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Vogtle reactor shutdown reported

Monday, Oct. 21, 2013 8:46 AM
Last updated Wednesday, Oct. 23, 2013 10:54 AM
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One of Plant Vogtle’s reactors was shut down Saturday after a malfunction.

According to a Nuclear Regulatory Commission notification issued Saturday, Unit 2 was at full power when the turbine tripped, causing an automatic reactor trip. Control rods were fully inserted, and nothing unusual was noted.

The unit is stable and at normal operating temperature and pressure. A forced outage response team has been formed to determine the cause of the turbine trip and determine restart criteria and time of restart.

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nocnoc
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nocnoc 10/21/13 - 08:54 am
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MAJOR QUESTION

Why the 2 day delay in informing the public?

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 10/21/13 - 08:57 am
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No problem

Because “control rods were fully inserted and nothing unusual was noted.” You don’t have to stop the presses when everything is under control.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 10/21/13 - 09:09 am
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Why would you expect an
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Why would you expect an earlier notification. Would you have reacted any differently to a non-event if you had known 2 days earlier? A reactor SCRAM is not really that uncommon.

nocnoc
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nocnoc 10/21/13 - 09:18 am
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Agreed LL,

But I did not hear 1 word on the NEWS about the shutdown until this morning.

When a person lives about 20 miles downwind from a potential Chernobyl and can see the Cooling Tower steam clouds from Bush Field. They tend to want more timely information.

ColdBeerBoiledPeanuts
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ColdBeerBoiledPeanuts 10/21/13 - 09:51 am
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Information

A-There was no reactor scram, re read the article.
B- Potential Chernobyl? The safety systems built into US nuclear plants outnumber what was at Chernobyl 3 to 1
C- Why create a Chicken Little scenario when there is no need. Too many notifications cause people to become complacent when there may be a real event. Just look at hurricane evacuations for example!!

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 10/21/13 - 09:55 am
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No scram? Are you
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No scram? Are you sure....what would you call an "automatic reactor trip" where all rods are fully inserted?

ColdBeerBoiledPeanuts
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ColdBeerBoiledPeanuts 10/21/13 - 09:59 am
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Scram

You may want to check the definition of scram versus trip!

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 10/21/13 - 10:01 am
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SCRAM: An automatic trip
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SCRAM: An automatic trip where all control rods are inserted via spring power or gravity.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 10/21/13 - 10:01 am
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Tell us what happened when
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Tell us what happened when the trip occured.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 10/21/13 - 10:30 am
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Synonyms

SCRAM and trip are synonyms.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 10/21/13 - 10:36 am
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I know that Little Lamb. A
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I know that Little Lamb. A SCRAM is a trip in which all rods are inserted fully....as apposed to a cutback which is a trip in which all rods are DRIVEN in partially.

dichotomy
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dichotomy 10/21/13 - 10:36 am
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And yeh yeh, we

And yeh yeh, we know...."There was no danger to the public".

blues550
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blues550 10/21/13 - 10:43 am
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It's All Funny
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It's all funny until the neighbors start turning to the color of glow!!!!

Get over it folks, Vogtle is super safe.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 10/21/13 - 10:53 am
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What danger would their be if
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What danger would their be if all of the safety interlocks functioned, which apparently did?

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 10/21/13 - 10:55 am
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The turbin is the normal
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The turbine is the normal means of heat removal. When it tripped off line, the reactor tripped off line (SCRAM), and the aux feed pumps came on to remove the heat that the turbine was no longer removing......no danger to the public. It's not nuclear science. :-)

Riverman1
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Riverman1 10/21/13 - 12:02 pm
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What's the use of living by a

What's the use of living by a reactor if you can't have a little excitement now and then?

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 10/21/13 - 12:06 pm
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Guess how many people were
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Guess how many people were injured or killed by the reactor meltdowns in Japan.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 10/21/13 - 02:55 pm
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Lifetime

You have to wait a lifetime to find out how many were killed.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 10/21/13 - 03:12 pm
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I can see the headlines now.
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I can see the headlines now. "97 year old man dies due to radiation exposure at Fukishima."

burninater
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burninater 10/21/13 - 03:23 pm
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You have to wait a lifetime

You have to wait a lifetime to find out how many were killed.
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In addition to that, 88,000 permanent residents were displaced from the area. Most now live in temp housing or rentals. Almost half of these displaced are 50 or older. Of those formerly employed full-time, only 56% are currently employed full-time. There are areas that are estimated to be uninhabitable for the next 30 years. The economic costs stemming from the Fukushima accident are estimated between $200 - $500 billion.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/12/06/world/asia/Conditions-at-F...

http://www.psr.org/environment-and-health/environmental-health-policy-in...

I sincerely hope the assertion of minimal immediate fatalities was not an attempt to minimize how devastating the Fukushima meltdowns are to that region and its residents.

dwb619
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dwb619 10/21/13 - 03:31 pm
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SCRAM (Safety Control Rod Axe Man) or "trip"

I could care less what you call it.
However, if one is in the area between turbine building and containment, you would really like just a LITTLE warning!

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 10/21/13 - 03:31 pm
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No doubt, Burn...but isn't it
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No doubt, Burn...but isn't it interesting how the the problems with the reactors has nearly completely overshadowed the loss of life from the earthquake and tsunami? Fear of the unknown is a powerful thing.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 10/21/13 - 03:32 pm
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"However, if one is in the
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"However, if one is in the area between turbine building and containment, you would really like just a LITTLE warning!"

There ARE alarms that go off.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 10/21/13 - 03:43 pm
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Aware

Believe me, DWB, the people walking between the turbine building and reactor containment building knew about the trip within seconds when the steam safety relief valves lifted.

dwb619
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dwb619 10/21/13 - 04:38 pm
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Lamb

Exactly. I've been in one or two. The only alarm we got outside the building was the ARV"s lifting and the MSIV's shaking the power block when they seated!

Radwaste
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Radwaste 10/21/13 - 06:34 pm
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Chernobyl

If you try to draw a parallel between what happened at Cherobyl and any American plant, you immediately identify yourself as an easily panicked tool of American popular media.

All reactors are not the same. When you know what alpha-T is, then you will understand.

soapy_725
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soapy_725 10/21/13 - 06:39 pm
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There is never a danger to the public because they don't matter.
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The greater good is served by nuclear energy. That is why we build them over natural fault line in the earth. The planners, envisioned pumping waste down into the "bowels of the earth" in 1940. Look at your map. Look at the topography of every nuclear plant in America. Heck, we can't vent it into the atmosphere. Or can we? We have been doing a little at the time for seventy years and no "mutants" reported to date.

soapy_725
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soapy_725 10/21/13 - 06:41 pm
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The experts have been trained by the "willfully uniformed".
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The experts have been trained by the "willfully uniformed".

soapy_725
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soapy_725 10/21/13 - 06:46 pm
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Nuclear science has been around say 2000 half life years.
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Test explosions yields three and four times the devastation expected. No one knows for certain what a totally uncontrolled meltdown looks like. Science is examining evidence. No examining theories, and I sure hope so's. Homer Simpson

Gage Creed
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Gage Creed 10/21/13 - 07:26 pm
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I just carry some yellow and

I just carry some yellow and magenta rope with me... in the event of a radiological incident... I set up a small perimeter using the yellow and magenta rope and am completely safe!

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