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Committee submits 6 names for consolidated university in Augusta

Friday, June 15, 2012 10:25 AM
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After months of winnowing down more than a thousand recommendations, a committee has chosen six suggestions for the name of the consolidated Augusta State and Georgia Health Sciences universities.

Helen Hendee (left), the vice president for development and alumni relations at Augusta State University, and Susan Barcus, the chief development officer at Georgia Health Sciences University, talk about the naming process for the consolidated university.  ZACH BOYDEN-HOLMES/STAFF
ZACH BOYDEN-HOLMES/STAFF
Helen Hendee (left), the vice president for development and alumni relations at Augusta State University, and Susan Barcus, the chief development officer at Georgia Health Sciences University, talk about the naming process for the consolidated university.

They are:

• Arsenal University

• Augusta Arsenal University

• Augusta University

• Bartram University

• Noble University

• University of Augusta

A consolidation working group of ASU and GHSU members looked at more than 1,200 suggestions, many of which were duplicates, said Helen Hendee, the vice president for development and alumni relations at ASU, who was a co-chairwoman of the group.

GHSU President Ricardo Azziz did not “micromanage” the process and instead gave the committee a few simple principles: the name could be no more than three words, it should not have health or medical in the name and it had to be university, Hendee said.

The committee culled those that were profane or more than three words, but “I will tell you that our group looked at every single name,” said Susan Barcus, the chief development officer for GHSU, who was also a co-chairwoman of the group.

Names were generally divided into three broad categories – geographical, aspirational and proper names that referred to a specific individual, Hendee said.

The committee consulted with experts and did extensive research on what elements should be considered in the new name, Barcus said.

Augusta University and the University of Augusta were the most popular suggestions among those submitted, Barcus said.

Arsenal University and Augusta Ar­senal University are not just nods to the former Au­gusta Arsenal facility where ASU began, Hendee said. Arsenal also symbolizes strength, she said.

“The two naming opportunities, Bartram and Noble university, are really rooted in the contributions of historical figures of significance to the area,” Barcus said.

“Noble” refers to Noble Jones, a physician and carpenter who was an original Colonist and Revolutionary War figure and a Co­lonial surveyor, Barcus said. “Bartram” refers to the prominent naturalist William Bartram, she said.

“We have 38 miles of Bar­tram Trail through Georgia, so this was in his honor,” Barcus said.

After internal and external input, a task force is expected to vote June 27 on three unranked finalists, which will be submitted to the University System of Geor­gia Board of Regents. The board could take up the issue at its meeting in August.

If approved by the South­ern Association of Colleges and Schools in December, the new consolidated university would begin operation in January.

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KSL
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KSL 06/15/12 - 10:55 pm
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Sounds good to me, Autumn,

Sounds good to me, Autumn, but I don't have a say and someone said it has already been decided.

moralcompass
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moralcompass 06/15/12 - 11:14 pm
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still like Georgia National

still like Georgia National University but seems like i am the only one
the school needs a regional not local name because of the medical institution

a name that would attract more people would be East of Atlanta University or Masters and Johnson University
or Georgia Peaches University

to hell with it

You guessed it...Frank Stallone
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You guessed it...Frank Stallone 06/15/12 - 11:40 pm
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U of Augusta is only choice here...

University of Louisville
University of Cincinnati
University of Memphis
University of Houston
University of Chicago
University of Buffalo
University of Denver
many others....

If Augusta wants to exponentially grow as a city (as Countyman would sell his organs to see) then it needs a large, research intensive university with its name in it.

KSL
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KSL 06/15/12 - 11:43 pm
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Again, GT does not need

Again, GT does not need national in its name to attract foreigners. Just as Harvard and Columbia did not need it to attract Obama. The reputation for excellent education attracts and then the name is recognized.

