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New mission for former Augusta candidate Rick Allen, others

Monday, Oct. 29, 2012 7:13 AM
Last updated Tuesday, Oct. 30, 2012 1:45 AM
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ATLANTA — A pair of unsuccessful congressional candidates have taken up a new challenge that may be even more daunting than running for office.

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Last week, Rick Allen, of Augusta, who barely lost the Republican nomination in the 12th District, and Martha Zollar, edged out of the GOP nod in the 9th, announced they had teamed up to lead the Campaign to Fix the Debt.

Two legislators have joined them, Rep. Ben Harbin, R-Martinez, and Sen. Josh McKoon, R-Columbus.

Harbin has some experience as the first Republican chairman of the Georgia House Appropriations Committee in 13 decades, but House Speaker David Ralston cut him loose from the post, leaving Harbin in a position to be as candid as he wants.

McKoon, still a freshman, started off being candid by sponsoring legislation to prohibit legislators from accepting gifts from lobbyists. Although the leadership in the House and Senate eventually came around to his position after an overwhelming straw poll during the primary, they didn’t get there joyfully.

The co-chairmen also bring another quality: time.

“We both have a little time on our hands right now,” Allen said. “She was run off, and so was I.”

Besides coming up short in close contests, Allen and Zollar have the perspective of having touched base with a lot of people recently.

“We both know a lot. Let me tell you: You travel the 12th District, and this is on everyone’s mind,” he said.

Fix the Debt aims to organize in key states in an effort to apply a grassroots squeeze to those who are in Congress during the post-election, lame-duck session and President Obama.

“If they’re pressed by their constituents, then you’ll see action,” Allen said.

It’s not that the president and members of Congress don’t at least give lip service to reducing the deficit, Allen said. It’s that no one agrees on the solution.

Democrats call for raising taxes on upper-income Americans. Republicans, such as Allen and Zollar, demand that spending be cut.

Fix the Debt is a bipartisan group aligned with the Concord Coalition that champions the Simpson-Bowles plan for coordinated spending cuts and tax increases through the elimination of deductions.

Allen said that only Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney’s plan of spending cuts would satisfy him. That’s because he thinks everyone who isn’t poor and too disabled to work should pay something in taxes.

“I don’t think we have poor people in this country, I’ll be honest with you,” Allen said.

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soapy_725
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soapy_725 10/29/12 - 07:23 am
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Just go to get into politics....
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Just got to "dip his beak" in the pond. Why would a Christian want to get involved with a lying criminal organization known as "the beast" in the Bible. Must be the money. Yep, the money, the power, the influence for more money and power.

hwduncan
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hwduncan 10/29/12 - 07:51 am
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Wow!

I am astonished to learn we don't have poor people in this country. The implication is that there is no need for assistance to anyone at any level: no need for food stamps, medicare and medicaid, Social Security. I imagine a few churches, the Salvation Army, and other social organizations like the Golden Harvest Food Bank will be pleased they no longer need scramble for resources to aid a non-existent poor. The War on Poverty is over! Cake, anyone?

NrthAugustaSam
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NrthAugustaSam 10/29/12 - 07:54 am
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Talk about Etch a Sketch!

And to think I voted for Allen..... Glad he lost now. Voting for Barrow definitely.

Retired Army
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Retired Army 10/29/12 - 08:02 am
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“I don’t think we have poor

“I don’t think we have poor people in this country, I’ll be honest with you,” Allen said

Jeez, to think that the racists in his own party left themselves the choice of Lee Anderson. Maybe they really did do all of us a favor.

Mr. Allen, any Christian has heard that the "Poor shall always be with us".

And, I'm not just talking about poor in spirit either, although the very denial of the fact that there are the poor right here in this district, let alone America should tell all of us what a "poor' choice you would have been.

JRC2024
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JRC2024 10/29/12 - 08:34 am
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I acknowledge that there are

I acknowledge that there are poor in this country but alot are poor because of their habits and their refusal to stick to a job. They think that someone else should support them. Maybe Mr. Allen didn't say it right but he is on the right track to try and get programs cut and make people work. There are job out there they just have to find them and be willing. Help the truly disabled and sick but not the people that can work . The government just gave an employee total disability because he broke his wrist and has been on workers comp for a year. He is now waiting for a settlement from the insurance company but he can play golf but can't hold a hammer. Total nonsense. The US is full of people like that and they are draining our tax resources.
Wake up and look around you, they are everywhere.

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jeff scott 10/29/12 - 08:26 am
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Get Off Your Self-Indulgent High Horses

89% of "poor" households have TVs; 52% have PCs; 79% have some heating/cooling; most have access to some health care; few are actually homeless. Compare all this to Hoover's or Roosevelt's days, since they started this ever growing giveaway. Medicare, SocSec do not fall into this because most pay into, its insurance - not a handout. People are ALWAYS the same, every generation, give them a path to do less work , less effort, and they'll take it. The numbers don't lie. I'm insulted that I have to work so much for unappreciative losers who do not know how good they have it, or else they do, they just keep sucking it up.

JRC2024
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JRC2024 10/29/12 - 08:32 am
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Jeff, You could not have said

Jeff, You could not have said it any better.

