Gun control fears boost crowds, prices at Augusta gun show

Saturday, Jan. 26, 2013 3:19 PM
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Just after daylight Saturday, Larry Steverson already knew his gun show in Augusta was destined for the record books.

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Attendees check out some of the guns available for sale during the gun show at the Augusta Exchange Club Fair Grounds. The show continues from 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. Sunday.  TODD BENNETT/STAFF
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Attendees check out some of the guns available for sale during the gun show at the Augusta Exchange Club Fair Grounds. The show continues from 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. Sunday.

“See that line out there? It’s been totally insane,” he said. “It’s been like that since before 8 a.m., and we don’t even open doors till 9.”

The CEO of GunRunner Shows said he holds about 50 events a year across Georgia and South Carolina and has watched attendance – and prices – skyrocket since Pres­i­dent Obama announced a push for new gun control laws.

Thousands packed the Au­gusta Exchange Club Fair­grounds exhibit hall, with many waiting in line 45 minutes to an hour just to reach the front door.

“I’ve never seen anything like this,” said Dwayne Reigle, an avid hunter and outdoorsman from Harlem.

Like many visitors at the two-day event, he was interested in modern sporting arms or "assault rifles" that could be banned or become more strictly regulated.

“I came out today looking for an AR .223,” he said. “I found them, too, but I’m not going to pay what they’re asking.”

Many of the semi-automatic rifles have increased in price because of demand. At one table, rifles that retailed for $700 to $1,000 just six weeks ago were priced at $1,999.99.

“They must like their guns more than I do,” Reigle said. “That’s too much.

Forty minutes later, however, three of the four rifles laid out on a table were gone.

Ed Moreaux, a vendor who owns the Battle Shop in Dawson­ville, Ga., enjoyed the big crowds that include lots of gun show newcomers.

“There’s probably more looking at my table than buying,” he said, “but you have to look before you buy.”

Moreaux’s display of artwork made from rifle cartridges and vintage military firearms drew plenty of interest.

His centerpiece was a World War II Browning machine gun that could have seen battle in Europe or the Pacific Theater. The weapon was partially dismantled to render it inoperable, but for $8,000, a collector could take it home intact.

“This particular one was made by General Motors,” Moreaux said, noting that many U.S. companies churned out military items during the war. “General Motors made a lot of guns.”

Stever­son was enjoying the surge in the popularity of gun shows.

“This one is, by far, the biggest one ever here in Augusta,” he said.

Several vendors were newcomers or were returning after a long absence.

“There are two or three people here who haven’t set up at a show in 20 years,” Steverson said.

The show continues from 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. Sunday at the Exchange Club Fair­grounds.

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carcraft
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carcraft 01/26/13 - 05:48 pm
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A friend bought an AR15 three

A friend bought an AR15 three months ago for about $650.00. The same gun at the gun show was $1800.00 to $2,000.00 . Ammo I payed about $2.50 a box for 6 months ago is $10/box!

OpenCurtain
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OpenCurtain 01/26/13 - 06:57 pm
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Just a Gun "Show", not a Gun "buying" show

We were there at 8:20am in line and maybe 50 feet from the door when it opened around 9:15am. The line by the time the doors opened was a good 200 yards long.

Once inside I was totally *&$$@ ticked off.
RCSO should have been called for Profiteering in a emergency.

Items were 3 to 4 times the normal price. 2 Pawn dealers & private owners walking the outside line with For Sale signs on AR-10-15 style weapons asking $4,500.00+

Show Dealers inside miking every penny they could out of green horns or panic buyers. Again at price 3 to 4 times normal 60 days ago.

We found only one dealer selling 30/06 Match at a reasonable price $10 per 20 but it was 40+ year old loads. We Nixed that quickly, toss in the towel and headed over to Graniteville SC. Where we purchased about 5000 mix SP, LP, SR, LR primers, the same mix in bullets, 2lbs each W231, 296, and IMR 4350 powders. Spend about $380 for reloading stuff and left happy.

