Obama wins re-election

Tuesday, Nov. 6, 2012 7:55 PM
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WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama rolled to re-election Tuesday night, vanquishing former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and winning four more years in office despite a weak economy that plagued his first term and put a crimp in the middle class dreams of millions.

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President Barack Obama waves as he walks on stage with first lady Michelle Obama and daughters Malia and Sasha at his election night party.  ASSOCIATED PRESS
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President Barack Obama waves as he walks on stage with first lady Michelle Obama and daughters Malia and Sasha at his election night party.

"This happened because of you. Thank you" Obama tweeted to supporters as he celebrated four more years in the White House.

Romney telephoned the president, then spoke to disappointed supporters in Boston. In a graceful concession, he summoned all Americans to pray for the president and urged the night's winners to put partisan bickering aside and "reach across the aisle" to tackle the nation's problems.

After the costliest — and arguably the nastiest — campaign in history, divided government seemed alive and well.

Democrats retained control of the Senate with surprising ease. Republicans were on course for the same in the House, making it likely that Speaker John Boehner of Ohio, Obama's partner in unsuccessful deficit talks, would reclaim his seat at the bargaining table.

At Obama headquarters in Chicago, a huge crowd gathered waving small American flags and cheering. Supporters hugged each other, danced and pumped their fists in the air. Excited crowds also gathered in New York's Times Square, at Faneuil Hall in Boston and near the White House in Washington, drivers joyfully honking as they passed by.

With votes counted in 75 percent of the nation's precincts, Obama held a narrow advantage in the popular vote, leading by about 25,000 out of more than 99 million cast.

But the president's laserlike focus on the battleground states allowed him to run up a 303-203 margin in the competition for electoral votes, where the White House is won or lost. It took 270 to win.

Obama captured Ohio, Wisconsin, Iowa, New Hampshire, Colorado and Nevada, seven of the nine states where the rivals and their allies poured nearly $1 billion into dueling television commercials.

Romney was in Massachusetts, his long and grueling bid for the presidency at an unsuccessful end.

He won North Carolina among the battleground states.

Florida remained too close to call, a state where there were long lines of voters kept the polls open in some areas well past the appointed poll close time..

The election emerged as a choice between two very different visions of government — whether it occupies a major, front-row place in American lives or is in the background as a less-obtrusive facilitator for private enterprise and entrepreneurship.

The economy was rated the top issue by about 60 percent of voters surveyed as they left their polling places. But more said former President George W. Bush bore responsibility for current circumstances than Obama did after nearly four years in office.

That bode well for the president, who had worked to turn the election into a choice between his proposals and Romney's, rather than the simple referendum on the economy during his time in the White House.

Unemployment stood at 7.9 percent on election day, higher than when he took office. And despite signs of progress, the economy is still struggling after the worst recession in history.

There was no doubt about what drove voters to one candidate or the other.

About 4 in 10 said the economy is on the mend, but more than that said it was stagnant or getting worse more than four years after the near-collapse of 2008. The survey was conducted for The Associated Press and a group of television networks.

In the battle for the Senate, Democrats won seats currently held by Republicans in Indiana and Massachusetts.

In Maine, independent former Gov. Angus King was elected to succeed retiring GOP Sen. Olympia Snowe. He has not yet said which party he will side with, but Republicans attacked him in television advertising during the race, and Democrats rushed to his cause.

Polls were still open in much of the country as the two rivals began claiming the spoils of a brawl of an election in a year in which the struggling economy put a crimp in the middle class dreams of millions.

The president was in Chicago as he awaited the voters' verdict on his four years in office. He told reporters he had a concession speech as well as victory remarks prepared. He congratulated Romney on a spirited campaign. "I know his supporters are just as engaged, just as enthusiastic and working just as hard today" as Obama's own, he added.

Romney reciprocated, congratulating the man who he had campaigned against for more than a year.

Earlier, he raced to Ohio and Pennsylvania for Election Day campaigning and projected confidence as he flew home to Massachusetts. "We fought to the very end, and I think that's why we'll be successful," he said, adding that he had finished writing a speech anticipating victory but nothing if the election went to his rival.

But the mood soured among the Republican high command as the votes came in and Obama ground out a lead in critical states.

Like Obama, Vice President Joe Biden was in Chicago as he waited to find out if he was in line for a second term. Republican running mate Paul Ryan was with Romney in Boston, although he kept one eye on his re-election campaign for a House seat in Wisconsin, just in case.

