Columbia County still seeking attorney in Magnolia Trace case

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Property cleared at Magnolia Trace site in Martinez
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Columbia County officials had not yet hired an attorney Wednesday afternoon to seek a legal means to stop construction of the Magnolia Trace development in Martinez.

A man holds a sign at Tuesday night's County Commission meeting.  JIM BLAYLOCK/ Staff
JIM BLAYLOCK/ Staff
A man holds a sign at Tuesday night's County Commission meeting.

To placate angry residents near Magnolia Trace, county commissioners voted Tuesday to hire a lawyer to find any legal grounds to “interrupt” construction of the 50 homes in the “affordable housing” project on Old Ferry Road.

County Administrator Scott Johnson said several attorneys were contacted Wednesday, but they declined the job, were too busy with other cases or had a conflict of interest.

Johnson said officials will continue the search to find someone familiar with property law, but won’t try to drag out the case in an effort to score a taxpayer-funded payday.

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Chillen
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Chillen 12/08/11 - 09:10 am
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Thank you for spending more

Thank you for spending more of our money to fix your mistake. At least the lawyers will be fat & happy this Christmas.

scratchthesurface
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scratchthesurface 12/08/11 - 09:38 am
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WOW!! THOSE PEOPLE really
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WOW!! THOSE PEOPLE really don't want THOSE PEOPLE satying in their neighborhood.

southern2
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southern2 12/08/11 - 09:39 am
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How about the county buy the

How about the county buy the property from the developer...at FMV of course.

scratchthesurface
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scratchthesurface 12/08/11 - 09:39 am
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staying (typo...sorry :) )
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staying (typo...sorry :) )

seenitB4
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seenitB4 12/08/11 - 09:39 am
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nissan guy....I don't think

nissan guy....I don't think they have the shootings & killings yet...but hey....
Tomorrow is another day....

WMartin
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WMartin 12/08/11 - 09:41 am
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Has an Environmental Impact

Has an Environmental Impact Study been conducted? We have a very bad problem with drainage and run-off in Columbia County. Isn't that area one of the "problem areas for soil erosion"?
I can remember seeing a lot of Red Tailed Hawks in that area. A protected species. Did the EPA take a look at the Developer's plans and the area's population of a protected species? Looks like they may have already cleared the area. Is there a fine for destroying a protected species habitat?
Has anyone looked at the finances of the CC commissioners? Anyone made any big deposits lately?
Just astin keschens.

Willow Bailey
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Willow Bailey 12/08/11 - 09:48 am
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There is not going to be a

There is not going to be a legal fight. It's all been said just to shut people up and do a little (very little) voter damage control. The developer will proceed as planned and approved. It's over and it always was a done deal.

Willow Bailey
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Willow Bailey 12/08/11 - 09:50 am
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I wonder if there is any

I wonder if there is any possibility they could leave a tree or two? Doesn't look like it.

706sweetstreet
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706sweetstreet 12/08/11 - 10:17 am
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This whole thing is

This whole thing is sickening-- just sickening. Poverty is not a disease, nor is it a precursor to violence. There are PLENTY of highly educated service minded men and women in this country who grew up in poverty. You high and mighty Columbia county residents will not 'catch' poverty from the families who will move into Magnolia Trace. Why dont you get off your high horses for a bit and treat the people who will move there as though the are a part of your community--- invite the children to your children's birthday parties, Take a church bus through and pick up kids to take to church. etc..... Expect the same good citizenship from the families who live at Magnolia Trace addresses as you do from your own neighborhood. If you treat this neighborhood and it's residents as any other, you will be surprised at the success. If you treat the children and parents who will reside there as though they are a splinter that you wish weren't there , you will get a festering wound.

Concerned in CC
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Concerned in CC 12/08/11 - 10:23 am
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Who will be the hero and find

Who will be the hero and find out which politician got money from one of the developers PACs? Follow the money... http://www.stltoday.com/news/article_4bb355e3-685e-5713-bcf8-2fb8371b85f...

