Illegal immigrants numbers rise in Southeast

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ATLANTA  — When the Olympic Games came to Atlanta in 1996, a building boom transformed the landscape of downtown and brought with it an influx of Latino immigrants — both legal and illegal.

In the years since, the number of illegal immigrants living in Georgia has skyrocketed, more than doubling to 480,000 from January 2000 to January 2009, according to a new federal report. That gave Georgia the greatest percentage increase among the 10 states with the biggest illegal immigrant populations during those years. Many in metro Atlanta say the explanation for the boom is simple.

"It was because of jobs," said Kathy Brannon, who worked for the suburban city of Chamblee for nearly 30 years. "That's why people have come to this country since it started, for opportunity."

For years, Chamblee was the last stop for three bus companies carrying immigrants from the border city of Brownsville, Texas, said Brannon, the retired city manager. With cheap housing, easy transportation and an abundance of work, the immigrants put down roots and were quick to tell family and friends back home of the opportunities in the Atlanta area.

To get a better sense of how much the illegal immigrant population has grown in Georgia, consider that the state had just 35,000 of them in 1990, according to estimates by the Pew Hispanic Center.

Demographer William Frey of the Brookings Institution said illegal immigrants moved where they could find work in low-skilled fields like construction and the service industry, which were booming across the Sun Belt states along with higher-skilled jobs.

"In a way it could be a sort of badge of success to have a higher undocumented immigrant population" because it means the economy is strong, Frey said.

North Carolina, another fast-growing Southeastern state during those years, is also one of the top 10 states for the sheer size of its illegal immigrant population, estimated at about 370,000 in January 2009 as compared to 260,000 in 2000, according to the report by the Department of Homeland Security's Office of Immigration Statistics. The agency relied on data from the American Community Survey, a nationwide sampling conducted by the U.S. Census Bureau.

The large immigrant populations in Georgia and North Carolina are largely Mexican and undocumented, said Jeff Passel, a senior demographer at the Pew Hispanic Center.

As recently as the 1980s, Southeastern states — with the exception of Florida — had very few immigrants, legal or illegal, Passel said. California, which is still home to about 24 percent of the country's illegal immigrants, used to account for about 40 percent. Five other states — Texas, New York, Florida, Illinois and New Jersey — shared another 40 percent, he said.

But a recession in California in the early 1990s, and a ready supply of low-skilled jobs in other regions prompted immigrants to look elsewhere, especially the Southeast, Passel said.

Immigrants are vital to the economy in the Southeast, especially the agriculture, construction and service industries, said Jerry Gonzalez, executive director of the Georgia Association of Latino Elected Officials.

"It started with the Olympics. Atlanta would not have been able to finish the construction in time for the Olympics without immigrant labor, and specifically Mexican immigrant labor," he said. "After that, the housing boom that the Southeast experienced, and specifically Georgia, would not have been possible without immigrant labor."

The impact of illegal immigrants is tough to measure because they generally keep a low profile. But Passel said they are drawn by jobs, so most are employed and have income taxes and social security payments withheld from their paychecks.

While illegal immigrants are not eligible for welfare and many other public benefits, their U.S.-born children are, but they tend to underuse those services, Passel said.

Critics point to hospital emergency rooms, which must treat everybody regardless of their ability to pay, and public schools as places where illegal immigrants are a burden on local communities. Some also blame illegal immigrants for crime and driving down wages for low-skill work.

Nationwide, the report found that the illegal immigrant population grew 27 percent during the study period, though the numbers fell in the last two years. The population was 11.8 million in January 2007. It fell to 11.6 million in January 2008 and dropped to 10.8 million in January 2009. That coincides with the downturn in the U.S. economy, and demographers say the drop is likely to be temporary.

"If you look back over the last 20 years, the inflow of undocumented immigrants goes up and down with the U.S. economy," Passel said.

A rough economy hits illegal immigrants even harder than citizens and legal immigrants, he said. But once the economy rebounds, construction will pick up, as will the service industry, and illegal immigrants will return for those jobs.

Demographers expect the Southeast to bounce back faster than states like California, Nevada and Arizona. And they don't expect hostile attitudes or get-tough laws to keep illegal immigrants from coming back to Georgia.

"The only way you're going to get the illegal immigrant population in Georgia to go down is to legalize them or get rid of the jobs," said Dowell Myers, a specialist in demographic trends at the University of Southern California.

