Augusta Mormons welcome chance to address questions, perceptions

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J. Vaun McArthur, president of the Augusta Georgia Stake of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, says Mitt Romney's run has caused a surge in interest.  MICHAEL HOLAHAN/STAFF
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J. Vaun McArthur, president of the Augusta Georgia Stake of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, says Mitt Romney's run has caused a surge in interest.


The political spotlight directed at Republican pres­i­dential candidate Mitt Rom­ney, a Mormon, and The Church of Jesus Christ of Lat­ter-day Saints is probably a good thing, according to local members of the faith who say they welcome the chance to answer questions and address misconceptions about Mormons.

The church maintains a strict policy of political neutrality. That’s because the church’s mission is to preach the gospel of Jesus Christ, not to elect politicians, said Melissa Posey Loose, the director of public affairs for the Augusta Georgia Stake of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Members are encouraged to vote and are allowed to participate in campaigns or stump for candidates. Some do, but not necessarily for the candidate people assume.

Derrick Johnston is a surgeon-in-training at the Medical College of Georgia and a member of the church. He lives in North Augusta with his wife, Rebecca, and two children. If he can get away from work Saturday, he plans to vote for Ron Paul in South Carolina’s GOP primary.

“I meet a lot of people at the hospital who ask about the church because of the exposure it’s been given. It’s interesting. They ask, ‘Are you going to vote for your Mormon buddy?’ ” said Johnston, who is 30 and a Utah native. “It surprises them that I’m not voting for Romney. I have nothing against the guy. I just don’t agree with his politics.”

‘I’m a Mormon’

Two months ago, Johnston created an online profile at Mormon.org as part of a national media campaign called “I’m a Mormon,” which launched in October. The campaign uses television ads, billboards and member profiles to give the public a glimpse into the lives of Latter-day Saints around the world.

Johnston is one of several church members in the Augusta area to participate in the campaign.

“I think it breaks a lot of stereotypes,” Loose said. “I hope that it shows that we, in so many ways, are just like everyone else.”

Many Mormons feel misunderstood and discriminated against, according to a new survey by the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life.

Nearly half of Mormons say they face discrimination in the U.S., according to a Jan­uary survey of more than 1,000 Mormons. Six in 10 said Americans as a whole are uninformed on Mormonism.

Christian faith?

While Mormons nearly unanimously describe Mor­monism as Christian, a third of Americans disagree. A No­vember study, also from the Pew Forum, found that 32 percent of the American public says the Mormon faith is not Christian. An additional 17 percent said they weren’t sure.

The same study asked an open-ended question about what one word best describes the Mormon faith. The most common response was “cult.”

One of the reasons Shan­non Bonham joined the “I’m a Mormon” campaign was to battle misconceptions. The Evans woman converted to Mormonism 26 years ago.

“I really love to talk to people about the church,” she said. “It has made a huge difference in my life.”

Bonham, 46, is an education major at Augusta State University who is student-teaching U.S. history at Evans High School as she completes her degree. She sings for the rock band the Vellotones and plays guitar with Group Ther­apy.

When Georgia’s Republican primary rolls around March 6, Bonham says she’ll likely vote for Romney.

“When people get to know Romney and people in the church, they go, ‘Oh, I share those values,’ ” she said. “But some people aren’t going to take the time to find out what he really believes, or what any of us really believes. His faith is only a liability if people don’t understand it.”

Bonham says the perception that bothers her the most is that women are suppressed in the church.

“Some people assume wo­men do not have a choice. I can tell you, as an outspoken woman, it’s not true,” she said.

Surge of interest

With repeated media exposure, some think acceptance of Mormonism is on the rise. Nearly two-thirds of Mormons surveyed by the Pew Forum said Americans are becoming more likely to see Mormonism as part of mainstream society. Mormons make up about 2 percent of the American population, with 6 million members across the country.

There are approximately 40,000 Mormons in South Car­olina, but that’s only a fraction compared to the numbers of other groups, such as Southern Baptists, which claim nearly 20 times more adherents.

J. Vaun McArthur, the president of the Augusta Georgia Stake of the church, has spent his week fielding media calls and traveling to television stations in South Carolina. He was appointed to speak on be­half of the church in South Car­o­lina, as the Augusta Stake spans portions of the state, including Aiken.

