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WASHINGTON --- House Democrats heard it all Saturday -- words of inspiration from President Obama and raucous chants of protests from demonstrators. At times it was flat-out ugly, including some racial epithets aimed at black members of Congress.

With Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid at his side, President Obama met with House Democrats in Washington on Saturday.  PABLO MARTINEZ MONSIVAIS/ASSOCIATED PRESS
PABLO MARTINEZ MONSIVAIS/ASSOCIATED PRESS
With Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid at his side, President Obama met with House Democrats in Washington on Saturday.

Most of the day's important work leading up to today's historic vote on health care was being done behind closed doors. Democratic leaders cajoled, bargained and did what they could to nail down the votes they will need to finally push the bill through the House.

But much else about the day was noisy, emotional and right out in the open. After more than a year debating the capstone of Obama's domestic agenda and just hours to go before the showdown vote, there was little holding back.

Clogging the sidewalks and streets of Capitol Hill were at least hundreds of loud, furious protesters, many of them tea party opponents of the health care overhaul.

"Kill the bill," the largely middle-aged crowd shouted, surging toward lawmakers who crossed the street between their office buildings and the Capitol.

Kristie Greco, a spokeswoman for Democratic Whip Jim Clyburn, D-S.C., said a protester spit on Rep. Emanuel Cleaver, D-Mo., who is black.

Clyburn, who led fellow black students in integrating South Carolina's public facilities a half century ago, called the behavior "absolutely shocking."

"I heard people saying things today that I have not heard since March 15, 1960, when I was marching to try to get off the back of the bus," Clyburn told reporters.

Obama's Capitol Hill visit was the day's emotional peak for House Democrats as he sought to energize them to finally approve the legislation.

He conceded that it could be tough for some to vote for the bill, but predicted it would end up being politically smart because once it becomes law people will realize they like its provisions like curbs on insurance companies.

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mSeda
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mSeda 03/21/10 - 02:29 am
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This article is another

This article is another example of the biased media reporting. I was at the protest on Capital Hill today and heard no racial slurs being used by protesters; in fact the tone was very civil. Additionally, this article states that "at least hundreds" of protesters were present. This is completely false when we arrived on Capitol Hill at 11am (an hour before the protest was scheduled to start) there were no fewer than 3000 protesters on the West Lawn. The Capital Police gave an official estimate of 15,000-25,000 people present at the peak. The Chronicle should discontinue printing this partisan drivel from the AP and look for more reliable news sources.

Megan Seda
Chairman - Columbia County Young Republicans
Augusta Tea Party Organizer

johnston.cliff
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johnston.cliff 03/21/10 - 04:20 am
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Thank you Megan. There is

Thank you Megan. There is little doubt the AP prints the propaganda lies of the hard left, but it's always good to have a first hand report from someone on the spot. The hate filled racist, Jim Clyburn, is a perfect example of what the hard left has done to the MLK message. And, we know the only reason the lies of "civility" behind closed doors (where the "cajoling" is taking place) is being told is because it's behind closed doors. Civility disappeared weeks ago, it's down to threats against Dems by Dems at this point. Many, actually most, congressmen that support this illegal scam will see their political career end today if this bill is passed into law.

DAMY46
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DAMY46 03/21/10 - 05:20 am
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There will be a lot of new

There will be a lot of new faces in D.C. come November..

cleanup
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cleanup 03/21/10 - 05:57 am
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Wow, there is no end to the

Wow, there is no end to the Republican lies and incivility. If you have any doubts as to the racism inherent in the Republican party, just look at johnston.cliff's pic. You can deny all you want, but the GOP is the grand old racist party. Nice try, Megan. Spin all you want, but the truth is the truth. Here's a nice video of your fellow tea potty members: http://www.buzzfeed.com/awesomer/the-tea-party-the-circus

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Lorraine 03/21/10 - 06:50 am
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The proof is in the pudding.

The proof is in the pudding. The Republican party continues their steadfast efforts to fuel racial warfare among racial groups through tea parties and other endeavors. Though, I am not amazed about how far this party will actually go to spin their lies and scare tactics. One thing for sure is that many Republicans are very passionate about their ungodly platform which is used to impart lies and hatred. Very sad and pathetic...

southernguy08
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southernguy08 03/21/10 - 07:09 am
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CLEANUP, you're accusing
Unpublished

CLEANUP, you're accusing Republicans of racism? How about how they put the confederate battle flag to replace the Georgia state flag? Oh, wait...that was all Democrats. Well, how about how in SC, they voted to put the confederate battle flag on top of the SC house (Its still there.), and a Republican governor, Ernest Hollings, refused to veto it. Oh wait...that was all Democrats too. Well, how about how Republican senators from the south fought the passage of the Civil Rights bill, including senators Al Gore Sr. from Tennessee, Richard Russell from Georgia, and Herman Talmadge from Georgia. No, wait...that's all Democrats too. It was Republicans who Lyndon Johnson credited with getting the bill passed. Let me get back to you with those racists Republicans and what a wonderful track record the Dems have for treating AA's respectfully. I don't have anything right now.

