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I SAY LET ALL UMCs in the Augusta District pitch in and get them out of the red. You see more news printed in the Advocate about Paine College than any other church or organization.

HAVE PEOPLE IN Augusta forgotten that they spent all that money on the river back in the ‘80s? People in Augusta don’t support stuff like that. Why waste taxpayers’ money? Don’t build anything else down there that will go into dilapidation like the riverfront has.

THE COMMENTS BEING made about Robert Moody shooting his son: He is a good man who came from a good family. Nothing was more important to Robert and his wife than their home and their family. For those who say you are Christian, you know that God is the only one who can judge. And for the rest of you who have something smart to say about this couple who are going through hell right now, maybe you need to sweep around your back porch and leave theirs alone.

I REALLY ENJOYED THE article about the restoration of the flag pole at ASU. It was well written, but I don’t think 23 “carrots” gilded that knob.

RAVE FOR AIKEN COUNTY police and the Good Samaritans who helped me when my purse was stolen. Due to their quick response I was able to retrieve my purse and my belongings. I want to thank everyone who helped me.

WHAT A BLESSING to have people like the two who responded speedily to my call to 911. A thousand thanks for their compassionate help.

IF MY 15-YEAR-OLD daughter wanted to leave the house until 1 in the morning to go to a party, I would have stopped her also. Creflo Dollar should not have gone to jail. That is part of the problem with these young children now. They can call 911 and the parents can be picked up for trying to make sure their children are doing the right thing. I agree children should not be hit with a hand or fist. Get a belt and beat their butts. That is what the majority of them need now.

WHY DO PEOPLE IN Columbia County drive 30 miles round trip to North Augusta to save a nickel on gas?

RANT TO THOSE who text while driving. You are as dangerous as a person driving under the influence of drugs or alcohol, and your fine and punishment should be comparable.

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Jake
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Jake 06/21/12 - 09:50 pm
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Slapping down

The old man used corporal punishment when he felt like he needed to and it was effective. Other times there were other methods. There was not a punishment I received that I did not deserve. He was an equal opportunity punisher for myself and my 6 other siblings.
The issue here is what does the school system allow for this type of behaviour. If she did the face to face thing with the kids then maybe, I suggest maybe, she could have saved herself a lot of grief. I don't know and neither do you. It is all speculation at this point. I would have handled it differently but then again I would not last long as a bus monitor.
I appreciate your views even if I don't always agree with your view point. You state your case well and it is up to us like or dislike them, learn from or ignore them, laugh or tsk,tsk them. This is what makes this forum on the AC interesting. I think all in all the discussions here are very good natured.

Jake
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Jake 06/21/12 - 09:58 pm
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Kids

I have two sets of children. The first ones were from 1969 & 1970. They were subject to the corporal punishment of a paddling on the rear end until they reached the age when that was not feasable. It served it's purpose at that time but at some point you just don't do it anymore because of age. That was not the only form of punishment, there were others like deprivation of privledges, etc. How did you punish your children, assuming you have some.

harley_52
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harley_52 06/21/12 - 09:59 pm
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Jake said....

"The issue here is what does the school system allow for this type of behaviour."

Not really. The real issue is....do adults have the capacity to be adults, or do they allow the children to decide how they should behave? Does the current crop of adults meet the challenge their predecessors have met, or does society fall into chaos because they simply can't hack it?

CobaltGeorge
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CobaltGeorge 06/21/12 - 10:01 pm
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Jake

I'm with you on this one...every words you typed. You the man on this issue.

harley_52
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harley_52 06/21/12 - 10:06 pm
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Jake asked....

"How did you punish your children, assuming you have some."

I have two. Both in their forties. Both girls. Both college graduates. Both living successful, happy lives.

I did not beat them. I didn't even spank them. I made it clear to them that I would, if necessary. I looked them in the eye, spoke clearly, and put the fear of god into them whenever necessary.

Mine were not perfect children, in terms of behavior, at all times. But they were polite, honest, sincere, hard working, and self-assured. They always knew they could count on me for support, but they also knew I would accept no bad behavior. When I heard from their school that they had caused a problem (which happened only once or twice) they knew it would be a bad day for them. And it was.

I'm proud to say we still have a great relationship and they remain the light of my life.

Jake
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Jake 06/21/12 - 10:12 pm
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Harley's point

I can see the point about adults stepping up to be adults. I just don't know what the local protocol is for this situation because she is, after all, an employee of a school district, is she not? And if so they are libel for any action she may take. I think maybe a lack of training for these types of circumstances could also be to blame.

Jake
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Jake 06/21/12 - 10:21 pm
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Harley 10:06

That's a beautiful thing. Maybe your best.

Georgia1964
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Georgia1964 06/21/12 - 10:25 pm
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The streets of Augusta Bleed Red

A BIG RAVE to Dr. Mason, administration, faculty, and staff of Lucy C. Laney High School. When was the last time your principal and teachers showed up at your door??? How about yesterday...a sea of red shirts converged on the neighborhoods of East Augusta and Harrisburg yesterday about 2:00 in the hottest part of the day. The faculty and staff where polling the community about their perception of Laney, what they can do differently to educate the youth of the community, and checking on their students. At first, I thought my eyes were deceiving me, but they weren't. What a way to connect to the community. Cudo's Dr. Mason and staff!!

harley_52
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harley_52 06/21/12 - 10:21 pm
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Jake said....