He says the church experienced a similar surge of interest during the 2002 winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, and in 2008, when Romney made his first presidential run.

With each interview, Mc­Arthur takes the opportunity to stress the church’s stance of political neutrality.

“While we’re grateful we’re in the spotlight, we’re hoping they’re looking at what we offer as a church, instead of what we provide in terms of political candidates,” he said. “We feel very strongly that our message is Jesus Christ and nothing else.”

THE BELIEFS

Members of the The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints hold some beliefs distinct from Christianity as practiced by Protestant, Orthodox or Roman Catholic believers, but almost all Mormons consider themselves Christians.

• Mormons believe in Jesus Christ as savior. Before entering the world, he was known as Jehovah, the firstborn spirit child of God and the elder brother to all people. He became Jesus after being born in a physical body to Mary.

• Mormons do not believe in the Trinity. God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Ghost are three distinct personages with their own roles in eternity. Both God and Jesus have bodies of flesh and bones.

• Mormons believe some early saints including Joseph Smith and Brigham Young were called by God to practice plural marriage. The church ended the practice of polygamy in 1890.

• Baptisms for the dead are performed by church members in temples across the globe. Those individuals can then choose to accept or decline the baptism in eternity.

• Church members tithe 10 percent of their income. The tithes are sent to Salt Lake City, with a portion returned to local congregations.

• Young adults participate in full-time missionary service, usually for a period of two years, wherever the church sends them.

• Mormons do not have paid clergy. The spiritual leader for each congregation, called a ward, is a bishop, which is a volunteer position undertaken by a member of the congregation.

• Mormons avoid tobacco, alcohol, coffee and tea, and illegal drugs, in accordance with the Word of Wisdom, laws for health Joseph Smith received from God in 1833.

THE HISTORY

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was founded in Fayette, N.Y., on April 6, 1830, under the leadership of Joseph Smith.

When Smith was just 14, he went into a grove of trees near his home in Palmyra, N.Y., and prayed about which church he should join. Mormons believe that God, the father, and his son, Jesus Christ, appeared to Smith. He was told that the church originally organized by Jesus Christ was no longer on the Earth.

Smith was called to restore the church and, over the next 10 years, was visited by angels and messengers, and received ancient scriptures written on plates of gold, which he translated into English in the Book of Mormon.

Today, the church has about 14 million members worldwide and is headquartered in Salt Lake City.

Source: Mormon.org

LEARN MORE ONLINE

Learn more about the “I’m a Mormon” campaign and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints at www.mormon.org.

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jic
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jic 01/20/12 - 08:58 am
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"diverse and welcoming"
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"diverse and welcoming" compared to what? Stepford?

saved by grace
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saved by grace 01/20/12 - 09:26 am
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Mormonism IS a false

Mormonism IS a false religion.

It denies that there is only one God. It believes that Jesus Christ is the "spiritual brother" of Lucifer. It denies the Holy Bible, God's word, by replacing it with the Mormon Bible. It teaches that the sacrifice of Christ on the cross is not sufficient for salvation. They believe in universal resurrection, where as, God's word teaches that salvation is through faith alone.

We are saved by the blood of Jesus Christ. That is the ONLY truth.

John 14:6
New International Version (NIV)
6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Dudeness
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Dudeness 01/20/12 - 09:26 am
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If Mormons are Christians,

If Mormons are Christians, then why do they try to convert Christians to Mormonism?

along_the_way
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along_the_way 01/20/12 - 10:50 am
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@saved by grace 1) It denies

@saved by grace

1) It denies that there is only one God.

Mormons believe in only one true God, his son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost. Ask any Mormon how many Gods there are and they will tell you only one true God.

2) It believes that Jesus Christ is the "spiritual brother" of Lucifer.

I've yet to hear anyone say that they believe that. It's not in any of the teachings, nor has it been said. That being said, if God see's "Lucifer" as a child since he created him, then yes, Jesus Christ would be his brother since they both come from the same Father. If however God does not see him as a child, then no, that would not be the case.

3) It denies the Holy Bible, God's word, by replacing it with the Mormon Bible.

