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Fort Gordon warns of traffic delays

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Fort Gordon expects heavy traffic and travel delays beginning Monday morning because of gate access changes.

According to a news release, Fort Gordon will close Gates 2 and 3 and traffic will be directed through Gate 1. A sign at Gate 2 will inform drivers of the change.

Officials say to plan for traffic delays in areas near Gates 1 and 5. Gate 5 will be open from 4:30 a.m. to 10:30 p.m.

According to a news release, because of civilian employee furloughs, the post won’t have enough guards to keep all of the gates open.

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nocnoc
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nocnoc 07/07/13 - 12:04 pm
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Born there, raise there, even worked there.

no longer welcomed to visit there without anal exam

Question:
Why is it ok to ease up on access for a massive public event like fireworks and but the base must be on lock down the rest of the time?

dichotomy
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dichotomy 07/07/13 - 12:14 pm
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Are the guards being furloughed

Are the guards being furloughed more days than the rest of the civilian workforce? If not, seems to me that if the guards were furloughed on the same days as the rest of the civilian workforce things would work out pretty even. They could close 2 and 3 on Fridays but there would not be many delays because most of the civilian workers would be on furlough too. Or is that too logical and would not force enough pain and inconvenience?

Maybe I just don't have all of the facts.

Darby
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Darby 07/07/13 - 12:24 pm
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"the installation will not have enough guards

to keep all of the gates open, and military personnel are not allowed to be used as substitutes for civilian employees who are being furloughed."

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Please forgive this ancient relic, but I can remember when the gates were manned ONLY by military personnel.

What happened? Is this some sort of throwback to a labor union arrangement?

Why is a "commander" not allowed to determine the best use of HIS resources? I guess he's a commander in name only in this brave new world.

What kind of bureaucratic mumbo-jumbo is going on in our "modern" military?

myfather15
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myfather15 07/07/13 - 12:42 pm
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This is nothing but Obama's

This is nothing but Obama's plan to make the sequestration HURT US, as much as possible!! They do NOT have to cut federal LE officers or security!! With all the wasteful spending ALL federal government does, you would think they could find a better way to cut costs, and they COULD!! But they don't want to!! They want this to hurt YOU and I as much as humanly possible; so we remember this is November 2014.

Hey Mr. Community Organizer!! How about start with cutting the 220 Million going to Puerto Rico for them to ship RUM to the United States!!! How about Senator's and Congressmen and women STOP paying $50,000.00 apiece for self portraits to hang in their office!!! I swear, If I could, I would punch any representative who did this, right in his or her face!!! They want us to suffer and wait in long lines at the gates, but hang portraits of themselves on the wall, WOW!!!

The audacity of these people is astounding!!! They are RUINING this Country but have the nerve to hang portraits of themselves in THEIR offices!!! Absolutely mind boggling!!!

gargoyle
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gargoyle 07/07/13 - 01:24 pm
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Using Civilian Contractors to

Using Civilian Contractors to guard a military instalation has always been indefensible . In the DOD line of business one would think they would keep security in house .

chascushman
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chascushman 07/07/13 - 02:36 pm
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"Hey Mr. Community
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"Hey Mr. Community Organizer!! How about start with cutting the 220 Million going to Puerto Rico for them to ship RUM to the United States!!!"
Myfather, how about $100M it cost for him to take his family to what he considers his home land.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 07/07/13 - 03:06 pm
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Obamatics

On a military base with thousands of trained soldiers who are sometimes detailed to mow grass and other menial tasks, it is certainly feasible to use them. This is Obama politics. Obamatics.

RunningMan
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RunningMan 07/07/13 - 04:08 pm
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How Long

It didn't take long for the Obama haters to make this another issue caused by him. You guys will cry wolf for just about anything. It seem your entire life is consumed with finding something to blame on Obama (Mr. President). Stop it already!!! Trust me, this is not a big deal to most of us, given that most have other major issues going on in their life. Stop crying about small potatoes.

myfather15
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myfather15 07/07/13 - 04:49 pm
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RunningMan

HE (Obama) is the one going on TV, telling the American people that "Criminals will go free"; prosecutions will have to be dropped!!

HE is the one using scare tactics AND shutting down White House tours, even after PRIVATE CITIZENS offered to pay the ENTIRE COST of White House tours. Tell me this; why would he turn this down? WHY I ask you??? These citizens wanted to pay THEIR OWN money for the White House to be open to children, for tours and they didn't even get a return phone call!!

Please answer me with, with any sort of rational logic!! The only reason I can think he wouldn't accept this offer is that he WANTS the White House closed, to hurt republicans who were for the sequestration!! Please, give me another reason NOT to open the White House when private citizens would be paying for the tours!!! I CAN'T WAIT to hear your answer!!

chascushman
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chascushman 07/07/13 - 05:45 pm
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'It seem your entire life is
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'It seem your entire life is consumed with finding something to blame on Obama (Mr. President)."
Runningman, you might call him (Mr. President)but he is really a lying, America hating Marxist/communist.