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Brad Owens 03/21/10 - 07:12 am
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cleanup, his picture is from

cleanup, his picture is from the movie poster from 'Congo' if I am not mistaken, what does it have to with this debate?

Also, I am disappointed in the smear tactic of throwing the race card. This is the same Rep that called Bill Clinton a racist during the primary against Obama in S.C.

Looks like all of Bill Clinton's payoffs while President and his being the 'First Black President' didn't mean a thing when it came to REAL race baiters like Jim Clyburn huh?

When will these guys quit riding the corpse of MLK for a meal ticket?

Anyway, this bill is toxic and all these folks thinking that they will be OK because the appleseeds will see the benifit before the storm hits will be surprised at the backlash at the polls.

Bill Clinton could teach Obama something about trying to get his agenda through with a hostile congress. But then again, you can't teach them anything can you? They know it all.

No matter if this passes or not, it will spell defeat for many Democratic Reps.

Brad

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johnston.cliff 03/21/10 - 07:15 am
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The vote count, as of 6am

The vote count, as of 6am today, was 208 yes, 214 no, 9 undecided. Just 9 Dems who know their political career will be over if they support this but are being "cajoled" so hard by this administration that they just don't want to commit until the last second. Pelosi must get at least 7 of these 9 to force this crazy bill through. We'll see.

JohnQPublic
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JohnQPublic 03/21/10 - 07:22 am
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http://www.politifact.com/

http://www.politifact.com/ Let's check out both sides. Suddenly the Republicans are pure as the driven snow. They're all full of it. The American people deserve and need the truth, not scare tactics. Watch Paul Broun running his mouth... http://www.examiner.com/x-15931-Chicago-Political-Buzz-Examiner~y2010m3d...
Let's hold every politician's feet to the fire. They are our employees. We voted them in. We pay them. Hold them all accountable no matter the party affiliation.

johnston.cliff
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johnston.cliff 03/21/10 - 07:18 am
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cleanup, government schools

cleanup, government schools teach that my avatar is our common ancestor. I'm just trying to show that we're all brothers in diversity.

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jack234 03/21/10 - 07:21 am
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I try to be objective when

I try to be objective when judging the merits of the tea parties. But when they go to Washington and let a few of their members show their true side, then, you can not help but to question the agenda and legitimacy of their efforts. Members of congress and tea party members need to weed out those who idealogy is based on hate and racism. After that is done, then, they might have my ear. HELLO! HELLO!

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InChristLove 03/21/10 - 07:24 am
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I'm sure there are a lot of

I'm sure there are a lot of disrespect coming from both sides (Rep & Dem) but I just watched a partical clip of the President talking to I'm assuming the democrats concerning passage of this HC bill and listening to him talk, he is the most arrogant, sarcastic, President I have ever heard. In the past, when I have heard the Presidents speak, even if I didn't agree with what they were saying, there was still an atmosphere of respect. President Obama's speaches do not inspire that. When he speaks it's like all this sarcasim comes to the top and how can you respect that.

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Brad Owens 03/21/10 - 07:24 am
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SouthernGuy08, http://en.wiki

SouthernGuy08,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Gore,_Sr.

He did vote against the Civil Rights Act but he was a Southern leader on equal rights. It cost him his seat in 1970.

He was beaten by a REPUBLICAN running against Gore's 'liberal' record and by the WHITE Republicans using the race card. Read and learn the whole story Sir, you tirade only told one small part of the man's history.

Brad

P.S. You need to not allow yourself to be dragged into a defense of the confederate pride non-sense over this bill which is NOT about Civil Rights or RACE, that it what Clyburn wants. They want the debate to shift to something other than the merits of this bill itself, DON'T fall for it.

jack234
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jack234 03/21/10 - 07:25 am
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This will prove to be a great

This will prove to be a great day for America when the members of congress, whom we elected and know better then we do pass an historical piece of legislation that we have all waited so long for. We want all Americans to be insured and have health care for their families. We have a powerful president who loves America and cares for all people. This is good. HELLO! HELLO!

