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Housing authority board approves consulting firm for Cherry Tree Crossing demolition plan

Thursday, Nov. 15, 2012 2:58 PM
Last updated Friday, Nov. 16, 2012 3:22 PM
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Plans to demolish Augusta’s oldest housing project and relocate its residents are moving forward.

On Thursday, Augusta Housing Authority board members approved the hiring of BTBB Inc., a Macon, Ga., architectural firm, to provide consulting services on an application to demolish the 389-unit Cherry Tree Crossing complex.

The application, expected to reach the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development in January, must show that costs to renovate the complex exceed 57.14 percent of the cost of building a new one, authority Executive Director Jacob Oglesby said.

With the filing of that application and another one to HUD to obtain Section 8 vouchers for the 389 families to be displaced, staff probably won’t begin meeting individually with residents until the spring, and relocations would start in the summer, Oglesby said.

The authority announced plans to demolish the structure last month, ahead of HUD approval, to ensure the community was behind the project, authority Chairman Rodger Murchison said.

“If we didn’t get the politicians’ approval and the residents’ approval, why ask HUD to do anything if we’re going to get stopped locally?” said Murchison, who was recently reappointed to another five-year term.

The authority has met twice with residents about the plans. About 40 percent of residents, typically senior citizens, will likely prefer to move to another authority development instead of using a Section 8 voucher to rent HUD-approved private housing, Oglesby said.

One privately managed complex that accepts residents with Section 8 vouchers is River Glen apartments in east Augusta. The complex recently requested and obtained a $46-per-unit increase in residents’ Section 8 utility allowance based on actual utility bills. The authority, which issues Section 8 vouchers, approved the adjustment Thursday.

The authority is getting better at moving residents and demolishing housing projects, Oglesby said Thursday. Gilbert Manor and Underwood Homes were torn down to make way for other developments.

A study found that 80 percent of relocated Underwood Homes residents and 70 percent of Gilbert Manor residents still hold Section 8 vouchers, Oglesby said.

“I think we did much better at Underwood,” board member David Steele said, “than we did at Gilbert.”

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soapy_725
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soapy_725 11/15/12 - 04:55 pm
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They are movin on up,
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They are movin on up to a deluxe apartment near you or Riverwood Plantation. Whichever makes room first. Section 8 Rentals Welcome signs are already being printed. They picked up on that new government plan to "tear it down is the only solution to crime" pretty quick. Roundtree's influence is already apparent. Solutions are underway. Disperse the roaches.

soapy_725
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soapy_725 11/15/12 - 05:03 pm
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Wow, history is getting away from us. Lets recap.
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Augusta Homes, East End, Nellieville, Gilbert, Underwood, now Cherry Tree, next the poisoned ground off Gordon Hwy??, River Glenn, Olmstead and all of Harrisburg. Pretty much anywhere in ARC that poor African Americans have ever lived. Is this racism? Is this the answer to getting white people to relocate downtown? You sly dogs. countyman you knew all the time. LOL LOL

omnomnom
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omnomnom 11/15/12 - 05:05 pm
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"consulting services on an

"consulting services on an application to demolish"

consulting services for a demolition? yikes. I thought you just had to roll a wrecker down there. Is this to prepare the land for the reconstruction of the PJs?

Me no understand.

lovesit42
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lovesit42 11/15/12 - 05:13 pm
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Well, when you choose to be

Well, when you choose to be dependent on the government to fulfill your basic needs, then you can't be mad when decisions are made without your input. The informal economic term, TANSTAAFL"there ain't no such thing as a free lunch" still holds true. Sure, you may be able to use that government check to keep your image up, but when the money runs out, or when you are being moved, or your utilities don't work, you don't get to complain, nothing is free in life even you are a part of the 47%.

Also, didn't someone just die in River Glen after being shot....I'm SURE the next section 8 complex will free of crime.....when a roach infested home is torn down, the roaches just move on to the next place they can infest...

my.voice
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my.voice 11/15/12 - 05:18 pm
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Why are we hiring OUT OF TOWN

Why are we hiring OUT OF TOWN firms to do this work?

OpenCurtain
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OpenCurtain 11/15/12 - 05:27 pm
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389 families to be displaced

and place in Section 8 homes.

Let's not completely disrupt their lives.
Moving distances can be very stressful and cause all types of issues to any family.