CobaltGeorge
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CobaltGeorge 07/07/13 - 05:57 pm
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You Know What Annoys The Hell Out Of Me?

Is the "It" that has given TSD's to the undisputable comments above. This It has got to be one Brain Dead Staggering Zombie who will follow the American Traitor off the Clift no matter what happens or how destructive obvious it is.

Never once has It ever user name identify Itself and gave a reason for not accepting the comments made. (It knows it can't) So sad they walk among us.

RunningMan
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RunningMan 07/07/13 - 06:15 pm
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My Father... Simple…it’s a

My Father... Simple…it’s a matter of principle. Private citizens should not have to pay for tours of the White House. Bottom-line, the funds are not there to continue having tours. Those private citizens that can should use their money for something more worthwhile. I too have made similar decisions during this difficult time. It will pass. In the mean time the tours can wait. Additionally, if you are going to deny access, deny access to all regardless of financial status.

Chascushman... I really meant to say Commander-In-Chief. I supported many more before Obama, and I will continue to support him as long as he has America's best interest at heart.

CobaltGeorge... Exactly. I feel the same about so many on here regarding there blind view of the way things really are. Looks like we have something in common.

chascushman
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chascushman 07/07/13 - 06:53 pm
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"I supported many more before
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"I supported many more before Obama, and I will continue to support him as long as he has America's best interest at heart."
Runningman, he DOES NOT HAVE AMERICA'S BEST INTEREST AT HEART. He believes in what he calls Social Justice and that the USA became rich by stealing from poor countries and it is his job to correct that.

myfather15
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myfather15 07/07/13 - 07:19 pm
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That's not just chascushman's word

That's in his OWN BOOK RunningMan!! Frank Marshall Davis anyone?

myfather15
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myfather15 07/07/13 - 08:20 pm
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RunningMan

You completely avoided ACTUALLY answering the question, by twisting the question!! I NEVER asked why citizens should HAVE to pay for the tours, because I KNOW they don't HAVE too. I said, why would Obama NOT allow them to pay for them? Why would he not even entertain the idea? It wouldn't cost the government anything? So the government is ok with raising federal taxes but NOT ok with private citizens donating to help children visit the White House? Does that really make sense to you? Sense your a new poster on here, please don't do as your other liberal buddies do, why don't you actually answer the question.

These Citizens are muliti-millionaires who have each pledged to pay for one month of tours, which would be approximately $300,000.00 to them, which is NOTHING to them.

You state "Those private citizens that can should use their money for something more worthwhile"

So now it's up to YOU and Obama to tell them whats worthwhile to spend THEIR money on? Well, thats nothing new for Obama but I'm not sure about you. I guess children who really want to visit the White House aren't "worthwhile".

As for " and I will continue to support him as long as he has America's best interest at heart. "

Well, your support for him should have ended about 2 seconds after they called him the winner of the FIRST ELECTION; because this man has NEVER had AMERICA's best interest in his heart!!

myfather15
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myfather15 07/07/13 - 07:34 pm
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Keep in mind, it would cost

Keep in mind, it would cost them about $3.6 million to keep the White House open ALL YEAR!! Ooooh, theres now way we can do that, now can we? 3.6 Million is an extreme amount of money, huh RunningMan?

The Presiden, Congress and Senators probably use 3.6 millon worth of toilet paper a year. That's just ONE White House party or Vegas Trip for some government organization!!

Are you serious? We can't afford 3.6 million? Come on now RunningMan, you honestly aren't trying to pass this off as respectable?

CobaltGeorge
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CobaltGeorge 07/07/13 - 08:14 pm
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Running Man......

"Looks like we have something in common."

I Don't Thinks So!!"

macrec
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macrec 07/07/13 - 08:26 pm
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Blame President Obama for

Blame President Obama for everything that goes wrong. Raining? It’s Obama’s fault. Sun Shining? It’s Obama’s fault. Stump your toe? It’s Obama’s fault. Ran out of Toilet Paper....Obama again.... SMH

gargoyle
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gargoyle 07/07/13 - 08:40 pm
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Not quite

Everything is Bush's fault but the sun shining, the press will give Obama the credit.

corgimom
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corgimom 07/07/13 - 09:57 pm
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Stopping the White House

Stopping the White House tours has nothing to do with money and everything to do with security.

Use your common sense, people.

corgimom
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corgimom 07/07/13 - 10:01 pm
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Puerto Rico is part of the

Puerto Rico is part of the United States and they pay US taxes.

By all means, give them $300 million, so that they have jobs, or do you want to put the entire island of Puerto Rico on welfare, so that we pay even MORE taxes?

myfather, before you fall off your soap box, think it through. Geeze Louise.

myfather15
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myfather15 07/07/13 - 10:39 pm
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Corgimom

You say this "Stopping the White House tours has nothing to do with money and everything to do with security."

Then you tell me to "think it through"? Really?

It costs MONEY to pay SECURITY!! How in the world do you make that comment and then tell someone else to think something through. They've even SAID they had to cut back on security because of sequestration!! So they cancelled the White House tours, even for elementary school kids taking field trips. OMG!!! Those little 7 year olds are a serious security threat!!!