"I just don't know what the local protocol is for this situation because she is, after all, an employee of a school district, is she not? And if so they are libel for any action she may take. I think maybe a lack of training for these types of circumstances could also be to blame."

My point all along.

She had no business being a bus monitor. She lacked the ability to do the job. She was incapable of handling unruly children. She should not have applied for, or been hired for, the job of bus monitor.

If you were incapable of operating a router or a mitre saw, should you apply for, or be hired for, a job as a cabinet maker?

If you were hired and failed, should citizens donate $125,000 because they pitied you? If they did, what would be the message they sent?

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Tots 06/21/12 - 10:25 pm
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My two cents,

About the bus monitor and the the incident was -where was the driver and why did the bus driver allow the behavior to carry on that long on the bus? The monitor made a statement that this was not the first time the kids had messed with her and she hadn't wrote them up....Big mistake there....Those kids looked at her as being weak and they acted like dogs going after a wounded animal....

Jake
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Jake 06/21/12 - 10:27 pm
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Bus Monitor

And my point is that when a person applies to be a Bus Monitor and they are accepted into the program/job, then it is reasonable to expect they would be properly trained on how to deal with these types of situations. So how would she know if she was not capable of doing this job if, through training, she did not know what the job entailed?

harley_52
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harley_52 06/21/12 - 10:28 pm
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CG said....

"Jake.....I'm with you on this one...every words you typed. You the man on this issue."

Fair enough, CG. Choosing sides and voicing your support can be an admirable thing. I respect Jake's opinion and yours too.

Jake
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Jake 06/21/12 - 10:32 pm
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Tools

Operating a tool and dealing with antagonistic idiots are two different things. A mistake in one and you lose a finger, hand, etc., and the other you may get a law suit. Actually a possible law suit in both cases.

Tots
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Tots 06/21/12 - 10:34 pm
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Training ,

Of bus monitors in Richmond county goes something like this-NEVER TOUCH the child... It's a catch 20/20 you be Dang if you do and dang if you don't.... I will say this thebus monitor's job in richmond county is to help the driver keep the bus under control and to help see /hear things the driver may miss and a few other things ...But the driver is responsable for their bus.....

harley_52
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harley_52 06/21/12 - 10:40 pm
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You Missed The Point...

"Operating a tool and dealing with antagonistic idiots are two different things. A mistake in one and you lose a finger, hand, etc., and the other you may get a law suit. Actually a possible law suit in both cases."

The question was more to do with capabilities than it did with legalities.

I wouldn't hire an incompetent cabinet maker and as an incompetent cabinet maker, I'd never apply for the job.

Lawyers, or no lawyers....

Jake
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Jake 06/21/12 - 10:40 pm
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Hi Tots

I know you have driven the bus and your comment is pretty graphic.
How about eliminating buses (employment issue) and have every adult be responsible for having their get to school. You can car pool, with a little organization, or just be sure you make arrangements to do it your self.

Tots
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Tots 06/21/12 - 10:42 pm
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A good,

driver can sense when something is wrong on the bus by the way the students are acting and talking.... If you have a weak monitor and driver then the students will rule the bus......

Jake
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Jake 06/21/12 - 10:46 pm
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Capabilities

Re-read again my 10:27. How do you know if you are not capable unless you are trained in this area? Was she given a full briefing about what to expect from students on the bus? I don't know and neither do you.
Tots, thanks for your input from your experience.

Khan'tB4Real
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Khan'tB4Real 06/21/12 - 10:47 pm
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Lol & I hear ya River ... I
Unpublished

Lol & I hear ya River ... I hope those sins are not used as blackmail ... that would suck bad!

Tots
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Tots 06/21/12 - 10:53 pm
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Hi Jake,

That never touch a child rule is Bullcrap....What about breaking up fights? What about protecting yourself? My kids learned they could love me or hate me, but if they rode the bus they better follow the rules and do as i say....

Jake
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Jake 06/21/12 - 11:02 pm
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Buses

I remember in 1960 when Mr Key's bus stopped to let Ann Presley and Patty Feely out just so they could fight off the bus. We waited about a minute and it was over. Ann won. She was beautiful, blonde. Patty was fiesty, cute. Anyway, there were no monitors just the driver. Sometimes a kid would sit on the hump that housed the engine next to the driver and operate the handle to open and close the doors. In the winter it was a good place to sit. In the summer not so much.

Jake
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Jake 06/21/12 - 11:07 pm
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Fashion

Now this was back in the day when girls wore dresses almost all the time. In the winter at Sue Reynolds Elementary School when it was very cold the girls would wear dresses but would have long pants under them. They didn't seem to have leggings back in those days.

Tots
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Tots 06/21/12 - 11:20 pm
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LOL Jake,

I had some great bus drivers,heck i was allowed to finish a few fights myself..I hated bullies and i went after them with contempt ....We can't allow the students to fight and sometimes that's just what they need to do,that one on one beat down or shut your mouth thing...Parents try to fight the kids fight for them...Most times it's the parents starting the crap...

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