We had lunch at Hardee's in North Augusta on the way back home.

Won't being doing another local gun show for a for a while. But our group is planning to attend the next EASTMAN show.

Jake
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Jake 01/26/13 - 07:02 pm
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Suckers

I guess only the gullible will buy weapons and ammo at inflated prices. Remember, the revolution is just around the corner, right after the American Idol final so stock up before it is too late.

OldArmySGT
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OldArmySGT 01/26/13 - 08:07 pm
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Gun runners shows

Myself and many others no longer go to the gun runner gun shows. This comes from an incident where they embarrassed an off duty, out of town police officer that had his department issued handgun on him. The police officer was following his department policy, that he be armed at all times. The police officer was refused entry until he had taken his weapon to his car. Several gang members had seen the incident and followed the officer around the show making comments about how they knew he was an unarmed police officer. The officer was made so uncomfortable that he left. After seeing a brother officer treated this way, I quickly decided that gun runner would never get my money again.

oldredneckman96
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oldredneckman96 01/26/13 - 08:26 pm
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Guns
Unpublished

I guess that when “it” hits the fan, Americans with guns will be shooting and the Communist anti-gunners will be ducking. I ask the Augusta Chronicle to print the names and addresses of all those who say we should be disarmed, to let the criminals focus on where to go shop.

Willow Bailey
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Willow Bailey 01/26/13 - 08:49 pm
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^^lol, shopping will not be

^^lol, shopping will not be good at my house.^^

oldredneckman96
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oldredneckman96 01/26/13 - 09:05 pm
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One more thought
Unpublished

Yes gun prices are spiking, that is why you always prepare before "it" hits the fan. Liberals do not understand this at all, knee-jerk is all they know. It is why they do not see why we "need" a bigger, better gun.

myfather15
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myfather15 01/26/13 - 09:05 pm
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People buying firearms that

People buying firearms that COULD be banned soon!! What does that tell the secular left? Well, it should tell them these people WILL NOT turn them in, EVER. As I wouldn't, even if they came out with a complete ban. These people aren't buying the firearms to turn them in; in a year or so. Your BANS will NEVER work!! But thanks for trying!!

Rob Pavey
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Rob Pavey 01/26/13 - 09:36 pm
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the irony:

The irony in the newest gun-control debate is that the anti-gun lobby has inadvertently fueled the biggest surge in gun sales and ownership in modern history.

Rob Pavey
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Rob Pavey 01/26/13 - 09:36 pm
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the irony:

The irony in the newest gun-control debate is that the anti-gun lobby has inadvertently fueled the biggest surge in gun sales and ownership in modern history.

Brad Owens
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Brad Owens 01/26/13 - 10:00 pm
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Gun Runner Shows...

I have been setting up at these shows on and off for almost 20 years and I have no complaints. Larry has always been good to me and I make money.

OldArmySGT, if your officer friend was not on duty or in uniform then he had no business taking a loaded gun into a gun show. Being a LEO doesn't exempt you from rules and if he was "intimidated" by "gang members" inside the show then you all should have informed Larry and they would have been asked out, but that being said, I wonder if he is cut out for police work at all if unarmed folks in a gun show can intimidate him so bad he has to leave.

OldArmySGT
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OldArmySGT 01/26/13 - 11:09 pm
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Gun runner shows

Brad, there is no law preventing an officer from carrying his/her weapon at a gun show. In fact there are federal and state laws that give off duty/on duty/retired officers the right to carry. This became a private property issue through the lease agreement for the venue. The promoter said that only off duty Richmond county deputies could carry. As for being cut out for law enforcement, he has been at it for almost 20 years, and [filtered word] off a lot of criminals including gang members. One of the current initiations for some gangs is to bring in a badge with blood on it. Larry created a dangerous environment for this officer. I wouldnt be surprised if the lease for the venue is changed to where he can not do this in the future.