KSL
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KSL 06/16/12 - 12:16 am
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Moral compass, I am a huge

Moral compass, I am a huge fan of MCG. But why does it need a regional name? There are a lot of perfectly good medical schools around and about. SC has two. Georgia has others. MCG needs to earn its International renown on its own despite its name, which I think it has.

moralcompass
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moralcompass 06/16/12 - 12:16 am
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metro csra is problem

csra is about 550000 with 200000 or so in aiken county
so augusta lives like a 350k city and with so much sprawl, no real downtown it feels even smaller
the cities you mention with university names all have 1 mil plus metro with somewhat of a city feel except maybe buffalo
anyway augusta and its size and economy are the biggest problems for this new consolidated university
a damn natl science foundation kids science center cant even stay open in this town

can you imagine scientists and people in higher education when they fly into augusta airport/bush field - their first thought is how the hell am i gonna get out of here and get back home

the best thing augusta can do is to distance itself from itself
sorry it hurts but its the truth

you also cant have the largest state funded medical institution in the state be named after a city for goodness sake

obviously mcg grads are fewer and spread out more and may care less so the jaguars will prevail unless the BOR step in

KSL
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KSL 06/16/12 - 12:24 am
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Moral, may I ask how long you

Moral, may I ask how long you have been in the area and your credentials for telling us what we should be doing? Understand, I do not live in Augusta but I consider myself to be from GA.

Hucklebuck
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Hucklebuck 06/16/12 - 12:27 am
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Historical Figures

I hope that those historical figures didn't own slaves. The libs won't like that!! LOL

KSL
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KSL 06/16/12 - 12:28 am
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Moralcompass, tell us how we

Moralcompass, tell us how we can help to get you back to where you came from.

Willyhyena
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Willyhyena 06/16/12 - 12:35 am
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being from GA is nice and all...

@ksl: if youre not from the csra or an augusta (high school, college/state, medical, or GRE) then why are you in this discussion?

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 06/16/12 - 12:52 am
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Please Acknowledge

Tom Corwin posted:

I have pointed this out before but the "State" name cannot remain in the name of the new university. The University System of Georgia has a specific classification of universities called "State Universities," of which Augusta State is one. The New U will be in the "research universities" category so it needs a name that reflects that.

You posted that assertion before, and I debunked it by pointing out that Georgia State University is a well-respected, doctoral-degree-granting, research university sitting right in the middle of Georgia's system of public colleges and universities. How do you explain that?

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 06/16/12 - 01:37 am
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Uh, oh. Some list-making editor

Uh, oh. Some list-making editor changed the list to put it in alphabetical order in a June 16, 1:22 a.m. update to the story. That makes my 10:52 a.m. post on June 15 inaccurate. Readers need to realize that the original story had Augusta University and University of Augusta as the first two names in the list, and the other four at the bottom. The anonymous editor must be the only fan of Noble University.

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longleafpine 06/16/12 - 03:48 am
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school name

It dishonors the medical school to have such names as suggested. Why only three words? That's no way to describe this university. What's wrong with Augusta University and Medical Centeer.

GAgirlbornNraised
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GAgirlbornNraised 06/16/12 - 05:49 am
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These names are the worst!

These names are the worst! And to all the people pushing that the name have "medical" or "health" in it .... The schools won't be just a school for science ... As an art major at ASU, I for one would be displeased with such a name .... The best choice is University of Augusta .... Come on, Arsenal ... You're kidding me right .... But I'd rather keep the name ASU ... But I know that won't happen, the whole merger Is pointless.

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Riverman1 06/16/12 - 07:06 am
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Again, it's obvious it has to

Again, it's obvious it has to be AU or UA. Why ASU can't be kept is questionable, but it appears it would get us out of that little group of tiny University System of Georgia schools using the state name. So I'll go along with that even though Little Lamb makes a good point.

Someone up the thread who wants Georgia in the name points out the satellite med school at UGA as reason to use that name. Well, since the med school in Athens is only a satellite of MCG in Augusta, why in the world would their name pop up in our flagship institution here? We also have branch med school campuses in other cities. This is about putting us in the big time in many ways including psychologically.