By THEIR NUMBERS, not mine; it takes about $75,000.00 a week to have the White House tours, which is about $300,000.00 a month and 3.6 Million a year. Private Citizens have OFFERED (not been forced) to pay the entire amount for a year!! Seriously, is there any such thing as common sense these days? Why would Obama or ANYONE not entertain the idea of reopening the White House, if it wasn't costing government a dime?

Why? Because the citizens offering the money are CONSERVATIVES and it might actually make a conservative look good. The Obamasiah certainly can't have a conservative look good!! He has to make the PEOPLE feel the wrath of the sequestration as much as possible to hurt those evil republicans!!

Also, the money went to Puerto Rico to ship RUM!!! What if the majority of people don't drink RUM? That is a PRIVATE industry, so why are we paying operating costs for a private industry? Hey, why don't we pay the folks in Lynchburg to ship their whiskey? Maybe we should pay for other Countries to ship their vodka, or maybe pay Mexico to ship their tequila!!

Lets not think about the FACT that if we were to cut the 220 million for shipping RUM; that 220 Million would reopen the White House tours for 61 years!!! Nope, there simply is NOWHERE to find adequate cuts in spending, we must close the White House and sit in long lines at military bases!!

The logic some people use, it's no wonder this Country is losing it's principals!!

Darby
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Darby 07/07/13 - 10:43 pm
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"Trust me, this is not a big deal

to most of us, given that most have other major issues going on in their life. Stop crying about small potatoes."

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No, it's never a big deal for those who live off the labor of others.

And the potatoes always seem small, when someone else is providing them and you can never get enough.

And believe it or not, you do not speak for "most" of us.

Do yourself a HUGE favor. Admit to yourself that OzBama is the biggest disaster to strike America since Pearl Harbor.

myfather15
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myfather15 07/07/13 - 10:45 pm
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Do you realize Abraham

Do you realize Abraham Lincoln used to let people (even drunkards) pass out IN and sleep in the White House or on the steps?

Abraham Lincoln was a WARRIOR and a deep man of faith!! The politicians we have today are complete panzies, scared of their own shadows!! I'm not saying we shouldn't have security, but I would be willing to bet THEIR idea of security is far more than needed!!

Valkyrie1
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Valkyrie1 07/08/13 - 12:52 am
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Abraham Lincoln

was a racist who wanted to send all of the African American slaves to thier own island. He only freed them to anger the south. He also used martial law to stop votes in states in the Union during the civil war. While he managed by the skin of his teeth to hold the US together as one country he was not the shining beacon of heroism that we are taught in elementary school. There are several enlightening history books out there that was through the victor's BS and reveal history in a far more balanced way. You should read some.

Darby
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Darby 07/08/13 - 12:59 am
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"Abraham Lincoln was a racist who wanted to

send all of the African American slaves to thier own island. He only freed them to anger the south."

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And you know this because....?????

You share your documentation with the rest of he uninformed and waiting world.

nocnoc
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nocnoc 07/08/13 - 07:27 am
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Actually Liberia was founded

Actually Liberia was founded by Freed American slaves that accepted the offer of return passage to Africa. The return passage offer was partially funded by the US Gov. (VP / President Johnson 1865+ and President Grants Administrations) plus civil groups. But never by President Lincoln.

Only a few thousand did so, because few knew anything of Africa, or where they came from or what tribe or their tribal language.

An those that did, knew there was little chance of making it back to their conquered tribal areas and if they did the difference in the living conditions there vs. here for poor blacks was about the same. According to what I was taught in 1970's - 80's College history classes.

Not sure now, since the Liberia civil war of the late 1990's to 2004 but they even still used US Dollars as currency.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 07/08/13 - 08:19 am
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Why Not?

Responding to another commenter, RunningMan posted:

My Father... Simple…it’s a matter of principle. Private citizens should not have to pay for tours of the White House.

Funny, I never learned that principle in my school days. Can you give any logic, any reasoning about why people should not pay for a tour of a tourist attraction? You have to pay to get into the Kremlin, don't you?

resident
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resident 07/08/13 - 09:56 am
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What a Waste

How much money is being wasted as billable time? Yes because of Government decision/actions some contractors can bill their time. I bet Civilians can also bill this time sot hat means that instead of an 8 hour work day you might get 6 plus lunch. The Garrison commander could easily have used military to fill those places. The law says you can't replace them but in the case of orderly and systematic operations and safety and security. This places the ability well above Sequester CRAP!!!!!! that this administration mandated be as painful as possible to send a message. This was publicly EXPOSED not acknowledged because this administration in charge only wants transparency if it is for their political good.

llewallen
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llewallen 07/08/13 - 10:08 am
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Obama's Fault? NO

Sorry, this isn't Obama's fault. The blame lies squarely with Congress. According to the Constitution the action of taxation and spending is a Congressional responsibility NOT a Presidential one. BUT, please continue to blame him if it makes you feel better.

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