Dixieman
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Dixieman 01/27/13 - 04:12 am
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2,000,000 POINTS

"fears"? how about "opposition"? "People fear X" is only used in journalism to describe conservative views. People "fear" gun control, tax increases, gay marriage etc. Liberals "oppose" what they don't like. AC needs better headline standards.

Techfan
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Techfan 01/27/13 - 06:47 am
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Very similar to all of the

Very similar to all of the gold commercials and fear tactics where they encourage the gullible to buy gold at inflated prices while at the same time encourage you to sell your gold at discount prices. "We'll be at the Holiday Inn for 3 days only." doesn't encourage me. I try to avoid transactions with people who set up shop for 3 days at a motel. Heck, they've got motor homes that ride around buying gold. I'll admit, I've donated blood at a motor home, but never conducted any other type of transaction. If it ever really hits the fan, a can of beans (cost of P-38 is extra) or a book of matches will be worth more than all of the gold in the world.

Techfan
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Techfan 01/27/13 - 06:58 am
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After I posted my last

After I posted my last comment there was a pop-up (strange how my pop-up blocker seems to catch pretty much everything except when using the AC?) for Stansberry & Associates Investment Research, and how "Obama has a secret plan for staying in power until 2020". Fear is a great motivator. That's why it's used to drive up the price of guns and gold, allow disreputable companies, like the one in the pop-up, to sucker folks in, and allow Faux "News" to drive ratings. The old adage of, "A fool and his money...." always applies.

Just My Opinion
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Just My Opinion 01/27/13 - 08:09 am
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I don't own a gun, but have

I don't own a gun, but have NOTHING against folks who do. In fact, if I was in the middle of something going down, I'd sure hope the next guy had one to use. ANYWAY..back to my point..I fully realize that these gun-show guys are in it to make money, but, by driving up the prices, they are keeping guys like me from buying a weapon. I just can't afford those prices. So, in essence, they are preventing people from being able to own a gun by driving up the prices to ridiculous levels. But...am I wrong here? Are the only prices being raised up on for the assault rifles?

seenitB4
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seenitB4 01/27/13 - 08:35 am
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Long lines in Gwinnett too

Gun shows are making a killing ...long lines & they are buying not just looking.

OpenCurtain
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OpenCurtain 01/27/13 - 10:07 am
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SIB4 - Gwinnett Show

The Lawrenceville Fair Ground show has usually been rated well above Gun Runner shows (less junk more gun items) and just a step below Eastman's shows. My son sent us Smart Phone video of the line as he drove by at 8am. The line also stretched over 200 yards before the doors opened. He given up and when over to Doug's Gun Shop on Old Norcross Rd. He Picked up much of what he needed and at a lot better price there. He happen to speak with a few of the Show visitors who came in just before he left. They said the Gun Show was like a Super Market 2 hours before a Major Storm. People buying anything just to have something.

According to the Social Democrats & the liberal media, only Right Wing Nut Jobs, own firearms. If that be the case, then they are bleeding members based on the number of 1st time buyers.

Patty-P
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Patty-P 01/27/13 - 10:17 am
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Something about a policy for

Something about a policy for an off-duty officer to carry his gun with him (on person) everywhere he goes sounds fishy to me. If you are off duty, you're off duty. Right?

OpenCurtain
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OpenCurtain 01/27/13 - 10:20 am
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Why are the National

Why are the National Democratic Socialists worried?
(source Gunpolicy.org and ANTI-GUN Group)

The estimated total number of guns held by civilians in the United States is 270,000,000 (270M)

The defense forces of the United States are reported to have 3,054,553 firearms. (3.05M)

Number of Law Enforcement Firearms
Police in the United States are reported to have 897,400 firearms
(Less than 1M)

QUESTION:
Looking at these numbers, how can the National Democratic Socialists groups hope to FORCE a well armed population to adhere to anything that is against US Constitutional Law?

ANSWER:
they have 3 years 11 months to Restrict Ammo supplies.
Which might explain Social Security, FEMA, HS, and other departments making large ODD multiple purchases of 20Million to 40Million rounds every month for the last 5+ months? These purchases have depleted stock piles, driving up prices and creating a panic.

