Complaint about Confederate flag on specialty Georgia tag

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ATLANTA — Georgia officials have once again approved a specialty license plate featuring the Confederate battle flag, angering an Atlanta-based civil rights group spokesman.

Georgia officials are releasing a specialty license plate featuring the Confederate battle flag, infuriating civil rights advocates and renewing a fiery debate. The Georgia Division of the Sons of Confederate Veterans requested that the state issue the new plates. A spokesman says it meant no offense and that people have a right to commemorate their heritage.  AP
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Georgia officials are releasing a specialty license plate featuring the Confederate battle flag, infuriating civil rights advocates and renewing a fiery debate. The Georgia Division of the Sons of Confederate Veterans requested that the state issue the new plates. A spokesman says it meant no offense and that people have a right to commemorate their heritage.

The Georgia division of the Sons of Confederate Veterans requested the new plate design, and the Georgia Department of Revenue recently approved it. The group's old plate had a small Confederate battle flag. The new one features an additional, larger image in the background that covers the entire plate.

Spokesman Ray McBerry said the group meant no offense and views the plates as a way for people to honor their heritage.

"We believe that everyone has the right to preserve their heritage," he said. "Southerners have as much right to be proud of their heritage as anybody else."

Southern Christian Leadership Conference spokesman Maynard Eaton told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution the state shouldn't have sanctioned the move.

"To display this is reprehensible," Eaton said. "We don't have license plates saying 'Black Power.'"

Gov. Nathan Deal said Tuesday that he was unaware of the plate.

"I hadn't heard that, so I don't know anything about it," Deal said. "I'll have to talk to them about it. I had no information in advance about it."

States that joined the Confederacy have taken different positions on the battle flag.

North Carolina, Alabama and Mississippi have specialty license tags that include it, according to The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Texas rejected an application to issue one on the grounds that it could offend some. The Texas Division of the Sons of Confederate Veterans sued board members of the Texas motor vehicle agency, and the case remains in court.

In Georgia, the Department of Revenue's motor vehicle division approves proposed designs for specialty plates. Agency spokesman Nick Genesi said the old design included the Confederate battle emblem and that organizations with existing plates were allowed to submit new designs since the state switched to a new type of flat, digitally-printed plate.

Genesi said any submitted designs must not violate copyright laws.

The plates are available for an initial cost of $80, of which $10 is directed to the Sons of Confederate Veterans.

The group on its website says the funds will be used to promote Southern heritage through educational activities and preservation efforts around the state.

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Pond Life
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Pond Life 02/20/14 - 07:55 am
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" I have never seen any stars
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" I have never seen any stars and bars lover protest the use of the symbol by the KKK and neo Nazi hate groups. "

Here ya go.....several people protesting here, right on this newspaper.

http://chronicle.augusta.com/opinion/letters/2010-11-04/klan-misuses-con...

seenitB4
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seenitB4 02/20/14 - 07:59 am
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The tipping point has been reached

We are offended too much in this country..it really has gotten out of hand...
You can over play a hand & it backfires on you...that is happening now...
yes, I like my sweet tea & would appreciate a car tag with Scarlett drinking her tea on a veranda at Twelve Oaks...maybe have that flaming red dress on ...yaknow, the one that Rhett threw at her..& have horses in the background..I would say mammy there too but so many would be OFFENDED by that...I liked all the characters in that movie.

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Bizkit 02/20/14 - 08:37 am
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Doesn't matter what it

Doesn't matter what it represents because it is right of free speech. The ACLU should be protesting the protest-because one of our civil liberties-free speech is being attacked by a group. We allow the communist party USA (they even supported Obama twice because they share the same goals and ideology) to exist and communism is responsible for some of the most heinous crimes in history. If we start banning things that
"some people" find offensive-there would be nothing left to ban in a matter of time-cause take one person freedom will produce retribution to take yours. We don't ban flags in the US-fact is you can defecate, urinate, and then burn it if you like-be it Old Dixie, Old Glory, or a Swastika.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 02/20/14 - 08:44 am
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Banning flags in America is

Banning flags in America is silly. It is unAmerican and unpatriotic. Lot of folks died for the freedom to fly a flag-not any particular flag-just the freedom. Y'all are missing the point-it isn't what is on the flag-but the "freedom to fly the flag". Our flag has changed through time. There are all sorts of African-America flags-should we ban those too because some people find it offensive that any group in America wouldn't identify themselves as Americans and support the American flag but want their own flag. Start banning flags will produce a hailstorm of banning flags-it would be discriminatory to ban any other than the US flag.

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nocnoc 02/20/14 - 08:46 am
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Another Blogger brought up and interesting point

Slavery existed for about 86+/- years ,under the USA.

Slavery only existed about 3 years 361 days under the CSA.

