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City officials hold talks on Section 8

Mayor pro tem says meeting helps clear up misconceptions

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The Augusta Housing Authority investigates every complaint it receives about Section 8 housing and takes appropriate action, Executive Director Jake Oglesby told Augusta Commission members Friday.

But there is only so much the authority can do when it finds violations, he said.

"The only thing we can do is take them out of the program," he said. "We can't evict them."

And it can, and does, ban bad landlords from the program, he said.

Housing authority members and commissioners met for a roundtable discussion of issues, complaints, rules, regulations and lines of authority concerning the federal government rent subsidy program.

Mayor Pro Tem Alvin Mason called for the meeting a few weeks ago because of calls he's received about unkempt properties and multiple people living in one-family units.

The rental contract for Section 8 vouchers is between the tenant and the landlord, and once the tenant is out of the program, what happens then is up to the landlord, Oglesby said.

"There are a lot of good landlords," he said. "There are also a lot of bad ones. Some landlords don't care what their tenants did. It's a monumental problem out there."

Harrisburg Neighborhood Association President and mayoral candidate Lori Davis said the operative word is "landlord."

"The landlord is not responsible to any third party," she said. "So we cannot get the landlords to the table until Georgia law is changed."

She said she was surprised "the people at the table did not know that."

Davis had pushed for the city to adopt a chronic nuisance property ordinance until the city's legal team determined it would be unconstitutional.

Mason said there are misconceptions in the Augusta community as to who has the authority over Section 8 tenants, and that commissioners had questions about enforcement, accountability and responsibility.

"We've had a number of calls," he said. "We wanted to get cleared up who has the responsibility. We need to understand, so we can direct them to that person. ... I just don't know where the levels of accountability come."

Sirena Rogers, who handles Section 8 complaints for the housing authority, said that when she receives a complaint, she checks to see whether it is a Section 8 property, and 85 percent of the time it's not. If it is, she e-mails the case manager, who contacts the family and asks them to come in to go over the rules and regulations.

"If it is drug or criminal activity, we contact residents' services and follow up with the sheriff's department," she said.

After 11/2 hours of discussion among the two boards and neighborhood association officials, a motion was made to create a task force made up of the commission and authority members. But City Administrator Fred Russell asked them to allow him and Oglesby to meet first and set a direction for moving forward.

Mason said the meeting removed many misconceptions about the Section 8 program.

"I think we've had a great discussion," he said. "It shows this city is concerned and that, working collaboratively, we can get these things done."

By the numbers

31,080: Number of occupied rental units in Richmond County

3,476: Number of Section 8 Rental Choice Voucher families in Richmond County

2,238: Number of public housing units

824: Number of applicants for vouchers on waiting list

January 2007: Last time applications for Section 8 were taken by Augusta Housing Authority*

About 500 a year: Number of families whose Section 8 vouchers are revoked because of rules violations

15 percent: Number of complaint calls the Housing Authority receives about Section 8 housing that are actually Section 8 units

* Except for River Glen Apartments

REASONS FOR REVOKING VOUCHERS

40 percent: Lying, fraud, failure to repay

20-30 percent: Failure to pay utilities

Less than 5 percent: Behavioral issues

Comments

johnston.cliff

"We've had a number of calls," he(Mason) said. "We wanted to get cleared up who has the responsibility. We need to understand, so we can direct them to that person. ... I just don't know where the levels of accountability come."

LOL, The ongoing problem with the subsidy programs is that people on them are relieved from responsibility and accountability and NO government agency EVER takes responsibility, or is held accountable, for a federal program or those on it.

This discussion, like all others, have found no one is responsible and no one is accountable and Mason makes a brilliant closing statement.
"I think we've had a great discussion," he said. "It shows this city is concerned and that, working collaboratively, we can get these things done."
SNAFU

Taylor B

I applaud Mason and Davis for trying to get to the bottom of this. Cliff, it is a mess, but at least we are seeing officials trying to do something about this. Its not an easy task.

Emerydan

Here's a thought: any landlord who takes taxpayer money in the form of section 8 vouchers should be required to be licensed to participate in the program and pay small yearly licensing fee that would fund this oversight taskforce. These properties would be subject to routine inspections, and after accumuluating a certain number of violations with no corrective action being taken, then the landlord loses their license and can no longer participate in the program.

corgimom

"If it is drug or criminal activity, we contact residents' services and follow up with the sheriff's department," she said."

And then it stops there.

EVICT THEM and bar them from participating for 2 years.

That would stop it.

chadwick323i

I've got a complaint! Check Cherry Crossing, Allen Homes! Check all of South Augusta!!!

missaugusta07

It's amazing how the good has to suffer with the bad,all the women that have been accused of fraud all the facts have not been told,someone else messed up and now they are covering they butts...when the smoke clears we will see who did what!!

raul

Does anyone know how many section 8 units are in Columbia County? Under whose purview do they fall?

Sweet son

I agree with Emerydan that landlords need to be certified and charged a fee for each house that the rent under the Section 8 program. My 80 year old plus parents have a Section 8 house right across from their house. They are often scared of the goings on in this house. When it is rented there always seems to be more than one family and very few of the occupants seem to leave and return from a job of any sort. The landlord probably repaints and re-rents several times a year. And he is no pleasant individual when you try to approach him. Probably nothing can be done but please keep trying. Thanks.

Emerydan

sweetson.. the problem is that you have a few bad landlords who only care about getting their check from the government. Section 8 vouchers are paid directly from the housing authority to the landlord. Some of the landlords simply don't care, as long as they get that check

disssman

Why not post the addresses of section 8 property on a web site so we can all see where they are?

Why not post the basic rules of section 8 so we all know what they are?

Why not post the telephone number for complaints so we all know what it is? I defy anyone to find a number for ms. Rogers within a days time calling.

disssman

The reason people call Mr. Mason is because we don't know what the telephone book would list anyone as. It sure isn't under "s" for section 8. And I doubt if it is under "A" for augusta.

Emerydan

The reason Mr Mason is being vocal about this is because many of these section 8 properties are in his district and he has been getting an earful of complaints from constituents about these problem properties. Good for him for bringing the parties together to work out a solution to this problem. Lord knows, our mayor has been completely silent on this issue, and I know for a fact he has received many of the complaints that Mason has.. atleast Mason took some initiative to get the ball rolling on a solution, as usual, Deke the Meek twiddles his thumbs and does nothing, because none of this fits into his rose-tinted polly-anna view of Augusta. His philosophy seems to always be ignmore anything negative and maybe it will just go away.

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