Riverman1
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Riverman1 12/08/11 - 10:27 am
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Maybe we can get Richmond

Maybe we can get Richmond County to extend the bus route up there to help out the residents.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 12/08/11 - 10:34 am
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ConcernedCC, nice info in

ConcernedCC, nice info in that link. Now we know how he does it. I encourage everyone read the link. The owner of this company makes contributions to politicians in a convoluted way to keep his name out of it.

In the past he has made huge contributions to those who could approve this type housing. We have to carefully examine every Commissioner's campaign contributions and see if large amounts show up from some unknown group. It's starting to make sense.

seenitB4
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seenitB4 12/08/11 - 10:49 am
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Great link concerned in

Great link concerned in cc....like river sez--read & learn ----the$$$ flows to those in the know..

raul
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raul 12/08/11 - 11:37 am
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@River. Maybe Scott Hudson

@River. Maybe Scott Hudson would be interested in taking a look.

Damon Cline
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Damon Cline 12/08/11 - 11:40 am
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Nice attempt to deflect the

Nice attempt to deflect the political heat for a bad decision. Construction will continue while the commission makes its ham-fisted attempt to fix a problem that should have never happened. Then, after some high-priced consultants and attorneys come back and say, "sorry, nothing you can do," the commission can appear as if they tried to fight the good fight for their constituency. Once the project is finished, they can put a monument to Ron Cross in the commons area to celebrate his valiant leadership and vision for bringing this wonderful neighborhood to an "older" part of Columbia County.

inform
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inform 12/08/11 - 11:47 am
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Wow the responses on behalf

Wow the responses on behalf of CC makes the residents in that county seem small minded. Just because a low income housing development is underway does not mean that those who reside are not working citizens that pay taxes. I never knew you had to look a certain way or be a certain class to live in a certain town. In CC they have just as much crime but they have more wealthy people that can afford to keep it quite. Several students get suspended in those schools for drugs on campus, thanks mom and dad for the money to buy them..... Meth labs and all that is expensive who do you think is funding it or where do you think it is made?... Every person, black white brown or rich and poor deserve the same , a right to live in any area and be a contributing citizen. Oh this just makes me think how that CC neighborhood fought a Veteran that was getting a house built that would fit his new life style, What can you say good about the majority of your county, nothing! Crime is nothing no community wants so instead of concentrating on financial books and types of neighborhoods take a little of that time and invest in curving criminal activity, mentoring those who are at risk and mentoring those adults who inspire to be great but hasn't been taught how to be great.

seenitB4
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seenitB4 12/08/11 - 11:56 am
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informyou are right when you

informyou are right when you say.....
Every person, black white brown or rich and poor deserve the same , a right to live in any area and be a contributing citizen.

THAT is the point---right to live & buy their own house--anywhere---& not expect the taxpayers to pay for house-car-tv-nails-babies...many are doing just that w/o help from daddie government & that is what they want living next to them......a contributing citizen.

raul
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raul 12/08/11 - 12:05 pm
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@inform. you say, "In CC they

@inform. you say, "In CC they have just as much crime but they have more wealthy people that can afford to keep it quite."
In CC as much crime as where? Richmond County? Don't be absurd.

marianboler
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marianboler 12/08/11 - 12:36 pm
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okay so this issue really is

