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Sheriff, solicitor still seeking salary supplements

Friday, Feb. 15, 2013 8:42 PM
Last updated Saturday, Feb. 16, 2013 2:16 AM
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The question of whether to supplement the salaries of Richmond County’s new sheriff and State Court solicitor has not gone away.

Augusta Comm­ission member Marion Williams, one of five commissioners who lacked a sixth vote to pass the increases Mon­day, returned the item to next Tues­day’s commission meeting agenda.

“It’s the right thing to do. We’ve got the largest sheriff’s department in the state,” Williams said. “In Atlanta, they’ve got a sheriff who makes $160,000 a year, and he just operates the jail.”

Elected last year, Sheriff Richard Roundtree and Solicitor Kellie Kenner-McIntyre wrote letters to City Administrator Fred Russell in early January offering justification for the amount of pay each is seeking beyond the minimums set by local legislation of $110,000 and $97,000, respectively.

In Roundtree’s letter, which he distributed to the commissioners Thursday, he cites the department’s new initiatives already in the works, such as attaining accreditation and implementing a citizens advisory board and community policing. He goes on to describe his law enforcement background and education, including a master’s degree in psychology and counseling from Troy State University.

“In a salary analysis, I am asking you to consider my duties/responsibilities and qualifications as compared to other county agency heads along with their salaries,” Roundtree wrote. “I would also ask you to consider that a salary of $126,500 is very comparable to other sheriff’s offices and police departments across the region.”

Williams said he had been warned that denying the requests might be setting the city up for litigation.

“If we don’t do this, we can be sued,” he said.

Votes on the increases failed, 5-4, at Monday’s meeting, with Commissioner Grady Smith absent. Smith has said he will be present Tuesday, and Mayor Deke Copenhaver, who can break a 5-5 tie, has a Monday speaking engagement at a four-day conference in Phoenix and might not be present.

Commissioner Bill Lockett, who voted Monday for the increases, said the officials’ credentials, not length of service, and the salaries of other city department heads warrant the supplements.

“It’s fair and equitable when you compare it with the duties and responsibilities of other department heads,” Lockett said.

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specsta
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specsta 02/16/13 - 11:16 am
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Salaries

It seems that the raise requests are to bring the Sheriff's and Solicitor's pay more in line with their counterparts in similar-sized cities. I think Commissioner Williams makes a valid point.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 02/16/13 - 11:20 am
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There is absolutely no

There is absolutely no justification for the position of Sheriff of Columbia County to pay more than the position of Sheriff of Richmond County. Whittle is soon to get a raise that will make his pay higher than the RCSO Sheriff even AFTER the raise. I've heard Strength turned down suggested raises and that could be one of the reasons the salary is currently low as it is.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 02/16/13 - 11:47 am
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Earn

Let Roundtree and McIntyre get a couple of years of experience under their belts and then they will have earned a raise. They will have much more self esteem knowing that they earned a raise instead of just taking Marion Williams’ unearned gift of taxpayers hard-earned money.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 02/16/13 - 11:48 am
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Columbia County

I would expect the same thing to happen when Sheriff Whittle hangs it up. The salary for the newbie Columbia County sheriff who follows Whittle should initially be lower than Whittle's exit salary. It's only logical.

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myfather15 02/16/13 - 11:55 am
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How long has Whittle been

How long has Whittle been Sheriff of Columbia County? Now, how long has Roundtree been Sheriff of Richmond County? Hhhhmmmm, might have something to do with it.

On one hand you have a proven HONORABLE leadership track record; and on the other you have NONE. Well, nothing except a track record of questionable ethics the last time he worked for Richmond County. But, hey lets give him a raise; because he certainly has proved he deserves it, with everything he has done, right?

People keep saying "They're trying to get his salary comparable to the salaries of Sherif's for similar size Counties." Ok, but how long has that Sheriff of that other County, been in office?

Common sense logic does NOT prevail in a lot of peoples minds. Thats why this Country is in the shape it is in. We need more people like Dr. Carson running this Country.

