Rules put teen clubs on the spot

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Spurred by a double shooting at Club Platinum earlier this month, the Augusta Commission approved a set of ordinances Tuesday tightening oversight of teen clubs.

The new rules require proprietors to appear at public hearings before opening, rather than just filing forms and paying fees to the License and Inspection Department. Now they'll have to go before the commission, where neighbors, police and others can speak out. If trouble erupts at the clubs or in clubs' parking lots, the ordinances lay out a formal process for putting them on probation and suspending and revoking business licenses.

"These ordinances might have made a difference, might not have made a difference," Commissioner Jerry Brigham, who proposed them, said of the Club Platinum shootings.

On Feb. 7, a fight broke out inside the club off North Leg Road between rival gangs, Harrisburg Posse and Southside Boyz, Sheriff Ronnie Strength said. The groups were asked to leave, then gunfire broke out in the parking lot and two people were shot.

Sheriff Strength said there have been five shootings and one homicide at the club since December 2006, and the commission twice put it on 90-days probation. With some contention, the commission voted 6-3-1 to revoke Club Platinum's license Tuesday, with J.R. Hatney, Calvin Holland and Corey Johnson opposed and Betty Beard abstaining.

License holders Warren Johnson and Rakeim McMorris gave License and Inspection Director Rob Sherman a letter saying they wanted to voluntarily surrender their license because they couldn't come up with a solution to the crime problem.

Commissioner Don Grantham pushed for the license to be revoked so the owners would be barred from reapplying for at least a year. Mr. Holland asked that the club's license be suspended for six months, saying what happened Feb. 7 wasn't the owners' fault and that the trouble started in another parking lot and spilled into theirs.

His motion failed 4-6, with Joe Bowles, Mr. Brigham, Mr. Grantham, Joe Jackson, Alvin Mason and Jimmy Smith opposed.

"It's not him, it's the people that he attracts," Mr. Bowles, who has Club Platinum in his district, said of Mr. McMorris. "And I wouldn't wish this on any citizen of the county in their districts."

Reach Johnny Edwards at (706) 823-3225 or johnny.edwards@augustachronicle.com.

OTHER BUSINESS

On Tuesday:

- City Administrator Fred Russell gave commissioners an update on ongoing construction projects funded by the special-purpose sales tax. The new library is 20 percent finished, with a June 2010 target completion date; the judicial center is 3 percent finished with a December 2010 target completion date and the Webster Detention Center project is 4 percent complete with an August 2010 target completion date, Mr. Russell said. As for the Reynolds Street trade, exhibit and event center, pre-design work is 75 percent finished and the operating agreement is still being worked out. Mr. Russell said the TEE center's target completion date is August 2011.

- During a discussion of President Obama's stimulus package, Commissioner Don Grantham pointed out that of the 77-project, $417 million wish list of infrastructure projects that the city submitted to the state Department of Transportation, it has said it will recommend four for stimulus funds. The four projects total about $23 million, and one is the widening of Alexander Drive and its improved link-up to River Watch Parkway, Mr. Grantham said.

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patriciathomas
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patriciathomas 02/18/09 - 03:05 am
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You mean, until now the

You mean, until now the proprietors of teen clubs weren't responsible for any action by others taken on their property? Teen clubs were a responsibility free zone? Come on. No other type of club could get away with the "no responsibility" rule. Could the previous ruling be because all of the patrons at these clubs are the offspring of government subsidy momma's? It's good to see some attempt being made to straighten this enabling mess out.

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Craig Spinks 02/18/09 - 04:12 am
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Ms. Thomas, do you really

Ms. Thomas, do you really think that "all the patrons of these clubs are the offspring of government subsidy momma?" The enabling of deviant adolescent behavior is a phenomenon unique to neither one social class nor one race. Should you contest my view, please join me early some weekend morning at the Evans Waffle House. There you will receive an education courtesy of some of the "cool" mommas and daddies of Columbia County.

justus4
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justus4 02/18/09 - 06:57 am
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Georgia is a Republican
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Georgia is a Republican state. Republicans always want smaller government; less governmental control of people's lives; the less government regulations, the better they say; they love the small business owner and say, " get the government out of our way so our business can thrive", well this decision don't reflect those principles. There must be some double-standard going on because republicans speak & write their ideology all day on the non-minority airwaves & daily news operation, so somebody thinks it's true. But these actions violates all principles of the state's political rhetoric or does these principles apply only to certain groups? Oh, oh that's it. Because it appears that only certain people have the government interfere into their businesses. ("We" know who those peoploe are) And the reason is a classic one, "we gotta protect the kids" and public safety concerns are the chants. However, when a man was shot dead in a fast food establishment, nothing about shutting it down. When a person dieds in a traffic accident, nothing about shutting down highways. Yeah, yeah there are differences but the point is: Risks are involved in all things and this club is no different.

patriciathomas
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patriciathomas 02/18/09 - 07:56 am
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That must be some really good

That must be some really good crack justus4.

patriciathomas
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patriciathomas 02/18/09 - 07:59 am
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Craig Spinks, I've seen cool.

