Complaint about Confederate flag on specialty Georgia tag

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ATLANTA — Georgia officials have once again approved a specialty license plate featuring the Confederate battle flag, angering an Atlanta-based civil rights group spokesman.

Georgia officials are releasing a specialty license plate featuring the Confederate battle flag, infuriating civil rights advocates and renewing a fiery debate. The Georgia Division of the Sons of Confederate Veterans requested that the state issue the new plates. A spokesman says it meant no offense and that people have a right to commemorate their heritage.  AP
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Georgia officials are releasing a specialty license plate featuring the Confederate battle flag, infuriating civil rights advocates and renewing a fiery debate. The Georgia Division of the Sons of Confederate Veterans requested that the state issue the new plates. A spokesman says it meant no offense and that people have a right to commemorate their heritage.

The Georgia division of the Sons of Confederate Veterans requested the new plate design, and the Georgia Department of Revenue recently approved it. The group's old plate had a small Confederate battle flag. The new one features an additional, larger image in the background that covers the entire plate.

Spokesman Ray McBerry said the group meant no offense and views the plates as a way for people to honor their heritage.

"We believe that everyone has the right to preserve their heritage," he said. "Southerners have as much right to be proud of their heritage as anybody else."

Southern Christian Leadership Conference spokesman Maynard Eaton told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution the state shouldn't have sanctioned the move.

"To display this is reprehensible," Eaton said. "We don't have license plates saying 'Black Power.'"

Gov. Nathan Deal said Tuesday that he was unaware of the plate.

"I hadn't heard that, so I don't know anything about it," Deal said. "I'll have to talk to them about it. I had no information in advance about it."

States that joined the Confederacy have taken different positions on the battle flag.

North Carolina, Alabama and Mississippi have specialty license tags that include it, according to The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Texas rejected an application to issue one on the grounds that it could offend some. The Texas Division of the Sons of Confederate Veterans sued board members of the Texas motor vehicle agency, and the case remains in court.

In Georgia, the Department of Revenue's motor vehicle division approves proposed designs for specialty plates. Agency spokesman Nick Genesi said the old design included the Confederate battle emblem and that organizations with existing plates were allowed to submit new designs since the state switched to a new type of flat, digitally-printed plate.

Genesi said any submitted designs must not violate copyright laws.

The plates are available for an initial cost of $80, of which $10 is directed to the Sons of Confederate Veterans.

The group on its website says the funds will be used to promote Southern heritage through educational activities and preservation efforts around the state.

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grinder48
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grinder48 02/19/14 - 11:11 am
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Weary

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I get soooo tired of all the complaining. The news is overloaded about this group or that group complaing about being offended about this and that ... whatever it may be. Get over it!

seenitB4
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seenitB4 02/19/14 - 11:14 am
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I kinda like it

Move on & get another reason to gripe.....put Macolm X on your car & see if I care...a personal car shouldn't be bothersome to others.

owensjef3
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owensjef3 02/19/14 - 12:55 pm
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Not even a close comparison

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Not even a close comparison , it is an American Swastika period.

prov227
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prov227 02/19/14 - 11:20 am
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I sometimes find ...

the vitrol that comes out of the SCLC and NAACP to be offensive.

owensjef3
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owensjef3 02/19/14 - 12:57 pm
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F

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The 100 years of terror after slavery ended that flag represents.

corgimom
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corgimom 02/19/14 - 11:25 am
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What about the Sons of

What about the Sons of Confederate Veterans' civil rights, or don't those count?

seenitB4
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seenitB4 02/19/14 - 11:29 am
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Beauty is in the eyes --well yaknow

It represents the south---Gone With the wind--long plantation dresses--Rhett Butler---moonshine--Scarlett---sweet ice tea--verandas with tea cakes--Masters & golf ---big open fields---Big white houses....horses ---time gone by...... to some of us..it doesn't have a dang thing to do with slaves.

owensjef3
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owensjef3 02/19/14 - 11:31 am
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The state should not be

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The state should not be involved.

seenitB4
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seenitB4 02/19/14 - 11:32 am
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Pic of Rhett & Scarlett

I just wonder if some would gripe about a photo of those two on a tag...:)

seenitB4
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seenitB4 02/19/14 - 11:34 am
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State not involved??

