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A proposal to add concrete medians on Windsor Spring Road has the owners of two mobile home parks concerned about traffic safety.

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Owner Carol Marsh, of the Cedar Village Mobile Home park, points to where a proposed construction project will affect the park.  SARA CALDWELL/STAFF
SARA CALDWELL/STAFF
Owner Carol Marsh, of the Cedar Village Mobile Home park, points to where a proposed construction project will affect the park.

When the thoroughfare is widened from two to four lanes, the addition of a concrete median will block vehicles entering and exiting the parks, Carol and Loren Marsh said. The design forces people leaving the park to make a right-hand turn onto the northbound lane and then a U-turn at a break in the median to travel south.

“They’re not going to improve the flow of traffic,” said Loren Marsh. “It’s an impediment that’s not going to help.”

Construction to widen Windsor Spring Road from Tobacco Road to Georgia Highway 88 is expected to begin in 2014. An 8-foot-wide, multi-use trail will be added on both sides.

The Marshes, the owners of the parks since 1981, missed public meetings on the road project when they were out of town. Like other residents and business owners in the area, the Marshes have long wanted the road widened to relieve traffic congestion. But a center turn lane, similar to those on Tobacco Road and Washington Road, is a safer alternative to concrete medians, the couple said.

The Georgia Department of Transportation said a raised concrete median is planned because of high traffic volume.

More than 33,000 cars travel along Windsor Spring between Tobacco and Willis Foreman roads every day. That number is expected to climb to about 50,000 in the next two decades.

“Raised medians provide a physical separation that reduces head-on and side-swipe crash rates by eliminating mid-block left-turning vehicles,” said Krystal Stovall-Dixon, GDOT’s project manager.

The mobile home parks have a combined 200 residential spaces, the Marshes said. The road is already congested because of nearby schools and Diamond Lakes Regional Park, and more commercial development is expected, Loren Marsh said.

Concrete medians will slow down response times for emergency vehicles and cause more motorists to make detours through neighborhoods, they said.

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countyman
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countyman 12/23/12 - 09:52 pm
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Hmm?? I noticed a total of

Hmm?? I noticed a total of zero comments when millions are proposed for South Augusta.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 12/24/12 - 01:06 am
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Turning Left

Get over it. Just go with the flow.

omnomnom
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omnomnom 12/24/12 - 04:05 am
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Heh. I'll have to remember to

Heh. I'll have to remember to put "concrete medians" to the list of amenities South Augusta has to offer.

Not terribly familiar with this part of town.. would the topography (hills) be a considerable factor in the accidents on this road? If so then a median would definitely help..

I hope they have a few u-turn areas to keep motorists from having to double back a great distance

useful
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useful 12/24/12 - 09:34 am
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It will be a lot safer

It will be a lot safer entering windsor spring rd.The turn areas are not that far apart. I Look foward to the new road,also if it was more important for the owners to miss these meetings [a lot more than one]
they should not complain now.

InChristLove
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InChristLove 12/24/12 - 08:57 am
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(countryman) "Hmm?? I noticed

(countryman) "Hmm?? I noticed a total of zero comments when millions are proposed for South Augusta."

Maybe since this article was updated late Sunday evening when most have curtailed posting on comments and are retiring for the evening is why.

Personally, I'm not a big fan of concrete barriers and I'm familiar with this location. I think Ms. Marsh has a valid point and I'm curious if the entrance/exit to the school driveway and to Diamon Lake will also contain a concrete barrier where patrons will have to go right, then travel down a ways to u-turn back to the left.

Wasn't this the same complaint as to the proposed concrete barrier on Hwy 56.

OpenCurtain
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OpenCurtain 12/24/12 - 10:08 am
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County(PR)Man

You are pulling our leg right ?

A road widening paid for by STATE DOT funds equals the South Side Taxpayer $$$$ being sucked into Downtown for Revitalization, Redevelopment, project after project?
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Chime in any one with a established account that is buying this diatribe.

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This is just GA DOT Slick wording for selling it.

" An 8-foot-wide, multi-use trail will be added on both sides."
In other words a State RIGHT-OF-WAY.

Using their example of repackaging.
It makes things grow, produces food, it organic it is good for the earth.
=Bull Manure.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 12/24/12 - 10:59 am
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Trail

I'm sure the trail will be paved with asphalt. That makes it impervious. As Open Curtain says, it's state right of way, but most of this property is on various people's deeds. When the city gets around to implementing the stormwater fee, this "trail" is going to cost property owners month after month, with the money going into a massive slush fund downtown; a fund with little to no accountability.

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P.S. Medians (whether concrete or landscaped) with well-thought-out U-turn provisions are way safer than suicide lanes.