There is no "Mormon Bible". There is The Book of Mormon, which is another testament of Jesus Christ. It does not replace The Holy Bible in the Mormon church. The Mormon church also does not deny any of God's words that come from The Holy Bible, in fact there is a lot of teaching that comes from The Holy Bible.

4) It teaches that the sacrifice of Christ on the cross is not sufficient for salvation.

This has always been the case, even in The Holy Bible. Man has commandments with God, and if they do not keep those commandments they are judged by that. Repentance allows us to wash away those sins so as they are not counted against us, this is part of the salvation given by Jesus Christ.

5) They believe in universal resurrection, where as, God's word teaches that salvation is through faith alone.

Not sure exactly what you are trying to get at here. If you believe everyone can be resurrected through faith, would this not be universal resurrection? Your wording here is quite ambiguous and has no clear meaning. If you could clarify exactly what you mean I would definitely share what insight I do have on the matter.

You should seek information, instead of trying to make a group of people out to be something that they are not.

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SBTBOTNT 01/20/12 - 10:58 am
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So......where are the gold

So......where are the gold tablets? We can produce many papers, documents that are older than the tablets. Perhaps the Church should show us this "revelation." Surely Joseph Smith thought it necessary to keep something that was SO historically important to all mankind? Again, if you have a moment, visit the exmormon.org website and read about the descendants of Joe and Brigham and see what they have to tell us about what their ancestors...

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hope7 01/20/12 - 11:02 am
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I lived amongst the Mormons

I lived amongst the Mormons and was invited in several homes during my time out west many years ago. I had women friends who were excamunacated from the Mormon church because they had developed a mind of their own. Most of the children I worked with who were Mormon had severe psychological problems due to how they were raised in the Mormon church. There are issues in the homes as to how women and children are treated which beg questioning for the good of their families. Maybe it has changed since the 80's but I know what I experienced and saw how these families suffered due to their Mormon beliefs.

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InChristLove 01/20/12 - 11:05 am
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John 10:30, Jesus says "I and

John 10:30, Jesus says "I and my Father are one"
Christians do not believe there are three individual gods who make up one Godhead as taught by the Mormons. We believe there is only one God who is made up of three individuals.

Romans 10:9-10 says "…if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you shall be saved; for with the heart man believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.

So if Mormon's claim they are Christian, when Christians base their faith on the teachings of God's Word, and that word says an individual must confess and believe that Jesus is Lord, how can someone else pray you into salvation and eternity with God?

Mormons might say they believe in God and Jesus but it is not the same God or Jesus that is taught in the Holy Word of God.

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saywhatagain 01/20/12 - 11:08 am
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Mormons are very good, moral

Mormons are very good, moral people, but Mormonism is a Christian cult because they deny that Jesus is God. Jesus said in John 8:24 "...unless you believe that I AM who I claim to be, you will die in your sins". Regardless of how "good" we are, without Jesus being God, we are all dead in our sins and the penalty is too awful to imagine.

InChristLove
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InChristLove 01/20/12 - 11:26 am
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"It teaches that the

"It teaches that the sacrifice of Christ on the cross is not sufficient for salvation." "This has always been the case, even in The Holy Bible"

I beg to differ:

"We have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. Day after day every priest stands and performs his religious duties; again and again he offers the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. But when this priest [Jesus] had offered for all time one sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God...because by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy" (Hebrews 10:10-14).

Once for all, one time sacrifice......

John 10:28 "I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand." Christ sacrifice IS sufficient for my eternal salvation.

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allhans 01/20/12 - 11:31 am
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. You people should know what

.
You people should know what you are talking about before posting. This is absolutley ludicrous.
My church doesn't teach that Jesus is God, either. God said "this is my Son of whom I am proud".
Many Baptist, Methodist, Catholic will teach Jesus the Son and God the Father.

See above by ICL "[Jesus] had offered for all time one sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God"

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InChristLove 01/20/12 - 11:37 am
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allhans, I'm curious if your

allhans, I'm curious if your church doctrine followings the teachings in the Bible as God's Holy Word. If so, please explain John 1:1 and John 1:14

John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God... 1:14 - And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us.."