Now that is funny...you want the state involved in every other part of our life....heh.

Fiat_Lux
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Fiat_Lux 02/19/14 - 11:42 am
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What utter BS

It is the battle flag of a sovereign nation that had the 4th largest economy in the world while it existed. If you don't like what it represented, which is far more than about slavery and black people, then just go live somewhere else. There are people whose family lost gallant men riding into battle under that flag and I quite frankly don't give a damn if someone with a century-old ax to grind doesn't like what they, out of own their narrow-mindedness, think it totally represents.

It's just not all about you, OJ3, or about your kin or friends. Reparations for slavery have been repaid a trillion-fold since April of 1865. The South was destroyed. The descendents of former slaves have been given--GIVEN--everything anyone could ever need to build a successful, independent, responsible, prosperous life. Many have, some spectacularly, and are a credit to our nation and a testament to the availability of the American Dream. Those who want to wallow in their bitterness and whine about how bad the past was and how unfair the present is are living their lives as spoiled, indulged children of a negligent parent such as the federal government has become to them.

In other words, GET. A. LIFE!

thauch12
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thauch12 02/19/14 - 11:43 am
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Dumb.

It's just another example of what happens when government tries to get a little too big and fancy. What's the point of ANY of these specialized plates? If you care so much about wildlife, the Confederacy, abortion, flowers, out of state colleges (something I REALLY don't understand), etc., get a bumper sticker. It would save so much time, money, and hassle to just offer one standardized license plate (no personalization, no nothing).

But then the state and all these special interests would lose money and you can't fight the almighty dollar.

seenitB4
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seenitB4 02/19/14 - 11:47 am
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They do it for the MONEY!!

Tags make money for the state...I have had some in the past but not now...BUT after reading this article I might next time...yeehaw!

Thanks Fiat...that explains my feelings too.

Just My Opinion
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Just My Opinion 02/19/14 - 11:49 am
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No, there is no tag that says

No, there is no tag that says "Black Power", but there IS a Black Entertainment Television network, a Congressional Black Caucus, a Miss Black USA pageant, a NAACP, Black Student Unions in colleges,....c'mon, I could go on and on and on. Black people have become ridiculous about their complaints and things that "offend" them. It's gotten to the point where people aren't taking them seriously anymore.
If I wasn't so cheap, I'd get me one of these tags. I applaud the approving body because this is just the FAIR thing to do!

corgimom
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corgimom 02/19/14 - 12:11 pm
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I guess the SCLC thinks that

I guess the SCLC thinks that the right of free speech only applies to them.

Echoes86
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Echoes86 02/19/14 - 12:34 pm
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People's Choice

I'm all about letting people choose what they want to do with their individual lives. If someone wants this on their vehicle, then let them.

That said, even though I agree with the position that many of you in the comments section have taken, I can't agree with some of the reasoning. The BET argument is stupid because those things only exist because we live in white dominated society. Those things are there to give a group of people something that has their demographic represented. It's the same reason we have Lifetime, Univision, and SpikeTV. Just because channels don't have "white entertainment television" as their name doesn't mean that's not exactly what they are.

Also, you're arguing under the assumption that it's just black people that are mad about this flag. There are people of all races and backgrounds that have different opinions about the confederate flag. Stop assuming.