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johnston.cliff 03/21/10 - 07:29 am
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If this Obamination passes,

If this Obamination passes, insurance costs will definitely continue to rise for the next 10 or more years, according to the CBO. Will the voters punish Dems this November for lying to them or will they be patient, hoping their life will become easier (like with Obama cash) or that the government won't raise their taxes? If the Obamination fails, will the voter call Repubs the party of no and punish them in November because their life isn't any better and their taxes will go up? This whole scam is about power and who decides who will spend your money, the government or you, who will take care of you, the government or you, and whether the physician will look at you as a patient/customer or as a defrauder trying to beat the system, an enemy of the state.

Government education (and subsidy programs) has set up so many to be tricked.

JohnQPublic
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JohnQPublic 03/21/10 - 07:35 am
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InChristLove, if he was white

InChristLove, if he was white and spoke the same way, would you say he was commanding respect and acting presidential and in charge? Would senators have the huevos to yell "liar" and news reporters interrupt him if he was not of color? They are disrespecting our President and the office of the president.

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johnston.cliff 03/21/10 - 07:34 am
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jack 234, I find your entire

jack 234, I find your entire post of 8:21a to be based on hate and racism. Will you weed it out?

johnston.cliff
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johnston.cliff 03/21/10 - 07:36 am
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johnQ, if the president is

johnQ, if the president is lying, should people say he's a liar?

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InChristLove 03/21/10 - 07:38 am
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JohnQPublic, if he was white

JohnQPublic, if he was white and speaking the same way then I would still have an issue with the arrogant, sarcastic, way he's speaking. In order to get respect you have to give respect. You can always get your point across without putting down people who disagree with you. It's his delivery, not his skin color.

jack234
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jack234 03/21/10 - 07:39 am
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johnston.cliff - You are

johnston.cliff - You are right, based on the hate and racism I see in the tea partiers. HELLO! HELLO! AGAIN!

InChristLove
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InChristLove 03/21/10 - 07:40 am
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Jack234, you make a correct

Jack234, you make a correct statement. "We want all Americans to be insured and have health care for their families." But at what cost to all Americans. This isn't the issue, the issue is the cost that will ultimately harm all Americans.

GiveMeTheScoop
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GiveMeTheScoop 03/21/10 - 08:11 am
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Haven't we had enough of the

Haven't we had enough of the leftist house, senate and ...

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johnston.cliff 03/21/10 - 07:42 am
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jack234, then everyone who

jack234, then everyone who doesn't agree with your racist pov is a racist and everyone who does is a racist. Good! I'm glad to see you take responsibility for your skewed perspective.

GiveMeTheScoop
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GiveMeTheScoop 03/21/10 - 07:45 am
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InChristLove, they got the

InChristLove, they got the perfect dude in office, if you disagree your a racist; a muslim hater.

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JohnQPublic 03/21/10 - 07:47 am
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Which president, J.cliff?

Which president, J.cliff? Sure now that you called Obama a dirty low down liar, let's work backwards on the list to Bush. Can you admit anything he has done which was a lie. How about weapons of mass destruction and a wars. Let's call them all out on the carpet, Republican presidents as well as Dems. Face it. Bush is the reason why we are at this crucial point in history. I didn't hear any republican Senators yelling liar while he addressed congress.

jack234
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jack234 03/21/10 - 07:47 am
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Megan: I have seen some of

Megan: I have seen some of the signs held up by tea parters. Some were very racists, and yet you continue to let it happen. Those people are hurting your cause and they will be pointed out. Why do you allow them to do this? If you really believe in your cause and don't have a hidden agenda, you will weed them out. You will take a hoe to them. HELLO! HELLO! I will not join the tea party where these people are allowed to carry a tea party card. HELLO! HELLO! Be careful what you organize, it could hurt your business. HELLO! HELLO! Some of the tea party members need to join the Aiken March. Hello! HEllo!

JohnQPublic
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JohnQPublic 03/21/10 - 07:48 am
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ICL, baloney!

ICL, baloney!

InChristLove
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InChristLove 03/21/10 - 07:52 am
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JohnQPublic, are you calling

JohnQPublic, are you calling me a liar. You don't know me or my beliefs. You asked a question, I gave an honest answer, and then you say baloney? Believe what you want, why'd you ask the question in the first place if you didn't want an honest answer?

InChristLove
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InChristLove 03/21/10 - 07:54 am
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JohnQPublic, you just proved

JohnQPublic, you just proved my 8:38pm statement.

johnston.cliff
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johnston.cliff 03/21/10 - 08:00 am
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JohnQ, Bush is out of office.

JohnQ, Bush is out of office. The current president was lying when he was called a liar. Is that okay with you? Oh, and by the way, he's still telling the same lie. This "health bill" DOES grant amnesty to illegal aliens.

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