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lifelongresidient
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lifelongresidient 02/23/10 - 06:44 pm
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you will get rid of them if

you will get rid of them if employers were fined 25,000 per illegal and then 10,000 each day they were employed, using e-verify and link that to the ssn data base, eliminate all types of benefits from welfare, food stamps and education then make all illegal aliens felons, that would probably cure most of the illegal alien problem real quick

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MAnd130630 02/23/10 - 07:45 pm
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I agree 100%

I agree 100%

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johnston.cliff 02/23/10 - 07:50 pm
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Great! Not only does subsidy

Great! Not only does subsidy programs train potentially productive adults to sit around and make babies all day, but it draws illegals like flies. Thank you, vote buying government.

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southern2 02/23/10 - 07:55 pm
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It is never mentioned how

It is never mentioned how much the illegal's have contributed to our economic woes. They take jobs increasing our unemployment rate, create an underground economy bypassing taxes and social security, use medical and social services for free. No wonder our nation is broke.

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wizzardx1 02/23/10 - 08:02 pm
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Does anyone know the

Does anyone know the unemployment numbers for Georgia?

bentman
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bentman 02/23/10 - 08:09 pm
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Run off the illegals and the

Run off the illegals and the democrats will have to hustle some more votes.

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seenitB4 02/23/10 - 08:22 pm
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Wizzard The unemployment

Wizzard The unemployment rate is 10.3 % according to google.. the historic high for Ga.

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Chillen 02/23/10 - 08:27 pm
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To make matters worse they

To make matters worse they send a lot of the money they make back to Mexico or El Salvador, where they came from. It doesn't even circulate & benefit our economy.

Wizzard, GA unemployment was 10.3% at the end of December. Not sure what it is now, probably no better though.

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southern67 02/23/10 - 08:31 pm
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It's not just a matter of

It's not just a matter of fines for employers that needs to be implemented. Have you ever tried to report an illegal? Once you locate the phone number for ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) you have to listen to a recording that tells you, an American citizen, that any fradulent reporting will be prosecuted AND that any information you give will be followed up on at THEIR discretion. What a joke.

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dominionfs 02/23/10 - 08:45 pm
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The claim from the illegal

The claim from the illegal camp is that Americans won't work for the wages the illegals do. That is true, why would you go to work for 6 or 7 bucks an hour when you can make the same sitting on your butt getting welfare, wic, section 8, foods stamps and utility assistance etc. etc.? So what is the solution, as lifelong said, make it harder for illegals to work by instituting fines for employers, require the use of e-verify and cut back on the give-aways to the won't work folks so they will work.As Paul says in 2 Thessalonians 3:10 “… If anyone will not work, neither shall he eat.”

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dominionfs 02/23/10 - 08:49 pm
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The Bird Feeder I bought a

The Bird Feeder
I bought a bird feeder.. I hung
it on my patio and filled
it lovingly with seed... It was indeed a beautiful bird feeder.
Within a
week we had hundreds of birds
taking advantage of the
continuous flow of free and
easily accessible food.

But then the birds started
building nests in the boards
of the patio, above the table,
and next to the barbecue..

Then came the bird poop. It was
everywhere; on the patio tiles,
the chairs, the table ....
everywhere!

Then some of the birds
turned mean. They would
dive bomb me and try to
peck me even though I had
fed them out of my own
pocket.

And other birds were
boisterous and loud. They
sat on the feeder and
squawked and screamed at
all hours of the day and night
and demanded that I fill it
when it got low on food.

After a while, I couldn't even
sit on my own back porch
anymore. So I took down the
bird feeder and in three days
the birds were gone. I cleaned
up their mess and took down
the many nests they had built
all over the patio..

Soon, the back yard was like
it used to be ... quiet, serene
and no one demanding their
rights to a free meal....

Now let's see .......
Our government gives out
free food, subsidized housing,
free medical care, and free
education and allows anyone
born here to be an automatic
citizen.

Then the illegals came by
the millions. Suddenly
our taxes went up to pay for the
free services; small apartments
are housing 3 or more families; you
have to wait 6 hours to be seen
by a doctor in an emergency room
because it is filled with illegal non tax payers;
your child's 8th grade class is
behind other schools because
over half the class doesn't speak
English.

Corn Flakes now come in a
bilingual box; I have to
'press one' to hear my bank
talk to me in English, and
people waving flags other
than Stars and Bars are
squawking and screaming
in the streets, demanding
more rights and free liberties.