Just My Opinion
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Just My Opinion 02/19/14 - 12:49 pm
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Echoe, the BET issue is not

Echoe, the BET issue is not "stupid" because it's just one part of the other entities that I included....all groups that are specifically meant to represent one group, black people. If you can't see the seperateness of that, then I don't know how to help you see this. No, there is no White Entertainment Television because they'd be quickly labeled as racist hate mongers, but if blacks do it then it's okay because they "need" that to help them with their identity, self-respect, and blah-blah-blah. Same reasons for black-whatever groups and against white-whatever groups. I find it interesting that we're having this discussion about oppression during Black History MONTH... an entire month held to celebrate black achievements and advances.

CobaltGeorge
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CobaltGeorge 02/19/14 - 12:58 pm
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Fiat_Lux - 10:42 am

No more debate required...Period.

GiantsAllDay
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GiantsAllDay 02/19/14 - 12:59 pm
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SeenitB4 is right. My day has

SeenitB4 is right. My day has never been ruined by what I saw on a license plate. However, it appears that this symbol still stirs the passions, on both sides, even these many years later. I wish it didn't have to be that way.

restguy
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restguy 02/19/14 - 01:06 pm
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SCLC and NAACP need to worry

SCLC and NAACP need to worry about unwed mothers and gun violence....issues that matter....

owensjef3
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owensjef3 02/19/14 - 01:10 pm
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You can have your flag; the

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You can have your flag; the government should not be involved with printing hate symbols. The false equivalency that I read on this board is outrageous. Schools and governments should not make or fly these items, private purchases are fine.

owensjef3
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owensjef3 02/19/14 - 01:15 pm
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If people were treated fairly

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If people were treated fairly there would never have been a use for NAACP or SCLC. The people who were doing the deeds were flying that flag often. It was an intimidating symbol to most black folks for most of the 19th and 20th century. So fly your flag and celebrate your heritage.

juantez
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juantez 02/19/14 - 01:24 pm
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Keep telling youself that

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They say that it was far more than about slavery and black people.
If that's what you have to keep telling yourself go for it.
Confederate loss the war(1865) so people get over it and move on.

owensjef3
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owensjef3 02/19/14 - 01:25 pm
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Reparations? I don't whine

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Reparations? I don't whine and I'm don't have much more to say about this. I saying what happened and what that flag was used to do. Fly your Flag.

Mr. Thackeray
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Mr. Thackeray 02/19/14 - 02:10 pm
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"heritage" ??? More

"heritage" ??? More lost-causers trying to convince sensible folks that the Civil War as not about slavery! Read the secession documents, count how many times slavery is mentioned. Southern "lost-cause" Whites would be better off looking forward rather than backward.

burninater
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burninater 02/19/14 - 02:33 pm
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Let's put swastikas on the

Let's put swastikas on the Sons of Nazis plates while we're at it. It was the battle flag of a sovereign nation and globally significant economy, good enough reason right there! It's their heritage, and the war was just about nation's rights. Where's the problem with that?

If you can't see the moral good in honoring a system that denigrated, sold, and murdered an entire class of humanity as subhuman property, GET. A. LIFE! Right, Fiat?

Echoes86
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Echoes86 02/19/14 - 02:56 pm
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Just my Opinion...

So, in your mind there's never a need for groups for black people only? Black people are treated fairly in every way shape and form?

burninater
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burninater 02/19/14 - 03:21 pm
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Echoes86, a broader question

Echoes86, a broader question than whether or not exclusively black groups are appropriate --

How can people justify the claim that institutions like BET, a Congressional Black Caucus, a Miss Black USA pageant, a NAACP, or Black Student Unions have ANY moral equivalency to a system that treated a class of humans as subhuman property?

How are these two things treated as some kind of equivalent case? What does this say about an individual racial sentiment, that these two types can be held in a person's mind as comparable?

owensjef3
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owensjef3 02/19/14 - 03:23 pm
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That flag is banned in

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That flag is banned in Germany .

itsanotherday1
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itsanotherday1 02/19/14 - 03:27 pm
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Excellent rebuttal ssruss.

Excellent rebuttal ssruss.

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