The long campaign's cost soared into the billions, much of it spent on negative ads, some harshly so.

In the presidential race, an estimated one million commercials aired in nine battleground states where the rival camps agreed the election was most likely to be settled — Ohio, New Hampshire, Virginia, Florida, North Carolina, Wisconsin, Iowa, Colorado and Nevada.

In a months-long general election ad war that cost nearly $1 billion, Romney and Republican groups spent more than $550 million and Obama and his allies $381 million, according to organizations that track advertising.

In Virginia, the polls had been closed for several minutes when Obama's campaign texted a call for volunteers "to make sure everyone who's still in line gets to vote."

In Florida, there were long lines at the hour set for polls to close. Under state law, everyone waiting was entitled to cast a ballot.

According to the exit poll, 53 percent of voters said Obama is more in touch with people like them, compared to 43 percent for Romney.

About 60 percent said taxes should be increased, taking sides on an issue that divided the president and Romney. Obama wants to let taxes rise on upper incomes, while Romney does not.

Other than the battlegrounds, big states were virtually ignored in the final months of the campaign. Romney wrote off New York, Illinois and California, while Obama made no attempt to carry Texas, much of the South or the Rocky Mountain region other than Colorado.

There were 33 Senate seats on the ballot, 23 of them defended by Democrats and the rest by Republicans.

Democratic Rep. Chris Murphy, a Democrat, won a Connecticut seat long held by Sen. Joe Lieberman, retiring after a career that included a vice presidential spot on Al Gore's ticket in 2000. It was Republican Linda McMahon's second defeat in two tries, at a personal cost of $92 million.

The GOP needed a gain of three for a majority if Romney won, and four if Obama was re-elected. Neither Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada nor GOP leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky was on the ballot, but each had high stakes in the outcome.

All 435 House seats were on the ballot, including five where one lawmaker ran against another as a result of once-a-decade redistricting to take population shifts into account. Democrats needed to pick up 25 seats to gain the majority they lost two years ago.

Depending on the outcome of a few races, it was possible that white men would wind up in a minority in the Democratic caucus for the first time.

Speaker John A. Boehner, R-Ohio, raised millions to finance get-out-the-vote operations in states without a robust presidential campaign, New York, Illinois and California among them. His goal was to minimize any losses, or possibly even gain ground, no matter Romney's fate. House Democratic leader Rep. Nancy Pelosi of California campaigned aggressively, as well, and faced an uncertain political future if her party failed to win control.

In gubernatorial races, Republicans picked up North Carolina, where Pat McCrory won easily. The incumbent, Democratic Gov. Bev Purdue, did not seek re-election.

In a campaign that traversed contested Republican primaries last winter and spring, a pair of political conventions this summer and three presidential debates, Obama, Romney, Biden and Ryan spoke at hundreds of rallies, were serenaded by Bruce Springstein and Meat Loaf and washed down hamburgers, pizza, barbecue and burrito bowls.

Obama was elected the first black president in 2008, and four years later, Romney became the first Mormon to appear on a general election ballot. Yet one man's race and the other's religion were never major factors in this year's campaign for the White House, a race dominated from the outset by the economy.

Over and over, Obama said that during his term the nation has begun to recover from the worst recession since the Great Depression. While he conceded progress has been slow, he accused Romney of offering recycled Republican policies that have helped the wealthy and harmed the middle class in the past and would do so again.

Romney countered that a second Obama term could mean a repeat recession in a country where economic growth has been weak and unemployment is worse now than when the president was inaugurated. A wealthy former businessman, he claimed the knowledge and the skills to put in place policies that would make the economy healthy again.

In a race where the two men disagreed often, one of the principal fault lines was over taxes. Obama campaigned for the renewal of income tax cuts set to expire on Dec. 31 at all income levels except above $200,000 for individuals and $250,000 for couples.

Romney said no one's taxes should go up in uncertain economic times. In addition, he proposed a 20 percent cut across the board in income tax rates but said he would end or curtail a variety of tax breaks to make sure federal deficits didn't rise.

The differences over taxes, the economy, Medicare, abortion and more were expressed in intensely negative advertising.

Obama launched first, shortly after Romney dispatched his Republican foes in his quest for the party nomination.