Willow Bailey
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Willow Bailey 02/16/13 - 01:05 pm
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Why would anyone want to be

Why would anyone want to be logical when they can stomp their feet and spend money the county doesn't have? Hey, raises all around and start with Fred and Marion.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 02/16/13 - 12:02 pm
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Hey, I'm all for Dr. Carson,

Hey, I'm all for Dr. Carson, but the Sheriff is elected and doesn't have to come up through the RCSO. I'm pretty sure all sheriffs in the past have made as much as their predecessor. I'm also pretty sure Ronnie Strength turned down suggested raises. Charlie Webster came from outside the RCSO, but I doubt his salary was lower than his predecessor's.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 02/16/13 - 12:04 pm
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Willow said, "Hey, raises all

Willow said, "Hey, raises all around and start with Fred and Marion."

Heh, heh, heh...funny.

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palmetto1008 02/16/13 - 12:13 pm
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Some folks need to break out
Unpublished

Some folks need to break out of their blue-collar mindset. The two jobs in question are not working class or graded/classified positions.

Willow Bailey
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Willow Bailey 02/16/13 - 12:35 pm
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Who is standing up for the

Who is standing up for the deputies to get their raises?
They are the one's who everyone should want to see get raises first. Everyone. E v e r y o n e. Especially their B O S S.

The deputies are the one's who are under paid. The deputies are the one's with their lives on the line.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 02/16/13 - 12:39 pm
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I have absolutely no doubt

I have absolutely no doubt Roundtree will ask for other employees to receive raises. That's easy to do and when he does some will be complaining it wasn't his money or something.

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Darby 02/16/13 - 12:43 pm
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“In Atlanta, they've got a sheriff who makes $160,000.....

...a year, and he just operates the jail.”
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Oooh, Oooh, Mr. Kotter... I got the answer.... Let Mr. Roundtree move to Atlanta..

Riverman1
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Riverman1 02/16/13 - 01:21 pm
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"Oooh, Oooh, Mr. Kotter... I

"Oooh, Oooh, Mr. Kotter... I got the answer.... Let Mr. Roundtree move to Atlanta.."

That could be a good idea for all of us if he took Richmond County's population with him. But since that can't happen, I propose we all work to solve the crime in the county and support the elected sheriff.

Willow Bailey
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Willow Bailey 02/16/13 - 01:01 pm
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But just got to get his

But just got to get his first, huh? What kind of leader puts himself first? I'd say one lacking basic leadership skills.

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Grandpa Jones 02/16/13 - 01:15 pm
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.....

Most of you are letting the headline misleads you. When the truth is Marion Williams appears to be the one "egging" this on.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 02/16/13 - 01:18 pm
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Strange thumbs ups appearing.

Strange thumbs ups appearing...but any I get on this thread surprise me.

Willow Bailey
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Willow Bailey 02/16/13 - 01:28 pm
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The revote is a dice role....

There's something very wrong in being able to continue to bring up items to be voted on every week after they have either passed or failed. It's a "wait em out - wear em down process" played by those with little to nothing to do.

If this is going to be allowed there should be: 1) written restrictions regarding which issues are allowable, 2) time limits, 3)compelling reasons, 4)a requirement of the full commission being present for such repeat votes, 5)an application made for such business with an approval process.

Otherwise, it stinks to high heaven of poopy personal politics and the Augusta Commission should be retitled The Augusta Zoo with ticket sales offered nationally.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 02/16/13 - 01:29 pm
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Good luck with that

"If this is going to be allowed there should be: 1) written restrictions regarding which issues are allowable, 2) time limits, 3)compelling reasons, 4)a requirement of the full commission being present for such repeat votes, 5)an application made for such business with an approval process."

Good luck with that. Personally, I'd start with outlawing the home movies they show of when they go on vacation, I mean to a conference, and snacks in the backroom.

Willow Bailey
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Willow Bailey 02/16/13 - 01:49 pm
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OINK, OINK

So, River, you think, that bunch should be able to vote until their personal desires pass. Great. Hopefully, they'll spend all year on it and the county will save a ton of money on their foolishness.
In the meantime, the voters should learn plenty about who they have elected to govern their city and spend their tax dollars.