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MarinerMan 10/29/12 - 08:36 am
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Poor, and there's "Poor"
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You nailed it JRC. I believe that there are some poor people, but there are a lot more "poor" people. And I think that is what Rick was trying to say. "Get a grip people"!! If you can get the baby-mommies and baby-daddies off their butts, and get to work, there would be less "poor" people.

justthefacts
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justthefacts 10/29/12 - 09:37 am
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Jeff Scott

Nice job.

my.voice
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my.voice 10/29/12 - 10:37 am
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the REST of the story?

I dont pretend to completely undersrtand Mr Allen's comment, but it could very well have been taken out of its spoken context. That said, if indeed we have 47% (or something close to that number) of our population who truly pay no taxes, them something IS wrong. Why should 53% support the whole from a tax burden standpoint? As my grandfather used to say, everyone can do something. Of course, he wasnt speaking about taxes, but you get the idea.

Again, I am not speaking from an expert point of view, political, or otherwise. This "mess" in government is so much bigger than democrat or republican and the "fix" is even larger. Truth is, its never going to be fixed. America, in many respects, is bankrupt and just waiting for the wheel to finally come off.

I would really like to have the entire transcript of the conversation being quoted here posted......as this is presented, its obvious it is not.

kls2014
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kls2014 10/29/12 - 02:38 pm
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How is it that Rick Allen has so much time on his hands?

Shouldn't Rick Allen be supporting Lee Anderson and doing whatever he can to help defeat Barrow like he promised throughout his campaign for Congress? If he kept his promises, he wouldn't have so much time to spare. I hope that everyone sees this for what it really is. Mr. Allen has already started his bid for Congress 2014.

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soapy_725 10/29/12 - 02:40 pm
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another scam to make money, not for the poor
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People actually get very rich in America speaking on behalf of the legitimate poor and hungry. Some others become very rich speaking on behalf of Jesus and His constant need for more property and buildings.
Some are becoming rich speaking on behalf of wounded soldiers.

Fools rush in where wise men fear to go. Am I fool number one, or am I fool number two, how many others have been fooled by YOU.

soapy_725
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soapy_725 10/29/12 - 02:42 pm
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Even NAMBLA
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has a 501(3) tax exempt status. "Man Boy Love". Just like the church. If Sanduski had been an alumni, he would still be at home.

slowpitch
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slowpitch 10/29/12 - 04:02 pm
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How does Obama keep getting a pass on this?

Fact check: **even if you taxed every single cent of earnings/income for every millionaire in the United States, it would not cover our annual deficit**

Of course this ignores the horrible consequences of such a policy. But it clearly shows how absurdly false the notion is that "if rich paid their fair share" everything would be alright.

Large, meaningful spending cuts are required. It's math. How about we start asking Democrats to live in reality.

Crime Reports and Rewards TV
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Crime Reports and Rewards TV 10/29/12 - 08:42 pm
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Richest poor on the planet...

Compared to THE REST of the WORLD no American is without resources & in many cases can pick up their phone for susidized help including being given a phone to call with in the first place. As pointed out there are resources here few other countries have. (You'll notice the best help is brought to you by the free enterprise system that is smart enough to tithe a portion of proceeds back to the communities in the form of charitable donation deductions.) Love this crew or hate this crew SOMEBODY has to grab the Bankrupcy bull by the horns before it finishes goring our position as world currency provider. The SECOND the "Basket of Currency" scheme is pulled off by Europeans to solve their life and death debt problems is the second your money becomes almost worthless ala Pre War Germany... We better wish this crew smooth sailing as their percentage of chance of success in heading off U.S being REAL poor overnight is ticking away by the second:o)

PS This is something that could happen before the end of this year:o(

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glfr8 10/29/12 - 09:43 pm
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As others have previously stated,

the poor (generally speaking, there are exceptions) in the United States are substantially better off than those in other countries… The UN definition of poor is someone living on less than 2 dollars a day some regions in the world have over 75% of their pop living on less than $1 a day (extreme poverty). I know Mr. Allen has gone on multiple mission trips to countries like Moldova and Honduras, those are poor countries. Also, as to supporting Lee Anderson, I am not sure if I were running and a competitor ran a slanderous and libelous ad calling me a felon I would probably stay neutral.

augustarepublican
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augustarepublican 10/29/12 - 09:50 pm
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As someone who has known Rick for awhile-

I believe this is not the entire quote-- I imagine he prefaced it with his mission trips.

Techfan
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Techfan 10/30/12 - 05:15 am
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Having a tv and a fridge

Having a tv and a fridge means you're not poor? Dang, I bet they have clothes too.

JRC2024
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JRC2024 10/30/12 - 06:26 am
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If you worry too much about

If you worry too much about those that are poor and will not work you will end up poor yourself. They always seem to survive on your dollar.

Techfan
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Techfan 10/30/12 - 07:15 am
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Fact check:

Fact check: If you took the net worth of the top 400 richest people in the US, you could cover the deficit of $1.3 trillion. It would bring in a total of $1.37 trillion.

On the same note, if you took the net worth of the bottom 100 million Americans, it would bring in $1.26 trillion.

(2010 figures. For 2011, the top 400 went up to $1.68 trillion. I can't locate the amount for the bottom 100 million, but by all indication, it went down.)

bubbasauce
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bubbasauce 10/30/12 - 09:32 am
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Is that the Jeff Scott I

Is that the Jeff Scott I know? You go man! Hit the nail on the head.

D D DOG
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D D DOG 12/30/13 - 09:28 am
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Wake up people,another Allen
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Wake up people,another Allen is in the mix. don't forget what our Tax commissioner (K Allen) has done to us. Vote all Allen's out...Please

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