One memorable commercial showed Romney singing an off-key rendition of "America The Beautiful." Pictures and signs scrolled by saying that his companies had shipped jobs to Mexico and China, that Massachusetts state jobs had gone to India while he was governor and that he has personal investments in Switzerland, Bermuda and the Cayman Islands.

Romney spent less on advertising than Obama. A collection of outside groups made up the difference, some of them operating under rules that allowed donors to remain anonymous. Most of the ads were of the attack variety. But the Republican National Committee relied on one that had a far softer touch, and seemed aimed at voters who had been drawn to the excitement caused by Obama's first campaign. It referred to a growing national debt and unemployment, then said, "He tried. You tried. It's OK to make a change."

More than 30 million voters cast early ballots in nearly three dozen states, a reflection of the growing appeal of getting a jump on the traditional Election Day.

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dichotomy
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dichotomy 11/07/12 - 10:05 am
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Nah, I'm not going to let

Nah, I'm not going to let this make me a racists....although I really am not looking forward to having to see Marion Williams on TV again. I'll let the Democrats be the racists because many of them are truly 100% motivated by race. The fact that Marion Williams is again a commissioner is a negative indicator for Richmond County and the quality of people available to serve...and a negative indicator for the mentality of the voters. Hey Marion, I've got some land out here that's big enough for a drag strip and a "concession" area for your relatives. Some people never learn and apparently we've got entire districts that suffer from that mental condition.

I am going to remain a staunch Republican fiscal conservative.....BUT the Republican party needs to make some changes. I've said it before, and I'll say it again......the Republican party has GOT to get over the abortion issue and has got to come up with a plan for immigration reform that makes accomodation for Hispanics who are already living here. You can seal the border, which we sorely need, but there has to be accomodation for those already here. If the Republican party doesn't do these things, and doesn't take that abortion plank out of the party platform, fiscal conservative Republicans will never win another presidential election.

Face it Republicans. Abortion is here to stay, has been decided by the courts, and is favored by the majority of women. Women outnumber men. If you make them angry you will lose the election. If you keep making abortion an issue and saying stupid things about rape you will never win another national election. The sad part is that us fiscal conservatives have nowhere to go and, because of abortion and birth control, things that have been around for decades, we lost the election and the taxing and spending will continue. Republicans who demand religion, abortion, and birth control remain as planks in the platform guarantee that the other side will be elected and funding for those things will expand. You might as well take out the gun and shoot yourself in the foot.

All in all, the election was a bust for people like me. I'm terribly disappointed for both the national and local elections. I will be curious to see how businesses react as full implementation of Obamacare approaches. I am curious to see how the people react when many full time employees become 30 hour a week employees and the rest are dumped into Medicaid. All I can say to like minded folks is take your money off of the table, protect your financial assets from the government, and look for things to get worse, not better, in Richmond County....particularly in South Richmond County. But I am in the minority....in many ways now.....so all I can say is "you want it, you got it, Toyota". Now ya'll can figure out how to pay for it all. It won't be from me. I've already moved things around to where you will not get an additional nickel from me. And if you are watching the opening of the stock market this morning, I think some other people are moving things around too. When your working hours are cut, your payroll Medicare taxes go up, and you have Medicaid insurance that no doctors will accept..... don't complain. The bright side is that there will be lots of birth control pills available and you can probably get a free abortion if you can find a doctor that takes the crappy insurance that uncle Obama is going to give you. What you are going to do for food and gas, I have no idea.

My congradulations to the Democrats. You, and the religious right wing of the Republican party, have defeated the financially responsible taxPAYERS and I concede the inevitable. Now I hope you have a plan to pay for it.

Fiat_Lux
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Fiat_Lux 11/07/12 - 10:21 am
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This is a freakin' disaster for all of us,

We have cursed ourselves, and it probably will cost us our nation's wealth and our freedom to practice our faith.

We are reaping what we have sown, and all of us are going to suffer because of our folly in thinking the laws that govern all of nature and that should direct all human actions somehow just don't apply to us.

There is a price to pay for the murder of innocents, and we've been doing that as national policy for almost 40 years. That's a lot of bad karma to work off. Obama and what he has and will do to us is part of the punishment. He champions the most horrible evil, yet somehow, that fact just didn't matter to enough of us to rid us of his ability to cause us even more damage.

