just go away. UGA conducts research using dogs, cats, horses, birds, ferrets...far more animals than GRU does.

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Stunned 2 11/22/13 - 10:20 am
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Whoa..Didn't we anticipate this gibber yesterday from WalterBadC

Whoa..Didn't we anticipate this gibber yesterday from WalterBadCannon? Give us percentages of how many of those Dentists in Training that have slaughtered these dogs have gone on to do reconstructive surgery and how many train to 'Pad ' their own pockets for cosmetic surgery. And, as for your other excuse....The CSRA is already suffering because the same incompetence of government officials (State of GA)that you are representing/trying to cover-up for forced our largest CSRA No-Kill shelter into not operating for a Year. Again, I'm asking you...If this research should benefit humans..why are these dogs so brutally manned and then euthanized? What is the ultimate goal of your research - are you going to butcher humans with no study of after care?

Bizkit
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Bizkit 11/22/13 - 10:55 am
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It isn't "cosmetic surgery"

It isn't "cosmetic surgery" that's just ignorant. If you lose a tooth, then if you do nothing then you will lose all your teeth in due time-and you are at greater risk for a heart attack. You can buy a prosthesis or dental implant and studies indicate they are safe and patients are happier with a better lifestyle. It isn't cosmetic-its eating without your dentures falling out. The implants are based on old technology and one of the professors at GRU studies bone morphogenic protein and how it controls bone and cartilage growth and dental implants. Rather than a titanium root biomaterials that will be absorbed and become bone so the tooth is part living is a goal. If they could regenerate the peridontal ligament then you would be able to "sense" your false teeth just like they are real. But no who needs science and progress and replacing lost teeth with something close to real. Dental health is linked to all your health.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 11/22/13 - 11:00 am
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Rather than dogs use all the

Rather than dogs use all the adults who get freebies by Obamacares expanded Medicaid. That way since we are footing their health with no return we get a little return by them being guinea pigs for dental implants. They have plenty of time to heal, no responsibilities, no need for cosmetic appearances-the perfect experimental pool. Much more humane than dogs-the perfect solution. Everybody needs to be willing to sacrifice=their way of being patriotic since they can't pay extravagant taxes.

getitright84
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getitright84 11/22/13 - 11:05 am
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Eat more chikin. ;)

Eat more chikin. ;)

Stunned 2
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Stunned 2 11/22/13 - 11:13 am
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This is a clear example of the Gov't wasting our hard-earned $$!

This is a clear example of the Gov't wasting our hard-earned $$! One month the Incompetent Government officials close our largest No-kill shelter down, telling us that they don't appreciate all the donations & volunteers that unselfishly dedicated their lives to a safer & healthier community, NOW - a few months later THEY get caught in illegal practices and provide us with What?ABADCannon, as their spokesperson, and tell us to 'Donate to No-Kill Shelters while we illegally waste away the money that we suck out of you for taxes'. The Government Officials need to get their ACT TOGETHER!! You did not appreciate what was done in the past. You are taking too much of our money!! Coordinate, Plan. Talk to the Dept of Agriculture...and, find out why they don't need public volunteers.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 11/22/13 - 11:16 am
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Vegan

Rebellious's comment got me wondering. If a vegetarian or vegan has a dog for a pet, does the dog get to eat meat? It seems kind of cruel if a vegetarian dog owner feeds his dog only vegetarian fare.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 11/22/13 - 11:33 am
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Growing up during the 60s It

Growing up during the 60s It took care of kennels for show dog breeds and hunting dog breeds for hunting quail, ducks,coons, hogs, and deer. It was a common practice to kill offspring with undesireable traits. Dog breeds were created by selective breeding and killing-they didn't want bad genetics to risk the breed. All dogs are descended from an extinct species of Eastern Europe grey wolf that we "domesticated"and started artificial selection to generate breeds-says the latest edition of Science,

Fiat_Lux
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Fiat_Lux 11/22/13 - 11:35 am
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@Stunned2

You really should get out and go see for yourself what actually is going on. You're just gushing emotion and your screech here is so off base that it's hard to think of you as having much insight into this issue or the others you appear to touch upon.

Your cred disappeared, for me anyway, the minute you called WalterBradfordCannon's comments "gibber" (did you really mean "gibberish"?), and demanded that he "...[g]ive us percentages of how many of those Dentists in Training that have slaughtered these dogs have gone on to do reconstructive surgery and how many train to 'Pad ' their own pockets for cosmetic surgery" [sic].