Craig Spinks, I've seen cool. I'm to old to be impressed. I'd rather see responsible. If you reread my post, you'll see my point was a question, not a statement of fact.

justthefacts
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justthefacts 02/18/09 - 08:50 am
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I agree with justis on this

I agree with justis on this one. Let the "partier" beware. If you want to risk getting your butt shot, head on over to the Club Platinum. Nature has a way of weeding out the dumb. Make the owners put up a big azz fence to keep the bullets inside the parking lot.

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devilishlymad67 02/18/09 - 08:53 am
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Just...I think it would be

Just...I think it would be more appropriate to state that Georgia is a state that will not tolerate certain classes of people to run rampart through its neighborhoods. Government can and should shut down ANY business that attracts a certain criminal element. And maybe just maybe if these kids that were causing these problems had better home training and a FATHER on site they wouldn't be looking for 'gangs' to fulfill their sad pyschological pitiful ego's. A true person of value realizes these gangs are nothing but snot from a sneeze that missed the kleenex.

patriciathomas
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patriciathomas 02/18/09 - 08:53 am
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justthefacts, you must have

justthefacts, you must have read a different post than the rest of us.

christian134
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christian134 02/18/09 - 08:53 am
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Too bad others prefer to opt

Too bad others prefer to opt for phrasing like "discrimination due to race, Republicans at the foundation of all teen violence, society(those people) made us shoot each other as well as "I am not responsible for what goes on outside my club like other club owners...We, who run these sort of clubs, should be exempt due to our elite status"...

pah4r
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pah4r 02/18/09 - 08:56 am
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justus4, you need to take the

justus4, you need to take the blinders off. Not everything is about black and white as you always wish to make it. Install metal detectors at the doors and bar for life any fool who comes to any club, gathering of people seeking to have a good time solely for the purpose to perpetrate no good. And if they still insist on doing these acts around civilized citizens arrest them and throw them under the jail. Today's thugs do what they do because they know all too well our bleeding hearts court system will only slap their hands and send them on their way to be repeat offenders.

pah4r
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pah4r 02/18/09 - 09:01 am
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all, why is it cool for teens

all, why is it cool for teens young adults to go around shooting one another and those present don't have the backbone to step up and identify the perpetrators.

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owensjef2 02/18/09 - 09:21 am
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I agree with Joe on this one.

I agree with Joe on this one.

justthefacts
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justthefacts 02/18/09 - 09:25 am
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Well, it was somewhat tongue

Well, it was somewhat tongue in cheek.

patriciathomas
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patriciathomas 02/18/09 - 09:51 am
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Oh, please excuse my density.

Oh, please excuse my density.

HYPOCRITES 08
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HYPOCRITES 08 02/18/09 - 10:34 am
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Mr. Bowles is correct on this

Mr. Bowles is correct on this one.

GSneed
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GSneed 02/18/09 - 10:35 am
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Stop bashing & blaming for

Stop bashing & blaming for just a minute and try suggesting some solutions, for a change. Poor parenting is at the root of this evil.

patriciathomas
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patriciathomas 02/18/09 - 10:43 am
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Mr Bowles is right, but

Mr Bowles is right, but misses the mark with his comment. The owner enforced no rules about who could come to his club and how they needed to act to be allowed to stay. While Mr McMorris didn't encourage the violent behavior, he did enable by providing the meeting place without adult supervision. It was all about the money. I think the hint may have been "teen club". Teens need supervision. They aren't adults and won't act like adults very often. Certainly not in this environment.