This very scripture states that in the beginning God was the Word, and the Word (referring to His son) was with God, and the Word (Jesus) was God. The Word (Jesus/God) became flesh and dwelt among us.

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InChristLove 01/20/12 - 12:41 pm
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Sad that some don't know the

Sad that some don't know the difference in an intelligent adult conversation and an arguement. Oh and by the way, this imaginary friend, He only appears to those who listen to Him. Sorry if you can't see Him.

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dkbradshaw 01/20/12 - 12:51 pm
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Mormons believe exactly as

Mormons believe exactly as the scripture says... Jesus (the word) was with God in the beginning and He was God. He was the Jehovah of the Old Testament and became flesh as Jesus Christ. This does not make him God the Father however. Does this make more than one God? I believe 1Cor 8: 5,6 describes it very well. "Indeed, even though there may be so-called gods in heaven or on earth--as in fact there are many gods and many lords--yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist."

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Willow Bailey 01/20/12 - 01:03 pm
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ICL, I believe the Holy

ICL, I believe the Holy Trinity (The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit, separate, but ONE) is a concept that many struggle with primarily from a lack of spending prayerful time in the Word and the human tendancy to define God by man's standard and understanding. I have explained to some for hours to no end; and they were Christians, who really wanted to understand it.

I don't believe though, that it will keep anyone out of heaven as long as we have accepted salvation at the foot of the cross of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior, and abide in Him. Jesus is our salvation and there is no other path to heaven, but through Him.

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InChristLove 01/20/12 - 01:14 pm
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I agree Willow, our salvation

I agree Willow, our salvation is Christ alone. We may not understand it with our heads but we sure understand it with our hearts.

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saywhatagain 01/20/12 - 01:37 pm
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Argument is pointless, so

Argument is pointless, so present your case and let the reader decide. The Bible says "...but the natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised" I Corinthians 2:14. That's why folks like mister "grouse" (by the way, I love that handle Sir) believe we are nut cases.

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InChristLove 01/20/12 - 03:39 pm
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dkbradshaw, in 1 Corinthians

dkbradshaw, in 1 Corinthians 8:5-6, the apostles are speaking to the church of Corinth concerning pagans who had many gods, lords, and intermediate beings. Paul was reminding the Christians that it is not so with us. We have the Father abiding in the absoluteness of the divinity, and Christ who, become man, took the place and the relationship of Lord towards us. He took the position of Lord, but not the nature. Christ is still Lord God but on earth He took the position of our Savior. He didn't become another "god", He is God.

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SBTBOTNT 01/20/12 - 04:05 pm
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I can't help but wonder

I can't help but wonder again.....WHERE are the GOLD tablets? Something so priceless to all mankind on earth (and keep in mind he only found them in the 1800's....) I would like to see one. And if you have a little time do some research on Joseph Smith. He is quite the character. You might be surprised to read about his life BEFORE the Mormon Church.

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TypeO 01/20/12 - 09:18 pm
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LOL at professed "Christians"

LOL at professed "Christians" ripping the members of another faith.
The vast majority of Mormons I've met were more "Christian" (kind, loving, benevolent, tolerant, etc.) than those (like most of the posters here talking bad about Mormons) who drape themselves in the Bible, spewing verses and generally personifying the "holier than thou" cliché.
The name of their church is The Church of JESUS CHRIST, FFS, and you clowns say they aren't Christian.
And unlike you hypocrites, they don't talk crap about other religions or Christian sects, they just invite people to find out for themselves.
Like the guy earlier said, you should try researching for yourself, instead of relying on what you've heard or think you know.
And how is going to an EX-Mormon site going to give you a clear knowledge of Mormons?
That would be like asking the ex-spouse of a person for an opinion of that person.
I've been to a lot of churches, and the Mormons are a lot closer to what religion should be than most Baptist or other Christian sects are (Catholic, Methodist, Episcopal, etc.).
Oh, and like the article mentioned, their clergy are unpaid, unlike all these pastors who pass the plate - multiple times each service - and try to shame people into donating.
No, thanks.

Oh, and SBTBOTNT (saved by the blood of the New Testament) -
I do know this much...
You can only be saved by Jesus Christ.
The New Testament doesn't have any blood to save you by.
The Bible is an entire book, and picking and choosing which parts you choose to adhere to is way worse that what you accuse the Mormons of doing.