Its just my opinion but:
maybe, just maybe,
it's time for the government
to take down the damn bird feeder.

wyochuck
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wyochuck 02/23/10 - 09:06 pm
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hello from california. a

hello from california. a complete madhouse out here. 50% hispanics. in l.a. they are not just taking low paying jobs. they are getting $35 an hour welding on oil refineries. americans not even allowed to hire on.

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Riverman1 02/23/10 - 09:15 pm
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The Goths and Vandals are

The Goths and Vandals are coming over the walls, but no one cares enough to stop it.

wyochuck
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wyochuck 02/23/10 - 09:27 pm
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riverman1--explain more

riverman1--explain more please. do not understand your post. "goths and vandals"

wyochuck
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wyochuck 02/23/10 - 09:38 pm
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domionionfs.--right on the

domionionfs.--right on the mark

dominionfs
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dominionfs 02/23/10 - 09:46 pm
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wyochuck- Not the goths and

wyochuck- Not the goths and vandals of today. The Goths and Vandals were barbarian tribes that ravaged europe about 1 AD along with the Huns.

wyochuck
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wyochuck 02/23/10 - 09:57 pm
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dominionfs--you are off the

dominionfs--you are off the subject of illegal immigrants. the border patrol here-way out west is not catching hardly anybody. no work for them.

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disssman 02/23/10 - 10:16 pm
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I think it is time to re-set

I think it is time to re-set history as it pertains to welfare. Go back to 1950. Then if you had no food they gave you food from a warehouse. No money was exchanged to buy things with (no money available for the boy friend at the end of the month means he won't be showing up for a while). Housing was strictly projects and no one got any money to pay rent. That is the way to end it. But you know, there is so much money transfered to corporate entities (food stores, lottery, gas stations) that it will never happen. Further, Slum lords are making a killing renting section 8 at hugely inflated prices and I don't ever see that stopping. I think it will never change because there is just too much corporate welfare involved.

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KSL 02/23/10 - 10:26 pm
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wyochuck, do you really not

wyochuck, do you really not know who the Goths and the Vandals were? Please tell me that ain't so.

wyochuck
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wyochuck 02/23/10 - 10:26 pm
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disssman-too late for that,

disssman-too late for that, democrats spent their entire careers giving money to people too lazy or dumb to work. barack obama only wants to make it worse. go visit the augusta ghettos.--only drugs--crime

wyochuck
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wyochuck 02/23/10 - 10:31 pm
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ksl--maybe a bit dumb--too

ksl--maybe a bit dumb--too busy making gasoline and electrical power for you guys. back to my shift on the north slope of alaska next week.

KSL
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KSL 02/23/10 - 10:54 pm
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Not your fault. Fault of

Not your fault. Fault of public education. Thanks for what you do. Don't think you are dumb either.

wyochuck
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wyochuck 02/23/10 - 10:56 pm
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ksl- "goths and vandals" have

ksl- "goths and vandals" have nothing to do with this blog.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 02/23/10 - 11:00 pm
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Hey, Wyochuck, don't sweat

Hey, Wyochuck, don't sweat the small stuff. Thanks for what you are doing in Alaska. That must be something. I got off a plane in Anchorage once when I was in the Army and had to walk on the tarmac in minus 31 degrees.

But I was being a little vague with my post. The Goths and Vandals were the ones generally credited with sacking Rome.

You know I admire the Mexican work ethic, but the illegals bother me to no end.

wyochuck
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wyochuck 02/23/10 - 11:02 pm
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ksl-explain more-"fault of

ksl-explain more-"fault of public education". i graduated from the university of texas with a degree in petroleum exploration. i did not understand "goths and vandals".

KSL
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KSL 02/23/10 - 11:04 pm
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So what you are saying is

So what you are saying is that you did not have a course in world history in high school or college?

KSL
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KSL 02/23/10 - 11:08 pm
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No, I guess you are not

No, I guess you are not saying that. I bought into Riverman's metaphor. You did not.

wyochuck
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wyochuck 02/23/10 - 11:09 pm
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riverman1- you are right

riverman1- you are right about hispanic work ethic. they do work hard-and are basically good people. own a fishing boat in costa rica. hang around with them all the time. the mexicans are out of control-drug gangs-violent killings

KSL
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KSL 02/23/10 - 11:09 pm
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And being that it was a

And being that it was a metaphor, goths and vandals have everything to do with this thread.

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Riverman1 02/23/10 - 11:12 pm
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Wyochuch, I'm curious. Do you

Wyochuch, I'm curious. Do you have lots of Hispanics working with you in Alaska?

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