Gird your loins, those of the household of faith, whatever that faith. It's going to get very bad for people like us before very long.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 11/07/12 - 10:10 am
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Well dichot we can take

Well dichot we can take solace that after four more years of ineffective and unsuccessful leadership we can say-I told you so=and you can't blame this on Bush. hee,hee,hee.

Fiat_Lux
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Fiat_Lux 11/07/12 - 10:11 am
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Sorry, Dichotomy, but I think you're wrong

What is the good of electing Republicans, or conservatives for that matter, if it costs you your soul?

CobaltGeorge
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CobaltGeorge 11/07/12 - 10:22 am
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My Comment

about calling myself a Racist has been pulled. It hasn't been a day yet and the 1st is beginning to vanish.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 11/07/12 - 10:27 am
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Well the ignorance is

Well the ignorance is sublime. It makes no sense. Obama after four years has left the economy, healthcare, foreign policy all in shambles. He has been the worse president within my lifespan by all factual measures of median wage lose, more poor, slow recovery, etc. etc. etc. And yet he is so cool, and like-able (just like Bush OMG) that he gets re-elected even after one failed policy after another. Its bizarre or just plain ignorance of the masses. I predict that the wealthy will just work less to keep under 250K tax hike-which will force the govt to add over 100K with increased taxes which will continue to drive the economy down. However my bet is Obama wil let all the Bush tax cuts go and raise everyones taxes because it's patriotic, and he has to have more money for more stimulus, more businesses for him to pick to support-venture capital by us, more expanded govt. That is what America wants -obviously-More and less transparent govt (Obama least transparent of any president), more taxes (because as a Dem you support more taxes for all), more stimulus and bail out-likely Calif and NY as pay offs for support, more expanded govt, less freedom (because Obama has already spoke how he thinks we have too much freedom and it's a problem. This is the America that, at least, half the populace supports.

Bantana
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Bantana 11/07/12 - 10:27 am
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The handwringing is really without basis

The current administration has done nothing to diminish the importance of religious faith. Our President has spoken many times about the teachings of Christ and the need to use those teachings as a blueprint for how our nation should reach out to those in need, which is without question, absolutely the most fundamental tenet of Christian theology.

They said he would take your guns, they said he was a Muslim, they said he wasn't born in the United States, they said he was a black radical intent on bringing down America. Well...they, were wrong. So keep looking for those school records and birth certificates while our country desperately needs you to urge your representatives to get cracking on getting our economy humming again and get off the hideous, partisan- posturing that has paralyzed our country for nothing more than pandering to obsessed, close-minded and illinformed citizens.

dichotomy
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dichotomy 11/07/12 - 10:29 am
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Retired Army..."and lo and

Retired Army..."and lo and behold, the sky is still there".

Yes, the sun came up. However, the stock market is WAY DOWN. That sucking sound you hear is money moving off of the table and out of reach of dividend tax hikes. The next sucking sound you hear will be workweek hours for many falling from 40 to 30 and their Medicare payroll taxes going up.

Yes, the sky is still there...but you DID notice that it is overcast and drizzling didn't you.

You won the battle but that is because you have not fought the war yet. The economy is still bad, the debt is still high, the spending is still out of control, gas is still high, groceries are still up 25%, health insurance is way up, and if my guess is correct about what investors are going to be doing for the next month or two, revenue will be going way down next year.

Good luck with your victory. Let me know how well your car runs on free birth control pills and if they taste good barbecued.

Augusta resident
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Augusta resident 11/07/12 - 10:32 am
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Romney was right

Those 47 million on the gravy train didn't vote for Romney. Don't raise rich peoples taxes to my level, lower my taxes to their level of 15%!!!!!!!Raising their taxes does nothing for me, I don't live off of tax payers. Lowering my taxes helps me. Otherwise I'm not going to donate to charity or leave good tips anymore.

Bantana
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Bantana 11/07/12 - 10:35 am
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RA

Thanks for that bit of humor. It's obviously a bit easier for the left to smile this morning. And I do know how the right is feeling today. But let's get off the doom and gloom train and call our representatives and let them know that we want progress, not pandering to scared folks that don't have an honest grasp on the trully important issues surrounding our economy and a rational approach to national security.

CobaltGeorge
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CobaltGeorge 11/07/12 - 10:36 am
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Yes

Augusta resident, you are about to see a no shot fired silent revolution!