okay so this issue really is bothering me.... it really has nothing to do with what county but the fact that is low income housing. does it matter what type of housing? i didnt know low income housing increase crime or increased a safety issue? low income housing will help people in need with a lower rent in a nice home. what is wrong with that. i too live in columbia county and am outraged in the waste of our time searching for a lawyer when construction as already begun. So we want to fight these housings, and what about the low income housing that already exist in columbia county? did we fight them too? oh so most people dont know columbia county has an apartment complex that takes section 8? I have a questions for those who for some reason think low income housing will have a negative effect on them? do you have a house in your neighborhood that is up for rent? if so have u considered the fact that your neighbor may be renting that house and the owners are accepting section 8? My point is who cares what u think, get over it. Section 8 or low income housing it just what it its..low rent for those having a tough time. Yes we have people abusing the system but they are no better than you who judge them. This housing may go to couple working multiple jobs making ends meet and need some help. or maybe a single mom with kids who is going to school, working, and trying to provide for her family. it doesnt matter who it is or their situation houses like this will help people and thats what should matter. not columbia county is so precious and trying to avoid thes type of people in our community...who are these types of people? I dont understand.. Magnolia Trace i welcome you to the martinez area and hopefully expand to help all others that may honestly need the assistance. Be grateful for what you have today because you are not promised tomorrow or what the future may bring.

Spelunkerman
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Spelunkerman 12/08/11 - 12:59 pm
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Dang, build a 250 foot tower

Dang, build a 250 foot tower right off of Halali Farm Road and dead silence. Build affordable housing in Columbia County for Firefighters, teachers, Law Enforcement, and get slashed. Can't the Commissioners take the money they are going to spend on Attorneys, give it to the developer to build high dollar 4000 square homes, and move on? By the way, did the commission break the law when they approved the building of these properties? Seems like they are in a no-win situation.

jlind
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jlind 12/08/11 - 01:30 pm
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I live two streets over from

I live two streets over from where they are building. First off, this is a huge piece of land they plowed down...IN A NEIGHBORHOOD..to build housing? I understand both sides of this argument and personally, people on here stating snide remarks about CC people thinking they are 'better' and blah blah blah is ridiculous. You are missing the whole point. I just turned 25 and this is my first house. I have lived in apartments and townhouses since moving out at college. I have a three year old and wanted him to have a stable house to live with the same neighbors, not different people moving in and out around us every month. This neighborhood has been a blessing. Everyone looks out for one another and is there to help without having to even ask. Building the housing in the neighborhood is more of the issue, versus what some of you people are saying. We are not discriminating against 'low income' people moving in. I am offended at some of the comments being made. With that said, you accuse CC of judging people because of where they live, but yeah I'm pretty sure I read some rude things about the residents that live here. Anyways, I agree with points made about my property values, but mostly, I worry about the revolving doors of people that will be in and out of the apartments and around my home. As I said before, I moved into a neighborhood to have a constant. And no matter what kind of housing is being built there (low income, expensive, whatever..) I still would not like it. We are as ignorant to think crime and drugs are not in CC. But look at statistics, this is a 'safer' area then say, South Augusta.

inform- Uh, for real? So sorry but no, CC does not have as much crime as SS. You can't cover up murders everyday. Oh..but EVERYONE here has the money to and pays off their problems? Haha. That is hilarious. We are a middle class neighborhood with many different ages, although majority here are older adults. This has been there home for a LONG time and this is a big change to accept. You need to stop being what you are accusing CC of. And we have nothing to show for our community? Wow...

Honestly, I am really disturbed to discover how Augusta has split and divided. Where a person lives and grows up does not make that person. I have lived in CC all my life and have friends all over Augusta. I guess the younger groups aren't as judgmental? Who knows. Focus on the problem being discussed, not on where the problem is located or how much money they have.

Bottom line- I do not support this change. Whatever, agree or disagree. I have that my back yard basically will be in and out traffic for apartments/housing with a third of those renters probably interchanging every month. I want a constant for my son and my family, this is not it. It is inevitable that crimes will come along with the more people that come, and this homey neighborhood will not be as comfortable anymore.

LemonJello
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LemonJello 12/08/11 - 01:45 pm
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The County should write the

The County should write the residents a check for all the property value they are about to lose.