By the way, note how Coastal Carolina dropped the USC branch designation and affiliation with USC. There's a plus in seeking your own identity. I'd like to see USC-Aiken do the same.

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IsAnyoneAlwaysRight 06/16/12 - 08:46 am
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Bartram is best of the bad !

A Naturalist would be great choice.

IsAnyoneAlwaysRight
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IsAnyoneAlwaysRight 06/16/12 - 08:51 am
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George Augustus U

King George II who granted charter to Ogelthorpe for settlers to have new beginnings and as a buffer south of the Carolina's would have been better than Bartram. His granddaughter Princess Augusta was whom Augusta was named after. Best of both worlds. U got part of Georgia, part of Augusta, and the symbol of new beginnings and aspirations all symbolic in George's name.

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john29860 06/16/12 - 09:13 am
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My Wife's Suggestion

Augusta National University is still my choice but my wife suggested Bobby Jones University. It sounds important, more like a private college but the acronym may cause some consternation.

Newsflash
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Newsflash 06/16/12 - 10:15 am
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A few choices.......

A few choices submitted by a *blue ribbon panel. (I should note after drinking a 24 pack of *Pabst Blue Ribbon Beer ) # 1 S. Crew U. # 2 Straight Dope U. # 3 Wossamotta U. # 4 Itsuppa Two U. # 5 Goatroper U. and finally Augusta Science & Health University or as we say ASHU. Hope you enjoyed this........i'm off to get a b c powder. My head's killing me.

proud2bamerican
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proud2bamerican 06/16/12 - 10:16 am
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do not like ANY of the choices!

PLEASE! Someone do something fast!! I am VERY disappointed at the names they are considering!!! No time for more thoughts, but I really hope none of these names are chosen!!

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Riverman1 06/16/12 - 10:59 am
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There's already a Bob Jones

There's already a Bob Jones University.

Heck, I'm seeing so much interest in the naming maybe we should auction off the naming rights like the stadiums do. Qualcomm University?

prov227
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prov227 06/16/12 - 12:00 pm
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Using a first name for a university ...

Although "Noble" is a neat first name not used too much in the past two centuries, how does a committee agree to name a university after someone's first name? Jimmy Carter University, i.e., Jimmy University, Ronald Reagan University, i.e., Ronald University, Bobby Jones University, i.e., Bobby University. I'd like to hear the committee's reasoning on the selection of a first name. It doesn't seem well thought out.

A little research shows that Noble Jones was the son of one of Oglethorpe's soldiers and was a physician who founded the Georgia Medical Society (now a county medical society) in Savannah. Oglethorpe's physician on his second expedition in 1733 was Samuel Roberto Nunez who had to deal with an disease outbreak in Savannah. He is memorialized on a plaque in Washington Square, Savannah. Why not Nunez University (or maybe just good ole Sam University).

Lyman Hall University would have been a better choice to tie Georgia's colonial history, the Revolution, and medicine together. Hall died in Burke County and is buried in Augusta at the Signers Monument, was a former governor and led efforts to charter UGA. George Walton University ties the name to the major thoroughfare that ties the ASU and MCG campuses together and colonial history. Walton does have some baggage historically with Gwinnett as pointed out on this thread.

MadeinAmerica
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MadeinAmerica 06/16/12 - 12:19 pm
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Other than University of

Other than University of Augusta, very hard to believe theses names showed up on the list of 1500 suggested names many times. Seems ASU admin was allowed to suggest some names, which has led to this very unimpressive list. U of A is ok, but AU is bland and uninspiring. Augusta National University sounds interesting but may have too much of a golf connection. Augusta International University might be different enough. There are many other good possibilities that I've heard, some that don't include Augusta in the name.

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puppydog 06/16/12 - 12:35 pm
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"Disgusta" does NOT need to be in the name

point to ponder said:
I agree with a citizen who stated the obvious... "Medical College of Georgia--with its Summerville Campus".