One commenter reported the deputy raises have already been turned down this year....
@americafirst "The deputies pay raise was recently denied. I haven't heard a thing about bringing that up for another vote or the new Sheriff lobbying for a raise for his people. In this county the pay we pay for deputies makes it difficult to hold on to good experienced people. We have no problem retaining sheriffs because of low pay."

Who did you say was hollering about that? Was it Marion or Roundtree? I haven't heard....

Oh, I think you said, Roundtree is gonna holler about it just as soon as he gets HIS FIRST. Well, I have a phrase for that ....OINK, OINK!

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Darby 02/16/13 - 03:34 pm
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"I propose we all work to solve the crime....

in the county and support the elected sheriff."

Yeah, I feel the same way. Support him at the salary his office calls for. If he manages to bring the crime rate down, then talk to me about raising his pay. Not before......

Not one minute before...

Darby
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Darby 02/16/13 - 03:43 pm
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"It's a "wait em out - wear em down process"...

played by those with little to nothing to do."
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Actually, they've plenty to do. Just nothing more important than playing wedge issues. Some, more than others, have a huge racial chip on their shoulders that isn't going away anytime soon.

If the disparity between Atlanta and Augusta is that important, why didn't we hear about it before Strength stepped down?

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CobaltGeorge 02/16/13 - 05:33 pm
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OK,

so if they don't get their raise...they need to start blaming Strength!

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 02/16/13 - 06:54 pm
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Good Point

Blaming Bush worked for Obama. Blaming Strength should work for Roundtree.

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texsmoke 02/16/13 - 07:55 pm
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Solicitor

I'm against both raises. But all I have heard is why Roundtree deserves a raise. What is her reasoning

soitgoes
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soitgoes 02/16/13 - 10:15 pm
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unscrupulous

asking for a raise before even proving either one of them can do the job... but, it's not about them getting a raise, it's about sticking it to those who pay the lion's share of taxes in Richmond County... It's a new day, Augusta, one Ayn Rand foretold... the Moochers taking from the Producers, but so it goes....

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rebellious 02/17/13 - 05:25 am
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These words

should never be used in the same sentence: Marion, Williams, Logical!

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rcandrews 02/17/13 - 09:04 am
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OH the irony!

Pro-Government Slaves and Anti-Individual Liberty Mules are all upset because the Pro-Government Masters want more money.

Priceless.

More proof that when the wolves come home to feast the sheep's opinion on "what's for dinner" matters not.

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justus4 02/17/13 - 01:59 pm
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Both will eventually be given
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Both will eventually be given increases in pay, but the howling will continue. The state's law about how salaries are consistent with education will carry the day, but notice how educated minorities are treated - like they got no education. The sheriff, based on education and size of city will prevail in an honest court, but expect request for his/her college transcripts (probably already being reviewed by...) to again question their intelligence. Didn't that commission eliminate the education requirements for a department head once? Everyone sees thru this and knows why its considered "news", but expect both minority elected officials to get the raises because its the LAW! Those commissioners who opposed this will end up costing taxpayers a plenty, but don't expect that cost to be attached to each of their names in future reporting. They will be paid now or paid later according to the laws. What about doing whats right without being forced to by the laws because neither officials wrote those laws - they just want financial justice. Again, both will prevail.

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itsanotherday1 02/17/13 - 11:04 pm
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I do not disagree that the

I do not disagree that the jobs should carry competitive salaries; but to run for the office knowing the current pay and then asking for a raise epitomizes the entitlement mentality. If the positions command X dollars, then bring them to that level based on results.

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Clemintime 02/18/13 - 07:30 am
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A solution to this Goat Roping...

Take the scheduled minimum annual salary for these positions and make a COLA adjustment (cost of living adjustment) to them, if applicable. Increase salary accordingly, and tell them to get to work.

My opinion on the pedigrees cited as reason for immediate salary increases is that the value of all that education made the individuals qualified to be elected to those positions. Nothing more, nothing less.

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