Bizkit
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Bizkit 11/07/12 - 10:37 am
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Who is "they said". You mean

Who is "they said". You mean Madonna who calls him a Black muslim??? Most of hollywood believes he is a black muslim socialist-at least that is what they have vocally supported. Just like the Communist Party USA supports Obama because they believe he is a socialist. You just can't make this stuff up-I'd laugh if it wasn't so sad.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 11/07/12 - 10:42 am
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How can you have progress

How can you have progress with half the populace diametrically opposed to the tenets of the other half of the population. No matter the choice you will alienate and anger half the population. Learn to speak spanish is the best recommendation I can make because USA will soon be USLA for Latin America. It is evolution-back in 50's over half had blue eyes now 80% have brown eyes-because of hispanic immigration. African-americans, european men and women will go the way of the dinosaur in this country. At least that is what scientist predict-just like Europe will be muslim. You can't beat evolution.

Bantana
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Bantana 11/07/12 - 10:45 am
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so sad

to read some of the comments here that express a total loss of hope and a mean-spirited wish for failure over the next four years is disheartening. what would that falure accomplish? would it make you feel better to say, "see i told you so"? do you have no shame, or any honest feelings for the well-being of our citizens and our country? come on people let's work together.

CobaltGeorge
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CobaltGeorge 11/07/12 - 10:50 am
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Never

"come on people let's work together."

I will never work with anybody that has the goal to "Destroy America!"

CobaltGeorge
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CobaltGeorge 11/07/12 - 10:58 am
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No Shot Fired Revolution

Watch the unemployment rate and the Stock Market in the coming weeks.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 11/07/12 - 10:59 am
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Ask the Prez if he has any

Ask the Prez if he has any shame. Because he couldn't run on his record he ran a negative campaign base on fear and lies. I don't want America to fail but the White House site already predicts he will add 4 trillion in new debt the next four years. He has already hinted at more stimulus-which he doesn't know how to apply. Seems he is making the problem worse-by his own accounts. I hope I'm wrong-but logic and facts seem to support my concerns.

dfcrutch
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dfcrutch 11/07/12 - 11:17 am
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It's Time To Move On

I feel so sorry for all you bitter people who think you know it all.... Wonder what you would be posting if your guy had won? Get over it! Let's support our President and come together as one nation blue/red blended together. What's wrong with you people..... Can you not see beyond your hate?

nofanofobama
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nofanofobama 11/07/12 - 11:18 am
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a sad day for american we

a sad day for american we have reached the proverbable number of 50 percent plus one..no longer can our republic survive when the takers control election..jack kennendy has rolled over in his grave..the mayan calender really ended 11-6-12 and so has a once proud hard working productive country that was the envy of the world..we are now has beens...

Bizkit
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Bizkit 11/07/12 - 11:33 am
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Complain about a once great

Complain about a once great country in ruins and now you're a hater. I've heard it all. I don't know it all but I am eduated and seek information for myself to make educated choices-That is not the norm-Obviously. It defies logic. I guess I'm in good company with all the progressive who wanted Bush and Cheney's head with all the hate speech against Bush his last four years. A bit of hypocrisy eh. I wonder will the Rep mimic the Dems trying to impeach em the next four years like they tried to do with Bush. I guess what goes around may come around. My bet Libya first-which could signal his resignation.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 11/07/12 - 11:32 am
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So I guess if you're a Rep or

So I guess if you're a Rep or Independent who bashes Obama you're a hater, but if you demonized,hated, and wish the worse for Bush or Cheney you're a patriotic america??????????????????????????

rebellious
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rebellious 11/07/12 - 11:35 am
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On average

America is OK. Kinda like having your feet in the freezer and head in the oven.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 11/07/12 - 11:35 am
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Somebody's head will fall

Somebody's head will fall over this Libya fiasco. I know Hillary took the first hit but if she plans on running for office again she won't take the blame. The Clinton's still have too much clout that she will be removed from office and she may sell the prez out.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 11/07/12 - 11:50 am
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If Mitt Romney had ordered

If Mitt Romney had ordered the assassination of an American citizen without due process you can bet the Dems would have impeachment hearings. It doesn't matter they are terrorist-it is the rule of law like for Gitmo detainees. Seems the GOP could pursue hearings on both the murder and Libya. I have to admit the Rep stink at politics-they were defeated by strategy -not truth.

InChristLove
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InChristLove 11/07/12 - 12:55 pm
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specsta, in reality, there is

specsta, in reality, there is no majority. Approximately 55.8 million were hoping for a new direction out of this pithole, and approximately 57.7 million have their heads in the sand, impressed by a good looking movie star wannabe, and can not see the future for having their eyes shut and heads swooning.