Just sayin'.

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freeradical 01/20/12 - 10:22 pm
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The true test of anyone

The true test of anyone seeking to attach themselves to Jesus Christ is

what do they say about the Jews , Israel and their future,and does

what they say jibe with what Jesus said?

And since we are talking about this in the political spectrum you better

know these answer to this because the Jewish vote represents a big

portion.

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InChristLove 01/20/12 - 10:48 pm
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"The name of their church is

"The name of their church is The Church of JESUS CHRIST, FFS, and you clowns say they aren't Christian.
And unlike you hypocrites, they don't talk crap about other religions or Christian sects, "

TypeO, talk about being a hypocrite! Who's "ripping" who?

No one is "ripping" anyone of their faith. Inaccurate explanation of biblical scripture was posted, those inaccurate explanations were corrected. Nothing unChristian or "ripping" about it.

As for salaries for ministers....do you expect them to work over 40 hours a week, tending to the needs of a congregation, hospital visits, visitation, counselling, sermon preparation and delivery, etc....and do it all for free. How do they support themselves and their familes. As for the Mormom ministers...if they do not receive a "salary" I'm sure they are supported finacially by their congregation. At least with ministers who receive a salary they pay taxes on it, as with ministers who are supported by their congregation I'm sure they do not have to report it as income, therefore no taxes they have to pay. Just a guess on my part about no taxes for Mormom ministers but I know for fact my minister files taxes.

I'm not sure which church passes the offering plate several times, but I believe I'd be finding another church. We pass the plate once, you are free to give or not to give, no guilt, no force. Tithing is a joy and a privledge and should never be required (which I take that in the Mormon church they are required to tithe 10% and all goes to the "big" church and then it is doled back to the little churches)

As for Mormoms, there are many individuals of the Morman faith that are wonderful people and strong in their faith. No one has denied that. You also have many indivduals of the Christian faith that are wonderful people and strong in their faith. Grouping all Mormoms or all Christians in a negative context does an injustice to the faith each group represent. You have good and bad in every group, and not just religious groups.

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bjphysics 01/20/12 - 10:53 pm
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howcanweknow 01/21/12 - 07:03 pm
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I spent many hours discussing

I spent many hours discussing this issue with Mormon missionaries. Great guys, and I learned much from them. But, after confronting them with the simple and consistent truth of the Bible -- and pointing out the many conflicts between the Book of Mormon, their Doctrines and Covenants, and the Bible -- they left my home in tears. They were confused and doubting their religion.

No, Mormonism is definitely NOT Christian. Anyone who believes that does not really understand the truth of Mormonism and the truth of Christianity as well.

I greatly admire the moral character of Mormons and their commitment to their system of belief. But, please don't ever confuse Mormonism with Christianity. They are NOT at all compatible. In no way is Mormonism a sect of Christianity.

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WP15 01/21/12 - 11:55 am
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ICL - I respect that your

ICL - I respect that your dialogue has been intelligent and not in attack mode like most on this site, however I don't feel there is such a thing as inaccurate explanation of scripture. You, me or anyone else explaining a scripture is our interpretation (or that of our church) of a scripture. Who is to say which person/church is reading it the correct/intended way...particularly when we are talking about a document that is so old and lots could have been revised along the way.

As far as a 10% tithe goes this comes from the Bible and is not a concept unique to Mormons but many faiths...some churches may overemphasize. Numerous Old Testament passages mention the tithe and the 10% amount and in 1 Corinthians Paul states that believers should set aside a reasonable portion of their income to support the church (most refer back to the Old Testament for this percentage of what is reasonable). Mormons are not kicked out of church for refusing to tithe they just believe that giving God the first 10% of your check means he will take care of the rest. My church is not Mormon and our New Years Day service addressed how we should all give God the first part of each day, the first day of each week and the first 10% of our pay.

And their clergy is NOT paid under the table they are simply volunteers. They have a much larger clergy (the bishop and a large group of elders and other volunteers) so the responsibilities are split up more and church clergy can still pursue paid work.

I'm not Mormon but much of my family is and we do consider it to be a Christian religion.