Given this, I know there are over 400 suitable properties available closer into town that already have the infrastructure support (bus lines and gov offices). Plus it would allow them to still have their friends nearby.

BTW: Why do liberals consider Housing vouchers OK, but consider School Vouchers a bad thing?

CryoCyberTronics
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CryoCyberTronics 11/15/12 - 05:49 pm
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So which housing project will

So which housing project will the AHA destroy?
By moving all the bad of the worse all into one housing project. By the way what happened to the new public housing that was planed of 15th. St. By the AHA?

Will
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Will 11/15/12 - 06:59 pm
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Section 8
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I have no problem with Section 8 tenants, but they need to screen potential tenants VERY CAREFULLY. Because if they move a problem tenant near me (noise, cursing/fighting, dogs rambling, disrespectful kids and friends, drug activity, etc.), rest assured, they'll be seeing Sir PoPo standing at their door. every. single. night.

F4therTime
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F4therTime 11/15/12 - 07:14 pm
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Good Luck with that one Will
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You do know who was elected sheriff don't you? Don't look for him to answer those calls...remember he believes they should be given chances not taken to jail. He's a social worker not a sheriff.

dichotomy
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dichotomy 11/15/12 - 10:12 pm
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"obtain Section 8 vouchers

"obtain Section 8 vouchers for the 389 families to be displaced"

Oh good. If you spread them around the right way you've got enough there to destroy 25 or 30 stable neighborhoods. That is the object of Section 8 isn't it? I know it is the result.

Patty-P
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Patty-P 11/15/12 - 10:58 pm
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With the new 2nd chance rule,

With the new 2nd chance rule, I suspect crime will increase in the Garden City.

griff6035
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griff6035 11/15/12 - 11:21 pm
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Church and State

I though Pastors were not suppose to involve themselves in Government IE Church and State.

griff6035
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griff6035 11/15/12 - 11:25 pm
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Land

Why not purchase some property in Aiken County and let them deal with the problems.

countyman
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countyman 11/16/12 - 02:21 am
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Following the lead of Olde Town.. Become hip & trendy

I think after the Laney Walker and Harrisburg neighborhoods become stable overall. Either Turpin Hill or East Augusta is the next area to pick up steam. It depends on whether the Riverwalk is extended into East Augusta. Or whether some type of riverfront developments pop up in the next few years in East Augusta. The demolishing of Sunset, widening of 15th street, and the $1.8 million grant(build new residential, commercial, etc from the inner city to South Augusta) will all help improve the Turpin Hill neighborhood. The level of success in Turpin Hill probably depends on whether they can attract young professionals who can walk/bike to the Medical District.

scgator
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scgator 11/16/12 - 08:21 am
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Property in Aiken County ?

"Why not purchase some property in Aiken County and let them deal with the problems." DON'T SEND US YOUR PROBLEMS, THAT IS WHY IN THE H***, I MOVED TO SOUTH CAROLINA THE YEAR THAT AUGUSTA CONSOLIDATED !!!! WE DON'T NEED MORE TRASH, WE HAVE RECYCLE CENTERS.

F4therTime
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F4therTime 11/16/12 - 08:58 am
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Section 8
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Will never make an area hip and trendy. It will cause stable neighbors to move and more rentals to bring the neighborhood down..Apple Vally, Glenn Hills, Pepperidge, Meadowbrook, Fleming Heights, Miles Park and more to follow....

soapy_725
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soapy_725 11/16/12 - 09:27 am
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A roach exterminator would have been less expensive.
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Section 8 screening cannot provide 24/7/365 surveillance of "boy friends and others visitors not on the lease". You pay $1000 a month for your mortgage. They pay nothing next door. Now that is fair and balanced if we every ay same. Social experimentation gone viral. Chaos and anarchy in the streets. Third world country mentality. Hunter gatherers coming to a neighborhood near you !!!!!!

seenitB4
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seenitB4 11/16/12 - 10:04 am
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Section 8

Why not have 1 big complex of section 8 homes.....say out by Bush Field maybe.....huge with gates around the place.....security too...if you don't live there full time --you don't come in & stay overnight...

Tullie
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Tullie 11/16/12 - 12:12 pm
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seenitB4 said:

Why not have 1 big complex of section 8 homes.....say out by Bush Field maybe.....huge with gates around the place.....security too...if you don't live there full time --you don't come in & stay overnight...

How are you going to stop people from going in there and staying overnight?