OpenCurtain
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OpenCurtain 12/24/12 - 12:00 pm
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Instead of U-Turns Why not add

A round about (traffic circles)?
Maybe this is a good place to add them and SLOW down the traffic in the area?

Sweet son
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Sweet son 12/24/12 - 01:11 pm
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Sounds like the complaints when a barrier was placed

in the middle of the Gordon Highway. I bet some of you remember that! The concrete median rather than a turn lane might be in order so that so much private property will not have to be condemned. If you go South from Tobacco the trailer parks are very close on the left and single family dwellings are very close on the right if my memory serves me.

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countyman 12/24/12 - 01:40 pm
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Open Curtain.... The Windsor

Open Curtain.... The Windsor Spring rd project was included in the TSPOLST list of projects.

The construction is going to be one of the largest(consist of two phases: Tobacco rd to Willis Foreman rd & Willis Foreman rd to the city limits of Hephzibah at Hwy 88), and one of the first to break ground.

The Saint Sebastian project was constructed by the GADOT, and the same people always mention the project because it started before Windsor Spring rd.

What areas of downtown is South Augusta helping revitalize? The Laney Walker neighborhood is located outside of the CBD, and the money is coming from local tourist and not taxpayers.

Local taxpayers are paying for the revitilization of the Dover-Lyman area in South Augusta for example.

It's also funny how West Augusta, Summerville, Forest Hills, etc are so much richer, but somehow South Augusta is paying for everything downtown lol.

countyman
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countyman 12/24/12 - 01:56 pm
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Several amenities on Windsor Spring road

''An 8-foot-wide, multi-use trail will be added on both sides.''

The Diamond Lakes regional Park is located right off Windsor Spring road. The almost 300 acre park includes a volleyball court, library, playgrounds, walking trails, gym, tennis courts, 6 acre park, baseball/softball fields, outdoor basketball court, picnic areas with tables and grills, fishing ponds, horseshoe Pits, etc.

The overwhelmingly majority of the fastest growing neighborhoods and new home construction in South Augusta are located within a few minutes of Diamond Lakes. The multiple Walton subdivisions, Lakes at Spirit Creek, etc.

I'm positive the new road construction will only bring new residential and commerical developments to the area(specifically along Willis Foreman rd) similar to Spring Creek Village.
http://appweb.augustaga.gov/planning_zoning/plazid_display.asp?zID=4349

rebellious
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rebellious 12/24/12 - 02:04 pm
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Uncharacteristically Negative

Is Countyman going on the offensive? A new tact for 2013, perhaps.

These limited breaks between lanes are the current, safest manner to allow traffic to crossover or change directions. Personally, if some residents of a trailer prk are inconvenienced, I don't care.

As for us not jumping up and down on this article, when read it is not exactly a positive one about the changes. We also have been waiting for how many years for this project? I will be elated when the doziers start moving dirt. I was enthused when I saw survey markers a year ago.

As for what South Augusta does to fund downtown revitalization....It's called TAXES!

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 12/24/12 - 06:13 pm
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Roundabouts

I second Open Curtains suggestion about roundabouts. They should be applied where appropriate.

Two-lane roundabouts are a little scary when you first try; but when you practice, they can be navigated readily.

OpenCurtain
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OpenCurtain 12/24/12 - 06:38 pm
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CountryMan, Rebellious and Others

CountyMan
The Windsor Spring widening project planning was started about
2 YEARS before the TSPLOST was even voted on. The last few
holdouts in Hephzibah were finally sold on the idea, about 2-4 months before the election, if memory serves me correctly. So while TSPLOST "may" pay for about 15% of it now. The Planning, land purchases (phases 1 - 4) and etc. were started long before TSPLOST was voted on, an narrowly approved.

BTW: TSPLOST funds according to plans will be mainly used DOWNTOWN. Example: 100% of $9,149,610 for the 5th st. Bridge repairs and upgrades is covered by TSPLOST.

USING THE Windsor Spring Project (Phases 4+ & 5) example:TSPLOST only covers about 15% or $6M of the $43+Million? 85% is State GA-DOT Funds.

Plus then there's that well known Slush Fund called Local Discretionary Funds. DOUBT THESE STATEMENTS?

THEN SEE: http://chronicle.augusta.com/data/tsplost_projects2?appSession=598234186...

Rebellious & Others
As far as the Concrete dividers, I hate them they are butt ugly.
But, they save the taxpayers LOTS of $$$$$.

Guessing out-loud.
The days of GA-DOT Grass dividers in their planning seem to be long gone, at least on the South Side.

The Augusta Death Road (HWY 56) is also getting the concrete dividers I was told by a GA-DOT Rep. in 2010.

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