Willow Bailey
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Willow Bailey 12/08/11 - 02:30 pm
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The worst part is this is

The worst part is this is probably only the beginning. They or groups like them are likely buying up other tracts of land as we post. In the last few years, other out of town contractors have come into Columbia County and done more to destroy the local economy and drive down new and existing property values than anything that has happened from the results of a recession. This matter needs investigating and we must try to find a way to stop this abuse. It has the potential for being a greater problem than the surface issues. We need a community who will get involved. Think about it.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 12/08/11 - 02:29 pm
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Raul said, "Maybe Scott

Raul said, "Maybe Scott Hudson would be interested in taking a look."

He was there the other night recording some of the people speaking. I spoke with him briefly. But I think the hang up is going to be we won't know about their campaign contributions for quite a while. That's how this company got money into the hands of politicians to get these things approved in the past. I bet THAT'S IT.

Jeepnman
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Jeepnman 12/08/11 - 03:23 pm
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I am so sick of people saying

I am so sick of people saying we are snobs and we don't want "certain people" in our neighborhood. Drive through our neighborhood first of all and you will see that we are hard working, mixed race, middle class people that want to protect our homes and investments. People are going to get to live in these nice brand new expensive houses for a fraction of what my mortgage is every month. We have worked hard to pay for our house and fix it up to our likings and now I will be lucky to sell it for what we owe on it. I feel like I have been punched in the gut and robbed of 25,000 dollars.

WMartin
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WMartin 12/08/11 - 03:55 pm
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Well, I think it's safe to

Well, I think it's safe to say that if anyone out there has ever wanted to get into politics, the next Commissioner election is the time for you! None of those clowns will get re-elected.

Spelunkerman
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Spelunkerman 12/08/11 - 04:47 pm
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I'm willing to bet that not

I'm willing to bet that not one person who has posted here has attended a Columbia County Commission meeting up until the other night. Easy to sit and criticize Trey Allen, Ron Cross, and the rest of the commissioners making a decision. The Columbia County Commission is making great decisions moving our community forward for ALL citizens.

justthefacts
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justthefacts 12/08/11 - 04:52 pm
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How much you willing to bet

How much you willing to bet Mr. Spelunker?

TrulyWorried
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TrulyWorried 12/08/11 - 05:24 pm
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The problem CC has is one

The problem CC has is one thing but it makes my blood boil to see the bulldozers just erase every green thing that is in their way - get rid of the trees - we don't need them - just flat land, so we can get some concrete poured. Shame on those people - how they destroy God's earth - they do not have 5 cents worth of common sense when it comes to protecting the environment!! Just big bucks - that's the only thing that matters - any way it can be gotten.

GaStang22
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GaStang22 12/08/11 - 05:28 pm
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All these people who are
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All these people who are calling CC residents names for not wanting this low income housing, I got 2 questions for ya:

1. If what you say is true, then why is it most crime ridden neighborhoods involve low income subsidize and/or public housing? Big conspiracy?

2. If you are so eager to give money to help people have brand new $200,000 tht people who worked all their life supporting themsleves will never be able to afford..... please send me your email so I may contact you on where to get my share so I can afford a brand new house worth twice as much as the one I have.

What makes these people so special to get this said help that none of the rest of us qualify for? What we didn't have more children than we could support? We work and don't live beyond our means? We got married and tried to make stable homes for our families rather than having kids with men we already knew didn't support them? Once we were already in the hole we didn't choose to have more kids..... not work because its cheaper to stay home and collect gov't assistance while our kids were small?

Whats the key? Why is it people on gov't assistance make more than a family who works 40 hours a week? Why do they get brand new energy efficent homes with utility assistance while your average working joe has to pay out the nose for his electric bill in his old poorly insulated house becuase he can't afford to upgrade or reinsulate and also doesn't qualify for any assistance???

Thia low income housing isn't a hand up to those in need, its a hand out to those who have done nothing to deserve it anymore than any other citizen and thats not right.
Where are the lawsuits for average joes to get their piece of these pies??

The government doesn't give the message, we will help those in their time of need....... it gives the message, do things backwards and you will be rewarded for life with more than your fellow citizens will ever achieve who live the right way.

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