"dismissed the "bless the wealthy" ......you best bless the weathy because what's going to happen when the well runs dry....who do you suppose this leader is going to come looking for on payday? Keep your hands in your pocket cause it won't last long.

Fiat_Lux
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Fiat_Lux 11/07/12 - 01:52 pm
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Bantana, have you really just not been paying attention?

Do you not have a clue why there are more than 30 (as is, more that THIRTY) lawsuits pending in federal court filed by Catholic entities (you know, like Catholic hospitals and schools and social services/charity organizations) because ObamaNonCare will force them to provide insurance that includes coverage for procedures and practices prohibited by the Catholic Church?

Do you not understand what that means? Here; let me try to parse it out for you. It means, Bantana, that Catholics will be forced to provide artificial means of birth control when the practice of artificial birth control is forbidden by the Catholic Church. Some of those artificial birth control agents are specifically designed to cause the miscarriage of an implanted embryo--in other words, an abortion.

Most Christians don't pay any attention to that, and a discouraging number of so-called Catholics blow it off as well.

Nevertheless, you should understand that it violates, first, the separation of Church and State (ie, the state is telling church entities that they MUST violate the tenets of their faith). Secondly, the federal government, via ObamaNonCare, is set up to punish/fine/imprison Catholics for actually living out the tenets of their Faith, tenets that forbid the use of artificial birth control and abortion, including making those available to anyone else.

We can leave until later a discussion of what ObamaNonCare holds for us regarding euthanasia and withholding of care for the elderly and disabled. This doesn't even touch a host of other violations of our Constitutionally guaranteed freedoms.

But, then again, today's Americans seem less and less to deserve the freedoms that came at such a high cost in blood and lives.

Fiat_Lux
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Fiat_Lux 11/07/12 - 01:50 pm
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DFCRUTCH, you really are kidding, right?

Do you not have any clue why people will not just "move on" with Obamessiah? The man is the worst thing to happen to the United States since 9/11, and he is light years beyond 9/11 in terms of the damage he has already caused.

I just cannot believe the simpering, clueless comments being posted, as if another four years of this horrible man as president was no big deal at all. You grandchildren won't believe you when you tell them what your childhood was like.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 11/07/12 - 02:32 pm
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Well I hope half of you are

Well I hope half of you are happy that you have assured with all impunity your kids and grandkids will paying for the debt incurred the next four years-4 trillion Obama promises on his website. Already Harry Reid is talking about raising the debt limit-you can't reach 20 trillion without removing any stumbling blocks. This will assure your future offspring will be paying unbelievable taxes for all of their lives, with little hope of any success or a modest wage. You people outta read every once in while what your candidate proposes. He plans to raise everyones taxes eventually just the wealthy first-that is absolute. Really if any of us are patriotic we would want to let the Bush tax cuts subside and everyone start paying their fair share to lower our debt. But without the govt curbing spending then all you do is raise more for them to spend.

CobaltGeorge
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CobaltGeorge 11/07/12 - 02:35 pm
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In Year 2020,

can you hear this conversation from the youths of today asking their Parents or Grandparents.....Please, Oh Please tell me why you let things happening to me which is so different then what I read about the way America was?
They may get an answer like...I voted for color just like you are. Sorry,
I was only thinking of myself back then.

or

I didn't accept known Facts and Past history like I should have. I just thought you would have a better life by being controlled and supported by a government that promised everything.

Fiat_Lux
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Fiat_Lux 11/07/12 - 02:40 pm
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He is absolutely going to kill our economy

The dependent class will love it--until they've consumed everything we have and are forced to go it on their own.

Government is going to expand like the plague that it is, and just wait until you see what Obummer has in store for your take-home pay! You're just going to love it, all you brilliant voters who sent him back to the White House.

It's a good time to look for ways to trim every bit of fat out of your budget, unless of course another 20-40% out of your paycheck still will leave you well within the margin of comfort.

If you wanted socialism and Marxism, by golly, you're gonna get it! (Hope you enjoy it when your loved ones are refused decent medical care and when you can't afford something you really need. Oh, and get prepped to deal with natural disasters on your own as well, because OboyAren'tWeWonderful has every intention of gutting the military--and retiree benefits as well.)

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