Is it accidental we saw the same plan being used in the Clinton Admin. until the public wised up and voted in the Repubs congress to stop it?

GunNewbie
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GunNewbie 01/27/13 - 10:29 am
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hand gun prices?

So, I get the impression that rifles, assault weapons, and the corresponding ammo. are pretty high right now. Can anyone comment on the price of handguns and shotguns at the gun show? I'm deciding whether to go or not, and that's what I was interested in. Also, is it still that busy well after 9am?

GnipGnop
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GnipGnop 01/27/13 - 10:30 am
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Actually Patty...

They are never off duty..I know several that carry no matter where they go. They are obligated to stop criminals activity whether on duty or off.

Patty-P
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Patty-P 01/27/13 - 10:47 am
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GnipGnop

I understand what you mean by that, but to HAVE to carry it anywhere and everywhere you go while off duty seems a bit much. That is the first I've heard that it was a policy.

louiemcman
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louiemcman 01/27/13 - 11:13 am
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I've been going to the shows

I've been going to the shows for years, got there about 11:30 and the line was about 100 yards long and not moving. I heard someone in line ask how much it was to get in, obviously there first show. I only stayed a few minutes before I came to my senses and left, figuring that
I would leave the crowds and high prices to the rookies...they should have seen the light a couple years ago...too late now....

Will
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Will 01/27/13 - 11:36 am
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Tension is so high right now it wouldn't take much to spark off a full scale revolution. It's not a matter of "if" but "when".

dichotomy
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dichotomy 01/27/13 - 11:50 am
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After the Colorado theater

After the Colorado theater shooting I felt dumb paying $1k for a rifle, accessories, and ammo. Now I wish I'd bought 5 of them.

GunNewbie
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GunNewbie 01/27/13 - 12:11 pm
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re: hand gun prices?

Unfortunately, many comments on here focus on Obama, politics, & police officers. I was trying to decide whether to go to buy a handgun. What I did gather was that rifles and ammo. is currently outrageous and even at 11:30am, there is still a long slow line to get in, with people scrambling to buy anything.
So yeah, I guess I won't go. It doesn't sound like much of an opportunity.

seenitB4
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seenitB4 01/27/13 - 12:20 pm
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open

Thanks for telling me about Dougs gun shop.....

BCmike
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BCmike 01/27/13 - 12:39 pm
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Law Enforcement officers are

Law Enforcement officers are never off duty, and yes some departments require personal to be armed at all times.

Gun shows have changed in the 20 years. You use to go to pick up bulk and surplus ammo and stuff that local shops dont carry. I went once last year (first time in 7 or 8 years) and bought a peice of reloading equipment. payed a couple bucks more then I would have if I ordered it online but I didnt want to wait for shipping.

(from wiki)
Price gouging is a pejorative term referring to a situation in which a seller prices goods or commodities much higher than is considered reasonable or fair. This rapid increase in prices occurs after a demand or supply shock: examples include price increases after hurricanes or other natural disasters. In precise, legal usage, it is the name of a crime that applies in some of the United States during civil emergencies. In less precise usage, it can refer either to prices obtained by practices inconsistent with a competitive free market, or to windfall profits. In the Soviet Union, it was simply included under the single definition of speculation.

The term is similar to profiteering but can be distinguished by being short-term and localized, and by a restriction to essentials such as food, clothing, shelter, medicine and equipment needed to preserve life, limb and property. In jurisdictions where there is no such crime, the term may still be used to pressure firms to refrain from such behavior.

The term is not in widespread use in mainstream economic theory, but is sometimes used to refer to practices of a coercive monopoly which raises prices above the market rate that would otherwise prevail in a competitive environment.[1] Alternatively, it may refer to suppliers' benefiting to excess from a short-term change in the demand curve.

