Discussion of Zimmerman verdict planned at church

Monday, July 15, 2013 6:15 PM
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A forum to discuss the George Zimmerman trial verdict in Florida will be held at 2 p.m. Saturday at Williams Memorial CME Church, 1630 15th St., church officials said.

A Trayvon Martin After-the-Verdict Stand-In is scheduled for noon at the courthouse on James Brown Boulevard at Walton Way.

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soapy_725
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soapy_725 07/15/13 - 06:35 pm
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How bout a discussion of the 100 black teens killed in Chicago?
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How bout a discussion of the 100 black teens killed in Chicago?

Just My Opinion
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Just My Opinion 07/15/13 - 07:03 pm
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Tell me what good will come

Tell me what good will come out of these meetings? We all know that they are only being organized by the racist hate-groups to perpetuate animosity and discord. That's it. These organizers do not care about harmony. And I'll go a step farther and that is to include the media in the circus atmosphere that they helped to create around this trial. People need to take a step back and see how the public is being manipulated into the the continuance of racism. The "white man" isn't the problem that the media and the black power-brokers are making you think.
I wish I could provide the link, but Neil Boortz wrote an article just recently that would interest and educate ALL readers about this case.

griff6035
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griff6035 07/15/13 - 09:20 pm
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Protests

They have their walking orders from race instigators Sharpton and Jackson.

Fiat_Lux
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Fiat_Lux 07/15/13 - 09:57 pm
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They don't want justice

They want their audience to continue being the pets of the government in exchange for their uninformed votes. Some of them depend on keeping racism alive for their very living, as well as to feel important.

Lots of pseudos on tap who won't talk at all about the real cause for this verdict, much less address the real reason Trayvon Martin caused himself to assume ambient temperature. They won't dare even look at this incident with a bit of objectivity, not when there are embers of race hatred to fan into flames.

One has to wonder what exactly they hope to gain, especially given that when there is violence, it's usually black neighborhoods and businesses in those neighborhoods that get trashed, which just makes it harder on everybody there to shop for what they need.

As sad as this whole mess was, the truth is that people are just sick and tired of the never-ending whine from the great gaping maw devouring our way of life. Everybody who does what normal, responsible people do is ready for the people who have been given every chance to pursue and gain the American dream to finally shut up and do what is necessary to get it.

InChristLove
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InChristLove 07/15/13 - 09:51 pm
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It is truly sad that the

It is truly sad that the church is promoting violence and dissension instead of promoting healing and prayer.

JggrNAUT
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JggrNAUT 07/15/13 - 09:54 pm
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So, you previous commenters already know the agenda of the discussion? Maybe it could be a discussion of how to teach young African-American males what to do to avoid potential conflict with law enforcement. Maybe there will be a discussion of how to not look suspicious and avoid potential profiling.

The discussion is at a church, so maybe it's a discussion to pray for our leaders (ALL) and law enforcement so that a tragedy like this can be avoided in the future. Maybe it's to pray for the black community, to ensure that families can come together to raise young men in the way they should go so they won't depart from the paths of righteousness.

You are pre-judging what may happen based on you own fears. At least try and be optimistic and try offering up some prayers yourself that that WILL BE the agenda.....

InChristLove
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InChristLove 07/15/13 - 09:58 pm
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JggrNaut, "A Trayvon Martin

JggrNaut, "A Trayvon Martin After-the-Verdict Stand-In is scheduled for noon"

If this was a case of the church wanting to educated our young black men or to pray for the black community, then no "Trayvon Martin After-the-Verdit Stand-In" would be necessary.

InChristLove
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InChristLove 07/15/13 - 10:00 pm
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"A forum to discuss the

"A forum to discuss the George Zimmerman trial verdict in Florida "

It says the forum is to discuss the Zimmerman trial verdict, not a forum to discuss raising up respectable young black men, not a forum to discuss protecting our children......

Fiat_Lux
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Fiat_Lux 07/15/13 - 10:00 pm
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I hope you're right, JggrNAUT.

I really and truly do. I'm afraid I just don't have much faith that it will be much different than what is going on around the rest of the country. Why should we expect it would be?