I don't think a lot of the problems in these areas are sleep overs anyway. Looks more like drive through problems.

countyman
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countyman 11/16/12 - 12:33 pm
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I don't ever remember saying

I don't remember commenting how either Apple Valley or Meadowbrook were trendy. Some people are so quick to leave a negative comment they don't even read first.

The Olde Town neighborhood is hip and trendy.

I also notice a developer is spending millions to build the 30 acre Sadie Landing subidivision next to Peperridge.

Tots
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Tots 11/16/12 - 12:59 pm
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Hi Countyman,

Is the developer still going to build that new subdivision next to Pepperidge? Looks like they put it on hold. Doesn't look like anything's been going on at that site since last year.......

Kinda looks like that site at the corner of Windsor spring and Richmond Hill Road..You know- the one where they came in, dug out and moved around alot of dirt/earth then just left a vacant lot...

TrulyWorried
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TrulyWorried 11/16/12 - 01:14 pm
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Section 8 is being discussed

and rightfully so - but what about the "experts" that will be hired from goodness where to tell the Richmond County Commission what they should do. We know they don't do it for free - and the taxpayer is looking at another outlandish bill for 'services rendered' and no one knows what that will amount to.
Section 8 is on big time now - Almost 50 years ago it was FHA235 that caused heartbreak, expenses and relocation for many. I imagine that there are not too many more people still living that had to put up with that program. Section 8 is unfair - people that have lived in a nice quiet area are forced to all of a sudden put up with unfavorable 'neighbors' that don't even deserve to live there.
Find another solution to placing those that receive housing assistance in an area that is more suitable. I am sure the commission would have enough intelligence to realize what I am talking about. It is not race, it is the drugs and murders that occur all too often in Richmond County. They have to be brought under control, but not if you spread the problem all over the county. I pity the folks that are decent and hard working or disabled that will have to move - they can't help the mess that some of the other inhabitants have created for them. I hope this will be thought over well.

HenryWalker3rd
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HenryWalker3rd 11/16/12 - 01:59 pm
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Does anyone have a link to
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Does anyone have a link to the actual quote where Sherriff Elect Roundtree said that he would give out second chances.....I am having a hard time finding it.

countyman
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countyman 11/16/12 - 02:05 pm
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Tots.... The owner of the

Tots.... The owner of the land at the Windsor Spring/Richmond Hill only cleared the land to sell the property. No developer actually had any plans for the property.

The Sadie Landing neighborhood is approved, and coming soon.

http://appweb.augustaga.gov/planning_zoning/plazid_display.asp?zID=4131

BamaMan
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BamaMan 11/16/12 - 02:26 pm
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Moving

I fail to understand why my tax dollars are used to relocate people, Section 8 or not. If I wanted or HAD to move, I'd have to do it myself. Think I'm going to have to change my screen name. I just realized what it's awfully close to.....

F4therTime
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F4therTime 11/16/12 - 02:56 pm
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Actually...
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I wrote about what this article concerns...unlike certain posters that post their regular dribble under articles even though it has nothing to do with the article under which it is posted and does not follow the posting rules...

GaStang22
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GaStang22 11/16/12 - 06:18 pm
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dichotomy, you nailed it at 9:12. Thats the mission!
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"The authority is getting better at moving residents and demolishing housing projects"

More like .... The authority is getting better at moving residents and destroying nice working class neighborhood!! These people hate to see nice neighborhoods I guess.

We get to pay people to ruin our neighborhoods AND foot the bill to get them moved in. Thanks!! We also get to the foot the bill to keep up the structures they ruin themselves. The least these people could do or should be REQUIRED to do..... is stop breeding if you already can't support yourself! The number of responsible people who really deserve the help they get is so small and its sickening the abusers, on top of being supported for being lazy, "have a right" to breed more dependants for others to pay for, but the ones paying for them don't have a right to limit the abuse!!

HenryWalker3rd
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HenryWalker3rd 11/17/12 - 09:47 am
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Double standards!
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“South Carolina has one,” he said. “We need to take a look at it and see if it works because I believe in second chances."

F4therTime
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F4therTime 11/17/12 - 01:15 pm
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If Roundtree...
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Wants to change legislation then he needs to run for a different office. His job is to arrest criminals based on the law. I'm against any law that expunges certain felony convictions. This is why we have the problems we have now. Nobody wants to be held to any standards for what they have done. Give it to me now and forgive me later...the democratic way.

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