As a criminal offense, Florida's law[2] is an example. Price gouging may be charged when a supplier of essential goods or services sharply raises the prices asked in anticipation of or during a civil emergency, or when it cancels or dishonors contracts in order to take advantage of an increase in prices related to such an emergency. The model case is a retailer who increases the price of existing stocks of milk and bread when a hurricane is imminent. It is a defense to show that the price increase mostly reflects increased costs, such as running an emergency generator, or hazard pay for workers.

Laws against price gougingIn the United States, laws against price gouging have been held constitutional[3] at the state level as a valid exercise of the police power to preserve order during an emergency, and may be combined with anti-hoarding measures. Exceptions are prescribed for price increases that can be justified in terms of increased cost of supply, transportation or storage. Statutes generally give wide discretion not to prosecute: in 2004, Florida determined that one-third of complaints were unfounded, and a large fraction of the remainder were handled by consent decrees, rather than prosecution. Proponents of laws against price gouging assert that it can create an unrealistic psychological demand that can drive a non-replenishable item into extinction.[4] As of 2008, thirty-four states in the United States have enacted laws against price-gouging. Price-gouging is often defined in terms of three criteria listed below:[5]

1.Period of Emergency: The majority of laws apply only to price shifts during a time of disaster.

2.Necessary items: Most laws apply exclusively to items which are essential to survival.

3.Price ceilings: Laws limit the maximum price that can be charged for given goods.

A prevalent concern surrounding price gouging is that it exploits consumers. Supporters of anti price gouging laws argue that it is morally wrong for sellers to take advantage of buyer’s vulnerability and increased demand. Buyers are not coerced to take part in this exchange and they voluntarily agree to pay the seller’s asking price. In addition to these mandated laws, many businesses avoid increasing prices after a disaster in order to avoid consumer backlash and stigma.

Opposition to laws against price gougingEconomists Thomas Sowell and Walter E. Williams, among others, argue against laws that interfere with large price changes. According to this view, high prices can be viewed as information for use in determining the best allocation of scarce resources for which there are multiple uses. Many libertarian economists oppose price gouging legislation and argue that it prevents goods from going to individuals who value them the most. For example, after a storm has felled numerous trees in a locality, a rise in the price of chain saws will discourage their purchase by people with only a minor need for them, making them more available for those with the strongest need. Problems during the Siege of Paris (1870–1871), which critics attribute to price restrictions, are often held up as another example. With price gouging laws in place, producers are only able to charge a set price, then they have little additional incentive to increase supply to adversely impacted area; if producers are able to make extra profit then they will increase supply. These laws lead to after-market operations as consumers with the lowest opportunity costs buy up desired resources and attempt to resell them to public at higher prices.

In terms of fairness, anti-price gouging laws require producers to sell goods below their market-clearing price: the market clearing price is the amount at which quantity supplied is equal to quantity demanded. If goods are priced above their market-clearing price then there will be a surplus of goods and the converse leads to a shortage of goods. Under anti-price gouging laws, consumers are unable to buy the necessary goods which they desire in a time of need.

According to the neoliberal approach, anti-price gouging laws prevent allocative efficiency. Allocative efficiency refers to when prices function properly, markets tend to allocate resources to their most valued uses. In turn those who value the good the most will be willing to pay a higher price than those who do not value the good as much.[5] According to Friedrich Hayek in The Use of Knowledge in Society, prices can act to coordinate the separate actions of different people as they seek to satisfy their desires.[6] Prices fluctuate with changing desires and convey information to buyers and sellers about supply and demand of goods.

Many economists argue that laws against price increases serve only to restrict supplies of a good or service by reducing the incentive suppliers have to undertake any additional costs, hazards or inconvenience that may be required. They argue further saying that these price increases force consumers to ration goods thus increasing the longevity of certain resources in an emergency.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Price_gouging

BCmike
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BCmike 01/27/13 - 12:42 pm
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Gun Nwebie, go to Poderosa

Gun Nwebie, go to Poderosa Trading Co. down Hwy 56 in Burke Co. Best place to get handguns in CSRA. if you live in Georgia, if not they can transfer to a dealer in SC but will cost about $30 more for background check/transfer fee.

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