We are the Medical College of Georgia–known to be one of the most prestigious medical schools in the south and beyond.

I agree with this post. The name of the newly combined U does NOT need to include the name of the mid-size city it is located in. Augusta State does not have the connotation to attract out of town students/the campus is made up of a majority of local Augusta residents. We need to attract students from out of the area. The current name including Augusta has not done that. If we are to become a top-tier research university and medical school, the name needs to be more attractive to out of towners and out of staters. We need a new committee to be appointed and go back to the drawing board.

puppydog
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puppydog 06/16/12 - 12:37 pm
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Let's pick a more prestigious regional name

How about "Southeastern University"- along the lines of the prestigious
Northwestern and Northeastern Universities?

puppydog
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puppydog 06/16/12 - 01:03 pm
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Please appoint a new committee and co-chairs

The New U DOES NOT NEED TO BE A GLORIFIED AUGUSTA STATE UNIVERSITY. That will take the Medical College of Georgia down about 100 ranks on the list. Dr Azziz is trying to take GHSU in the OPPOSITE direction than that and achieve national prominence and world-class research university status. Maybe the consolidation needs to be taken off the table or MCG will not achieve the rise to the top-tier it is seeking.

The Medical College of Georgia–instant name recognition- known to be one of the most prestigious medical schools in the south and beyond.That name should have never been abandoned. It holds national name recognition and prominence. I hope the USG BOR rejects these pitiful 6 choices. MCG does NOT need to be brought down to the level of ASU, which DOES NOT attract students outside of Augusta, never has- never will. (And don't say the golf team has brought attention-that is NOT going to bring in students from Atlanta or out of state. The golf team is not even ranked this year anyway & its hayday is over, so that argument holds no water).

Please go back to the drawing board with a new committee.

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cheapster505 06/16/12 - 01:14 pm
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arsenal universtiy

Arsenal University Home of the "BOMBS" I like it already

puppydog
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puppydog 06/16/12 - 01:22 pm
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MCG does NOT need to be

MCG does NOT need to be brought down to the level of
ASU, which DOES NOT attract students outside of Augusta, never has-
never will.

If Augusta is in the name (or ANY of these 6 names become the name of the New U), MCG might as well pack up and move to Athens and let ASU be the New U in Augusta.

And don't say the golf team has brought attention-that is
NOT going to bring in students from Atlanta or out of state. The ASU
golf team is not even ranked this year anyway & its hayday is over, so that argument holds no water. And don't think that "Augusta" in the name is going to attract students because of the Masters. Most out of town students do not follow golf or the Masters and it's not like they would be able to even go to the MAsters or get tickets to it (they wouldn't be able to) and definitely never be able to play on the course.

I hope whoever is in charge of appointing these committees will replace Susan Barcus and Helen Hendee as co-chairs and form a new committee of 9 to start over from scratch.

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paperguy 06/16/12 - 01:49 pm
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Absurd choices

What absurd choices. One third contain "arsenal", which is an historical reference to the location of ASU, but also has war connotations. How about "Wear House University", "Summerville University", "Neighborhood University", "Resort Hotel University" or "Cotton Mill University" if we want a historical reference to location. And then there are one third with references to historical figures. Why is it suggested to use the last name of one and the first name of the other? Too many Joneses I guess.
The final third are the two they have obviously chosen, AU and U of A. These are good choices, made better by the other 4 absurd ones.
The committee has failed to provide six legitimate choices, but has only given us two.

mary2010
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mary2010 06/16/12 - 02:34 pm
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RE: names for new schools (mcg and ASU)

Where did these names come from? This should be put on the November ballot for the people to choose not some jerk that knows nothing about AUGUSTA. We look so stupid to the other cities in Georgia!!!!!

To Me it will always be Medical College of Georgia and Augusta State or as older folks know it Talmedge Memorial Hospital!!!

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