Since Northern Ship owners supplied the slaves and sold them at auction in the Southern harbor areas. Then we must criminally charge those NORTHERN SHIP OWNING Families as the Primary Offender.

The Stars and Bars represents the battles fought against Northern Federal Demands and the Southern Citizens willing to stand up again Federal vs State controls who fought and died doing so.

An as stated before,the Stars and Bars was a Battle flag was NOT the CSA national flag.

WHILE WE ARE ON THE PC BANNING WAGON
The list of names and places than should be deleted, would even have the PC crowd in a fit.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 02/20/14 - 08:46 am
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History is what it is so we

History is what it is so we can't change but we can learn from it. Suppressing freedom is what got us in trouble in the first place.

nocnoc
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nocnoc 02/20/14 - 09:08 am
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BTW: Learn Real History

Not the White Washed history.

Example:
http://slavenorth.com/

Another example of the North and Slavery
New Jersey finally end slavery in 1865 after the war ended.

When the Civil War ended, 19 of 24 Northern states did not allow blacks to vote. Nowhere did they serve on juries before 1860. They could not give testimony in 10 states, and were prevented from assembling in two or more on streets.

Some argue that Reconstruction IMPOSED Governments were not valid votes. Because they were literally made under threat of imprisonment.

But the point is SLAVERY was abused by BOTH SIDES.
BOTH sides made MILLIONS from Slavery.

The North is guilty of supplying the 500,000+/- Slaves brought into the USA, where is the Norths Remorse?

internationallyunknown
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internationallyunknown 02/20/14 - 09:34 am
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???

"There are all sorts of African-America flags..."
So, the Confed. Flag is a "white" flag?

Race War Brewing:
•Jordan Davis
•"Trayvon Martin"
•Alfred Wright (Jasper, Texas)
•Stand Your Ground Laws that work for some and not others

Generations of oppression has created the situation we are in now.
Generations of oppression has created the situation we are in now.
Generations of oppression has created the situation we are in now.

You can be naive if you choose to....its a "free" country....

Pond Life
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Pond Life 02/20/14 - 09:43 am
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"Stand Your Ground Laws that
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"Stand Your Ground Laws that work for some and not others"

Where did it work for some but not for others? Could you give an example or two?

Pond Life
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Pond Life 02/20/14 - 11:08 am
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And who did the defense work
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And who did the defense work for? Keep in mind that Zimmerman didn't use "stand your ground" as a defense.

Pond Life
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Pond Life 02/20/14 - 10:09 am
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And for the record, every
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And for the record, every defense that has been used has been successful for some, but not for others....so what is your point?

Dixieman
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Dixieman 02/20/14 - 10:14 am
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Holy.....!

73 comments on this? The most important issue of the day??
I think not.
I do think the answer to bad speech is more speech, not censorship, and hold that conviction firmly. 'Nuff said.

Echoes86
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Echoes86 02/20/14 - 11:53 am
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Just My Opinion 02/19/14 - 03:20 pm

Sorry I'm just replying to your question, but I would like for you guys to think about systematic racism for a moment. I'm not saying you as individuals are racist in any way, but do you not agree that there is still a cloud of racism over the country that favors whites?

If you don't, I challenge you to go think about it like this (someone else said this to me and it made me think).

Think if a black person made a YouTube video on a debatable topic. In most cases, what do you think would be discussed first in the comments section? Would it be the topic at hand or would it be the color of his skin? If you answered "topic at hand," then I think you're ignoring a problem that still exists in America. If a white man made a YouTube video on the same debatable topic, you're not going to see someone attack his race first. That's the point. Being black in America, you have to overcome a barrier.

I am a white person, and I hear the remarks my family makes about black people and it disturbs me. If people make racial remarks or comments, what's to prevent them from discriminating against them in the world? Black colleges are usually rooted in historical causes from being forced to be segregated, and I know white people that go to Benedict and Paine, so it's not like white people can't go. The other things are just because the entertainment world kind of leaves black people out for the most part.

The reason why there aren't white things like that is because white people kind of have those things already. We're represented in media, we have colleges that are 80% white people, history is almost entirely owned by white people (history is written by the victors and all that), etc.

Here's an analogy that may help you understand: It's like a male saying "why is softball for girls only? That's not fair!" I had a female relative play baseball all the way up till 9th grade (and she was awesome, and while legally she could be allowed to play baseball, the coach told her that she didn't belong out there. In response, she started playing softball even though she didn't like it as much.

See the comparison? Even though legally blacks and whites are all equal, that doesn't mean we all get treated the same. Hope that clarifies.

Pond Life
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Pond Life 02/20/14 - 12:01 pm
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I would disagree that there
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I would disagree that there is a cloud of racism that favors whites. Especially the systematic you mention. While there ARE whites who are racist against blacks, there are no laws that are racist against blacks. The same can not be said for whites. So your statement that legally whites and blacks are all equal, is not true either.