Seriously, dude?

It's a recognized and common tactic of the lefty libs to attack people with whom they disagree and then demand capricious and totally unrealistic kinds of "proofs". Hogwash.

If you think a lot of dentists are just money grubbers who shamelessly exploit poor, defenseless people who happen to have fur, then look that kind of data up for yourself. And report back to us, why don't you.

BTW, congratulations on the excellent moniker you picked out for yourself. I believe it fits.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 11/22/13 - 11:43 am
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Research

From the story:

Kane Taylor, 25, said using animals for research on dental implants is unjustifiable because there are already implants approved by the Food and Drug Administration available for patients.

Well, we already have drugs approved by the FDA. Should they stop all future research because things are good enough today? This Kane Taylor dude doesn't understand research. The researchers keep searching for better materials, better techniques.

And why do you suppose that reporter Tracey McManus found it important to tell us how old Kane Taylor is?

Bizkit
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Bizkit 11/22/13 - 11:54 am
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The can live in caves with

The can live in caves with their dogs. Funny all dogs universal ancestor, a grey wolf, would eat any of us. Dogs kill and some even eat their owners every year.

Stunned 2
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Stunned 2 11/22/13 - 11:54 am
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Not a left lib, here, Flat Lux, Your name fits you also.

'gibber' : (definition) speak rapidly and unintelligibly, typically through fear or shock.
and, I'm interested in safe Health procedures for all. All surgeries are painful. I can't believe that a person would choose a surgery that results in the patient having their jaw sawed off and then the patient is thrown into a garbage bag to be incinerated as after-care, over other dental options. Hey, skip my posts if you are hearing screeching and see hogwash. I'm in it for the long haul

Fiat_Lux
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Fiat_Lux 11/22/13 - 12:19 pm
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Yeah, my name does fit, and...

Regarding "gibber", it's a verb. Not to split hairs, but when used as a noun, which you did, it is "gibberish".

The rest of your comment just above didn't really make any sense to me, apart from the invitation to skip your comments and your being in it for the long haul.

You comments are just kind of all over the place and they are so impassioned that it can be a challenge to treat them seriously.

WalterBradfordCannon
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WalterBradfordCannon 11/22/13 - 12:29 pm
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@Stunned2, you clearly do not

@Stunned2, you clearly do not understand. No dentists-in-training were involved in any dog procedures, and no dogs are used in educational training of medical or dental students. Hopefully you are out at Laney Walker and 15th St right now with the other 5 protesters.

Stunned 2
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Stunned 2 11/22/13 - 12:33 pm
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I have a lot of passion for this, as others do also.

Oh, so you looked it up. And a verb fits. Are you in the habit of trying to grammatically correct EVERY post on the AC? That should keep you very busy. We are of opposing views on this issue. It appears to me that there are better alternatives. (I should have spelled 'there' as they're or their - to help you out with you mission)

Stunned 2
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Stunned 2 11/22/13 - 12:59 pm
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So, if you are not training Dentists, what's the use?

So, if you are not training Dentists, what's the use of these experiments? and, Why are you encouraging by suggestion that I join protesters today? Some of us have to work, or get ready for work & make money to pay taxes - so that Fine establishments, such as Georgia's Medical & Dental School can financially operate. I have been a volunteer at your facility, when it operated under a different name. These experiments appear even more useless, if no one is going to be able to receive training & benefit from these procedures.
P.S. It's not the number of protesters that are using their own time that is of interest to us - the taxpayers - It's the number of employees & managers on the Government payroll that are wasting our time & money WATCHING the protesters.

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Dixieman 11/22/13 - 08:20 pm
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I would actually go watch this protest...

...if the Humane Society vigilantes would join forces with the gay Human Rights Campaign fascists (see, they have similar names already!) who criticized Augusta for being gay unfriendly as reported elsewhere in the AC. Their joint protest would be very entertaining. I would definitely go to see a million gay dogs parading (prancing?) down Broad Street. I have some old jeans in the back of my closet (oops, unintentional pun) that I could wear and which I would not miss if I were...um...attacked?...savaged?...assaulted?...by the gay dog marchers (is the protest on "Hump Day"?. All they need now is a marching band!

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