JggrNAUT
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JggrNAUT 07/15/13 - 10:06 pm
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Really?

So now you're going to attempt to dictate what the stand-in should be about and what is necessary? Your prognostication abilities must be phenomenal! In actuality, neither you or I fully understand what will take place at this meeting.

As I stated before, maybe prayer would be the best course of action instead of fear.

JggrNAUT
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JggrNAUT 07/15/13 - 10:12 pm
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Fiat

How can you not have positive faith otherwise? There are a lot of unresolved issues that this situation is bringing up to the surface. As a black man myself, I refuse to believe that this country can afford to let these issues tear this country apart.

If there isn't an idealistic vision for our country that "One Nation, Under God" can happen what else can we have faith for? These racial issues won't ever be resolved until we as a Nation can start to worship together....

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allhans 07/15/13 - 10:28 pm
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JggrNAUT - I, too, hope you

JggrNAUT - I, too, hope you are right. If those things are included in the discussion it can only help.

Fiat_Lux
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Fiat_Lux 07/15/13 - 11:26 pm
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What else can be done for black people that has not been done?

The ball is totally in the black community's court. This nation did what no other nation ever has done, not in the whole history of the world. No other slave population has ever been moved and elevated wholesale to the status of citizens. Throughout history, slaves have had to escape or revolt, right down to the Israelites. And yes, there were heroes and martyrs of both races whose sacrifice made that happen. Everything has been done than can be done, except perhaps the letting go of the hand and the requiring of maturity and of stepping up to the adult table by everyone who wants to be treated as a mature adult.

It is the black community that is going to have to take the bull by the horns and require each other to step up and be productive, law-abiding citizens who live moral, responsible lives in peace with their neighbors. That kind of thing can never be forced upon anyone, especially from outsiders, which is what all whites are to the black community. The rules are not going to be changed for success in this country, however, as some kind of penance for the sins of English and Yankees slave traders and Southern slave owners from more than 150 years ago.

Racism does not keep blacks from living how and where they want any more, or from getting a first class education. Educational opportunities today are skewed in favor of ambitious black students. Black families who buy homes in white neighborhoods such as my own seem to have little or no problem fitting in and getting along with their neighbors. Racism doesn't keep people out of nice neighborhoods in Augusta, GA. In fact, with Section 8, some people live there even though they can't afford it and often don't have enough responsibility or social formation to live there successfully.

Until there is a genuine change in attitude, one of assimilating into the national identify, of being Americans instead of hyphenated Americans, there will never be any meaningful change. It is good to celebrate one's heritage as, say, those of Italian, German, Irish, Greek and Korean extraction do. It's quite another thing to refuse to assimilate, to reject the social mores of the greater community and to cling to the most anti-social and destructive elements of one's heritage, beating the rest of us over the head with it, all the while demanding to be totally supported, deferred to and cared for for five generations.

My greatest sadness about what has happened in this nation is the loss of so much brain power, so much strength and potential because of the low level of self-expectation and, especially, such a sweeping perversion of ambition brought about by institutionalized dependency and its inherent self assumptions of inferiority. That massive inferiority complex, and the rage that such a thing produces especially in men, is a false construct that should have been shaken off and left behind decades ago, many decades ago. Too many black men and women have accomplished far too much greatness in our nation over the past 60 years to believe that the basics for achievement weren't available to all, even to Trayvon Martin.

So many have just refused anything but lawlessness, violence and predation. How those have become something to aspire to is desperately sick, and it's killing young black men and women, along many who simply get caught in the cross-fire of that way of life.

I don't see this "after-the-verdict stand-in" doing much to change anything, but rather to cement this sense of entitled inferiority complex all the more firmly.

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Pops 07/16/13 - 04:43 am
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The more television

cameras there, the longer the "stand in" will last. Just a forum so some of Augusta's best and brightest "civil rights" leaders can posture and wail away at the erosion of the rights being taken from their brethren. Just more fiddling while Rome burns.

owensjef3
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owensjef3 07/16/13 - 05:29 am
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You know sometimes it is best
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You know sometimes it is best to keep you mouth closed.