Pond Life
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Pond Life 02/20/14 - 12:02 pm
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"The reason why there aren't
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"The reason why there aren't white things like that is because white people kind of have those things already. "

What white people? Certainly not me.

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Fiat_Lux 02/20/14 - 01:24 pm
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Just because some people decide it's a symbol of

slavery and oppression doesn't make it one. I honestly don't give a rat's patookus if anyone--Burninator, OJ3 or Obummer himself--find it offensive.

That battle flag of the Confederacy represents a whole lot more than what any one group sees in it. Your view is not the more valid view than mine, regardless of how energetically it is being pushed down everyone's throat. Your view, in reality, exemplifies the kind of reductionist myopia that is turning our nation into an oppressive society and cultural wasteland.

And talk about intolerance. It's pretty one-sided these days and it almost exclusively comes from the LEFT, demanding that the liberal perspective be honored and given sway over any other.

Hogwash, and ignorance.

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bigj706 02/20/14 - 02:58 pm
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Well Lux that's your

Well Lux that's your PATOOKUS!! Choice and your thinking is the kind that keeps this country in the great backwoods!!

Pond Life
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Pond Life 02/20/14 - 03:18 pm
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Believe in freedom of speech,
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Believe in freedom of speech, even that that offends you is what keeps this country in the great backwoods? How is that bigj?

Echoes86
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Echoes86 02/20/14 - 03:24 pm
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Pond Life

What law discriminates against white people?

I think you should read my example as well because maybe that'll help you understand my feelings about it.

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corgimom 02/20/14 - 03:44 pm
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AFFIRMATIVE ACTION!

AFFIRMATIVE ACTION! Preferential hiring! Preferential admissions to colleges and universities! Quotas!

Employers that are afraid to dismiss minority employees for fear of racial discrimination lawsuits, when it really is just plain poor work or attendance or behavior!

I've seen that with my own eyes.

Pond Life
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Pond Life 02/20/14 - 03:46 pm
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Thank you Corgi....you saved
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Thank you Corgi....you saved me the obvious answer. we disagree a lot, but we are in sync on this one.

corgimom
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corgimom 02/20/14 - 03:46 pm
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"See the comparison? Even

"See the comparison? Even though legally blacks and whites are all equal, that doesn't mean we all get treated the same. Hope that clarifies."

No, that's called LIFE, and as a professional woman, I have been sexually discriminated against. Where's your compassion for women?

corgimom
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corgimom 02/20/14 - 03:49 pm
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There was more racial

There was more racial discrimination practiced under the flag of the United States of America than any other flag- as in, extermination of Indians- but I don't notice people wanting to ban THAT.

Just because somebody says it's a "symbol of slavery" doesn't mean that everybody thinks that. And nobody has the right to tell anybody that they can't honor their dead ancestors.

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jaymai 02/20/14 - 04:38 pm
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When the state of Georgia

When the state of Georgia starts losing revenue and jobs from them "Yankee Librals" who refuse to bring their dollars and jobs here because this state chooses to include in their brand a racist symbol of hate, I want some of you history professors to lecture these companies on states' "rats" and your "hare-tage", and see if they listen. And while you're at it, when the "Dawgs" start losing football recruits because their mommies and daddies don't share your view of what that symbol means to them, maybe you can convince Coach Richt to explain to these recruits and their families just how ignorant they are and how BET and HBCU's are the real racists. But then again, maybe the state has figured that if they sell enough of those plates, they could make up for their potential loses. We'll see.

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owensjef3 02/20/14 - 05:12 pm
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Nobody wants to ban anything,
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Nobody wants to ban anything, I think we are saying the government should not participate in something that is so offensive to so many. If you want that symbol they are many that can be purchase and put on you car or shirt or whatever.

owensjef3
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owensjef3 02/20/14 - 05:18 pm
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I'm glad you looked that up
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I'm glad you looked that up Pond. however It was too late to protest that in the 21st century, the deeds from 1865 to 1970 far outweigh that. We simply must stop being revisionist.

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Fiat_Lux 02/20/14 - 05:49 pm
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People who don't know or care about the Constitution,

the generational spongers and their elected enablers, and those who don't bother to give their offspring adequate moral formation are the ones who are making and keeping this country as a great back woods, bigj. It's not people like me.

I can't help but wonder what "choice" you are referring to.

Pond Life
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Pond Life 02/20/14 - 06:02 pm
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"It was too late to protest
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"It was too late to protest that in the 21st century, the deeds from 1865 to 1970 far outweigh that."

Well that's just great. It's good to know that there shall be no forgiveness....ever....because it's too late. Oh the tolerance of liberal racists.

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