Ga. groups oppose young-adult gun permits

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ATLANTA -- An assortment of gun-control groups announced their opposition Wednesday to allowing young adults to get concealed-weapons permits and to guns on campus.

A spokeswoman for the Young Democrats of Georgia that organized the Capitol press conference said they were worried about Senate Bill 493 by Sen. Barry Loudermilk, R-Cassville. It would lower the age for a concealed-weapons permit from 21 to 18. It passed the Senate 41-13 on March 7 and is awaiting consideration in the House.

An 18-year-old is likely to still be in high school and doesn’t have the judgment or the mental development to properly handle a weapon, according to Alice Johnson, director of Georgians for Gun Safety.

“The General Assembly has victimized us all by the law of unintended consequences,” she said.

Asked why young adults have the maturity to vote at that age but not carry a concealed weapon, Pace Academy teacher and former Marine Gavin Bradley said the difference is the degree of damage possible from poor choices.

“They shouldn’t have the ability to impact their peers in a way that’s so consequential and irreversible,” he said.

The groups also oppose allowing weapons on college campuses, pointing to a survey released Wednesday by Better Georgia showing that 66 percent of the 773 registered voters in Georgia agree.

Andy Pelosi, spokesman for Campaign to Keep Guns off Campus, said his organization had affiliates at 320 schools in 27 states mobilized to fight efforts to relax restrictions on campus weapons.

The president of College Democrats of Georgia, John Koch, said that support is growing.

“Today is the beginning of a renewed focus on positive solutions to the violent problems that plague our state and nation,” he said.

The groups called for ending poverty, expansion of background-check requirements on gun sales, and violence-prevention courses as ways to reduce violence. They specifically rejected the argument made by some conservatives that an armed public is safer.

“I’m concerned that we’re telling students, telling teachers, telling administrators that if you want to be safe, you need to carry a gun,” said Sen. Vincent Fort, an Atlanta Democrat whose district includes the campuses of Georgia Tech and Atlanta University Center.

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onlysane1left
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onlysane1left 03/14/12 - 03:33 pm
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What, restrict gun ownership

What, restrict gun ownership because of age? Let everyone have a gun, if everyone is packing, then, we'll all be safe, isn't that right?

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 03/14/12 - 04:22 pm
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Did Walter Jones go to

Did Walter Jones go to journalism school? Didn't anybody tell him that it is customary to include both sides in a news story? Sure, cover the anti-gun side, but include a quote or two from the pro-gun side.

copperhead
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copperhead 03/14/12 - 05:13 pm
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I see you folks don't have a

I see you folks don't have a problem drafting an 18 year old to fight and die to protect YOUR freedom and keep YOU safe BUT don't think they should be able to protect themselves.

Cdr4500
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Cdr4500 03/14/12 - 05:20 pm
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Sane, Elementary school too.
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Sane,

Elementary school too. They're mature enough; Dad had them shoot cans off the fence last week. Plus a baby's diaper is a good place to conceal a .22.

Bonkk
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Bonkk 03/14/12 - 05:33 pm
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An automobile is a 4,000 lb
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An automobile is a 4,000 lb weapon and is very dangerous when abused. Yet we let 16 year olds drive unsupervised as long as they are able to pass a test and meet certain requirements. I say let 16 year olds have guns (except for the 1st year until they are 17, they are restricted to shooting anyone past midnight and are not to shoot no more than 2 non family family members).

Techfan
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Techfan 03/14/12 - 06:08 pm
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Evidently, most don't think

Evidently, most don't think an 18 year old is mature enough to order a beer.

dichotomy
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dichotomy 03/14/12 - 07:00 pm
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Yeh, I'm about as pro-gun as

Yeh, I'm about as pro-gun as they come but I am not in favor of letting 18 year olds carry concealed weapons.

Of course, many of them are doing it already and, from what I've seen, the worst punishment they face is "given the opportunity to attend Tubman alternative school".

So, in the spirit of Gov. Deal and our legislature's recent initiative to not put anybody in jail for anything, maybe we should make it legal for kids to carry weapons and we could free up some apparently much needed space at Tubman.

dstewartsr
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dstewartsr 03/14/12 - 08:13 pm
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I carried one at seventeen

I carried one at seventeen for Uncle, but looking back, I don't think it would have been a good idea for me to be carrying one privately at that age.

buzzman
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buzzman 03/15/12 - 12:22 am
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We should suspend the

We should suspend the constitution in all matters that concern 18 year olds. Next we can get to work on those pregnant teenagers that have the kids that grow up and create the need for personal defense. But let's not stop yet, maybe we can "adjust" the constitution and get rid of some of those newspapers and editors we don't like. This is fun. Look around, I'm sure we can find some other people to "protect". Security sure feels better than freedom.

faithson
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faithson 03/15/12 - 12:57 am
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It is all about SELF

It is all about SELF CONTROL... I know a whole lot about young people having 6 of my own who came through. Please Oh please do not allow these mostly young men an 'ego' augmentation of this type. This is the type of 'freedom' without license that is truly wrong, by any standards, this is not a 'good' thing for the young of our state.

oldfella
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oldfella 03/15/12 - 06:15 am
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"An 18-year-old is likely to

"An 18-year-old is likely to still be in high school and doesn’t have the judgment or the mental development to properly handle a weapon, according to Alice Johnson, director of Georgians for Gun Safety."

Better not let them join the military, where an 18 year can handle nuclear weapons. BTW maybe an 18 year old doesn't have the judgement or the mental development to handle the ballot box on Election Day. They just might vote Democrat, and goodness knows the damage that can result from that.

Techfan
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Techfan 03/15/12 - 06:20 am
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Heck, I've seen 4 year olds

Heck, I've seen 4 year olds buy gum. What's the big deal?

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