Truth Matters
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Truth Matters 07/16/13 - 06:24 am
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Discussion

I find some of these comments absolutely amazing. On the one hand, some chide Blacks to be responsible then criticize them for meeting without any understanding of the purpose of their meeting. Jumping to conclusions___the very thing that propelled the Zimmerman-Martin encounter into the national arena. One man jumped to a conclusion based on HIS perception and looked where it lead.

When you have nothing productive to say, DON'T SAY ANYTHING!!!!

InChristLove
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InChristLove 07/16/13 - 06:37 am
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Truth Matters, can you

Truth Matters, can you explain the need for a "A Trayvon Martin After-the-Verdict Stand-In is scheduled for noon at the courthouse on James Brown Boulevard at Walton Way.

"When you have nothing productive to say, DON'T SAY ANYTHING!!!!"
Someone else needs to heed their own advice.

Truth Matters
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Truth Matters 07/16/13 - 06:41 am
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To the church organizers:
Please ask ICL and JMO what you should do in your church. They and others want you to be responsible but only if they can tell you how to do it. And they want to prescribe the very content of your meeting. The complete antithesis of responsibility, don't you think. Please pray for them and all like-minded people who so quickly pre-judge the motives of others without taking the time to learn.

Dixieman
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Dixieman 07/16/13 - 07:09 am
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"Discussion"? "Forum"?

Well, I am sure they will be really objective and really enlightening.

nocnoc
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nocnoc 07/16/13 - 07:18 am
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I see the usual hate mongers are at it, try to make a dime

The verdict was not in an hour and the usual Hate Monger were at it trying to drum up hate and civil unrest. But 99.999% of the Nation and black community took a breath and avoided Yet Another Black America Riot.

There is a point where freedom of speech crosses the line and becomes incitement to riot. Each person must be the judge of that line. But the courts are clear on that line even if they continue to get a pass..

Hate Speech Monday Headlines /strong>
'MODERN DAY LYNCHING'... SHARPTON PLANS PROTESTS IN 100 CITIES...

Rally Shuts Down Major Intersection In Newark...

Baltimore Witness: Group of Blacks Beat Hispanic Man, Yelling 'This Is For Trayvon'...

Protesters storm WALMART... and Loot the store

Zimmerman's Parents in Hiding from 'Enormous Amount of Death Threats'...

Oakland: Police Stood Down As 'Protesters' Terrorized Drivers...
Verdict unleashed pent up rage...

These are the incidents reported for Monday so far.
Does anyone else find it strange the South, with the highest percentage of Black Americans in the Nation, has maintained its cool while these incidents grow in the North and West Coast as the Race Card Pimping Reverends, Far Left Socialist Liberals & Pay-per-view Civil Rights Activists go on tour to stir things up?

In all likelihood these people will by the results of their Hate Speeches & actions will be responsible for many injuries, a few deaths and a lot of property damage.

This is the hate speak that should be investigated and prosecuted in court, but such actions would not sit well during and election year.

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Humble Angela 07/16/13 - 07:57 am
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Juggernaut...how about we
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Juggernaut...how about we just wait and see. I'll wager that you are wrong.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 07/16/13 - 08:02 am
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Well, at least organizers have the common sense to hold the Stand-In at the Ruff House on Saturday. If they held it during the week, there would be no place for the protesters to park.

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Bizkit 07/16/13 - 08:31 am
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What an abomination using the

What an abomination using the house of the Lord to propagate hate. Reminds me of Jesus with the money changers.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 07/16/13 - 08:47 am
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What racial issues??? What

What racial issues??? What opportunity is being denied? Someone needs to tell Pres. Obama that he isn't suppose to be office-because he is an oppressed black man-I don't think so. Has anyone been denied an education, right to vote, welfare, the same opportunity -well better opportunity with positive discrimination and affirmative action, denied entrance because of color, denied any possible career of choice (police chief, doctor, lawyer) Seems much of the problems in the black community are self induced-gang violence, failure to educate, failure to work, lack of family, highest STD and AIDS rate, etc. I've spent quite a few years trying to help young blacks to get ahead-I see the sky is the limit and I encourage them to shoot for the stars. The biggest problem I've seen from my personal observation is some of these kids lack family support and help in attaining an education-they are just as bright (if not more so) as any just lack the skills to achieve their goals. And most of all encouragement-I've had students go from F's to A's just because they realized they could do it. Children learn what they live-if they learn to feel oppressed they will live like it.