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howcanweknow 01/23/12 - 01:09 pm
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WP15, as the Bible teaches,

WP15, as the Bible teaches, interpretation of scripture is not up to popular opinion. When something is clearly stated in black and white -- and stated many times-- that pretty much settles the issue.

Here's the logic: The ancient New Testament documents are very clear that Jesus Christ is God who became flesh. He, along with God the Father and God the Spirit, are One God. There is only one God, not many. People like us cannot ever "evolve" up to godhood, like Mormonism teaches. That's blasphemy of the worst kind.

Mormonism denies this most fundamental tenet of Christianity. Therefore, Mormonism cannot be Christian. Instead, it is a corruption of the most basic of Christian doctrine.

It's just that simple, despite protestations to the contrary.

InChristLove
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InChristLove 01/24/12 - 01:58 pm
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WP15, thank you, I sincerely

WP15, thank you, I sincerely try not to attack other religions, but by the same token, if something is inaccurately spoken concerning the Word of God, I can not help but at least try and set the record straight. You stated “Who is to say which person/church is reading it the correct/intended way...particularly when we are talking about a document that is so old and lots could have been revised along the way.”
There are many skeptics who believe the Bible has been drastically changed over the centuries. It’s true the Bible has been translated in many languages, however, ancient manuscripts written in Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek have been reliably copied over the centuries.
Before the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls, our earliest Hebrew copy of the Old Testament was the Masoretic text, dating around 800 A.D. We also have the Septuagint which is a Greek translation of the Old Testament dated around the second century B.C. When text from these two are compared, even with the 800-1000 year gap between them, amazingly 95% of the texts are identical with only minor variations.
We have tens of thousands of manuscripts from the New Testament, found in Egypt, Palestine, Syria, Turkey, Greece, and Italy. With all of the massive manuscript evidence, you would think there would be massive discrepancies - just the opposite is true. New Testament manuscripts agree in 99.5% of the text. Most of the discrepancies are in spelling and word order. There are two passages that are disputed but no discrepancy is of any doctrinal significance (i.e., none would alter basic Christian doctrine).
There are only two reasons how such accuracy over a period of 1400 years of copying could be true and accurate. One is the scribes that did the copying had meticulous methods for checking their copies for errors, and two, The Holy Spirit made sure we would have an accurate copy of God's word so we would not be deceived.
The Mormons, theological liberals as well as other cults and false religions such as Islam that claim the Bible has been tampered with are completely proven false by the extensive, historical manuscript evidence. If you (meaning all of us) take the time to study the Word, pray for wisdom and understanding, and study the Greek and Hebrew meaning of words, then you can accurately understand what the Lord is revealing in His Word. There is only one way to interpret truth.

bjphysics
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bjphysics 01/24/12 - 02:43 pm
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I’d like to see a drinking

I’d like to see a drinking contest between the Mormons and the Pastafarians; winner faces off against the Catholics in the Super Swill.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster

howcanweknow
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howcanweknow 01/25/12 - 08:59 am
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What is ICL said is 100%

What is ICL said is 100% correct, and is the fact that all skeptics need to learn -- instead of just repeating the worn-out mantra that the Bible isn't reliable because it's been changed through the centuries. All the available evidence proves otherwise. But, if you repeat a lie long enough and loudly enough, people eventually begin to accept it as truth. Sad.

This is what Mormonism has done -- I know because that's exactly what the Mormon missionaries told me: "You can't trust the Bible because it's been corrupted -- except for the parts that agree with the Book of Mormon." How convenient for them.....

More direct verifiable evidence: The Dead Sea Scrolls contain the complete Book of Isaiah, written several hundred years B.C. (can't remember the exact date). If you compare that ancient text with our modern Hebrew text, the only variance is really just punctuation marks. It's more than 95% IDENTICAL to what we have today. That's amazing, incontrovertible PROOF that ancient texts can indeed be preserved accurately over the centuries.

So, the false religions that keep insisting today's Bible can't be accurate are just propagating a lie they've swallowed. Besides, if all the naysayers who so desperately want the Bible to be false could produce solid proof of corruption, don't you think they would have by now?

Guess what, naysayers have come and gone (and always will). The Bible still stands as the one and only true Word of God (and always will).

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