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sprintman 02/18/09 - 11:26 am
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Patriciathomas the club does

Patriciathomas the club does have adult supervision. The shooting took place not inside his club. But outside in the parking lot when the club was over. And as usual blame the parents. You don't even know the mother and father of these kids. I hope these same people are blaming Gov palin. For letting her daughter's baby daddy be a highschool dropout.

patriciathomas
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patriciathomas 02/18/09 - 11:37 am
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Sprintman, is Palin's

Sprintman, is Palin's daughter's baby daddy living off of welfare and other government subsidy from the taxpayer?(no) How is that comparable? (it's not)The little boys and girls still at the club after hours are trespassing while hanging in the parking lot. NO ADULT SUPERVISION. Who's responsible? Were the children run off or just abandoned, without supervision, to play in the parking lot? Sprintman, why do you twist facts to try to create a situation that doesn't exist? Why not stay on subject?

swagga
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swagga 02/18/09 - 12:21 pm
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Truthfully all of this could

Truthfully all of this could be avoided by the type of music you play.If clubs wold stop playing violent music you wiouldnt have these kids ready to kill each other, I mean play a little R. Kelly or Al Green every 5 to 6 songs and I bet they will calm down.I mean back in my day we would never fight because all the music made us want to get next to the prettiest best dancing girl we could find.We weren't worried about some dude and where he was from.Everything played in clubs now are about shooting, killing, and saling drugs, so I wonder why a kid would want to do this after hearing it all day and the all night in the club. As for the club owners, until they totally revamp their club and stop worring about how much money they make and start worrying about having someone where kids can come have a good time and get off the streets, they will continue to have violence in and outside of their club, and yes with the kind of music they play they are inviting violence into their club.So yes I do blame them.For example in my day we had club Tinted Windows, who played all the violent songs and they fought all the time there and the same kids went to Plum crazy who didnt play the violent

swagga
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swagga 02/18/09 - 12:23 pm
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music and we never fought

music and we never fought there....because they had a plan for keeping the violence out, the same for clubs 21 and older clubs now...just think about the clubs that have the violence in them and I bet they all play the same type of music....I know it sounds weird but really think about it..

Armywife
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Armywife 02/18/09 - 12:41 pm
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Betty Beard seems to abstain

Betty Beard seems to abstain a lot. Why? Did voters really elect her just to sit on the side lines?
Also, why do teens need nightclubs? Teens don't need to be out at all hours of the night.

jack
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jack 02/18/09 - 01:53 pm
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Mr spinks, it appears from

Mr spinks, it appears from news reports that the hooligans involved in these incidents were from Richmond County gangs. There may be gangs in CC, but if there is, we don't hear about them, so have to believe they are not the problem there that they are in RC. I say closing hours for "teen" clubs should be no later than 11PM.

jack
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jack 02/18/09 - 01:55 pm
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Justus4, keep on drinking

Justus4, keep on drinking that slavery juice you are on.

jack
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jack 02/18/09 - 02:01 pm
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Sprintman, your comment about

Sprintman, your comment about Gov Palin is a stretch (just plain BS). She ain't the boy's momma or he would not have been dropping out of school. Her daughter Bristol is still in school and looking to go to college. The only reason gang members get away with being in gangs is NO parental control/supervision (and usually no daddy to be found).

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i know 02/18/09 - 02:16 pm
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did anyone else hear that

did anyone else hear that there were more shootings at this club in the last few years than all of the other clubs in augusa combined. if that is true, i would say that this club is a problem and it should be sut down. if a dog keeps bitng you, you have to fix the problem and sometimes that means getting rid of the dog.

jackfruitpaper833
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jackfruitpaper833 02/18/09 - 02:39 pm
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patriciathomas thinks every

patriciathomas thinks every black person is on welfare and get stamps, he's a 58 year old WHITE man with a long pony tail *UGH* he's in that age bracket where his mind is seared along racial lines, it's in him, been taught to him. And he has a quota to make by posting to every subject everyday. Note: God is moving on him.

justthefacts
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justthefacts 02/18/09 - 03:08 pm
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"he's in that age bracket

"he's in that age bracket where his mind is seared along racial lines, it's in him, been taught to him." The same could be said about you jackfruit...except you might be female.

sprintman
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sprintman 02/18/09 - 03:50 pm
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Jack sarah palins daughter

Jack sarah palins daughter bristol palin baby's daddy is a highschool drop out. Deal with it. He's white trash that has no future. He got a 15 year old girl pregnant.

gnx
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gnx 02/18/09 - 04:01 pm
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Jack - there are several

Jack - there are several gangs in CC, but as you said, no one wants to make that information too public. RC had gangs and drive by shootings for years before that information was made public and look where it got them. People need to get their heads out of the sand, realize where the problem lies and find an answer to it, even if it's one that's not acceptable to the bleeding heart society. If they're in gangs then they're criminals. It doesn't make a difference if they have a record or not, if they don't then they haven't managed to build one yet, but they will eventually have a record. Craig - there's a Waffle House in Evans? Where?

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