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lifelongresident 07/16/13 - 08:47 am
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meeting for trayvon???
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i don't get it you want to meet to discuss trayvon martin but you fail to be proactive in taking preventive action regarding the black-on-black crime, the drugs, the welfare, the single parent households (which is the breeding ground) located within richmond county-can you say river glenn, cooney circle, lake olmstead, dogwood terrace, the low performing richmond county schools, out of control teenage births...i guess all of these local issues really don't count because its bottom feeders and parasitic leaders like these who organized this discussion need blacks to be poor, stupid, ill-informed, undisciplined, unprincipled, and animalistic in order to advance their victimization agenda as a way of enriching themselves...why do you think most of the black churches are in the worst sections of town??? they have to be in order for the bottom-feedeing preachers/"passah's" to point out the poverty as leverage to compell their "flock" to give their offering "so dat dey blessin will come down to dem from dey lawd" while they drive off to their million dollar home in ther late model lexus, benz, bmw, or the latest luxury car of choice. there is no money in pointing out what is destroying the black community, because it is those identified who are the givers so they would alienate "dey source of financial sustinence" by demanding and expecting personal responsibility from the black community, its easier to just blame "da white man, slavery, and racism" why 60% of black males in rich cnty drop out, most of the residents in the jail are black, why the "prah-jecks" are filled with young black females having baby-after-baby each one by a different man, why josey, laney, butler, and glenn hills are the worst high schools in the county and possibly in the area (outrside of atlanta), because without this these bottom-feeder will have very little if any significance or influence by which to extort the local government and citizens with threats of "raaaaaaaaaaacism" and they would only be left with their same old tired, old, worn-out and useless "prosperity sermons" always promises riches and better times but never delivering....

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Bizkit 07/16/13 - 08:53 am
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I would argue that racism

I would argue that racism does exist especially against Hispanics and Asians-yet apparently they don't warrant any attention.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 07/16/13 - 09:07 am
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America is no longer the land

America is no longer the land of the Free-now Land of the Oppressed. Christians feel oppressed, Atheist feel oppressed, every ethnicity, conservatives, progressives, liberals, baby boomers, Rep, Dem, etc, etc. etc. etc etc.

seenitB4
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seenitB4 07/16/13 - 09:14 am
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Maybe they should discuss this item

This is the sad part...

In 513 Days Between Trayvon Shooting and Zimmerman Verdict, 11,106 Blacks Murdered by OTHER BLACKS ......

http://www.ijreview.com/2013/07/65527-in-513-days-between-trayvon-shooti...

posted by sheff on another article.

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bigj706 07/16/13 - 09:15 am
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For you to think everything

For you to think everything is perfect shows you have no idea what it is to be a black person in America. I am retired black military proud of my country but I have been put in a whole lot of racial situations in my lifetime, and I'm not talking about the 60s or 70s. I have been pulled over for no reason not just why do I have a new car I couldn't just worked hard for it. I had plenty of friends with the same situation. But when like now the perfect opportunity to talk about issues we get complaints or the famous "your racist for thinking something is wrong. Why are complaining your not slaves anymore" its funny how most people making their comment are using their opinions off television and don't even know whats really going on you just stay in your little neighborhood in your comfort zone and complain. This could be the step to get to talking and put some effort to get a better attitude from everyone to fix racial problem so when things like this happen the country as a whole can deal with it better.

seenitB4
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seenitB4 07/16/13 - 09:25 am
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ok bigj706

You opened up the box....please tell me why does this happen?

In 513 Days Between Trayvon Shooting and Zimmerman Verdict, 11,106 Blacks Murdered by OTHER BLACKS ......

and what can the BLACKS do to stop this carnage?

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