Jennifer Keeton gets ASU lawsuit extension

Student given more time to answer dismissal claim

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An Augusta State University student who contends the school violated her free-speech rights has been granted more time to answer the college's request that her lawsuit be dismissed.

Jennifer Keeton claims ASU violated her rights by requiring that she undergo a remediation process.
Jennifer Keeton claims ASU violated her rights by requiring that she undergo a remediation process.

A motion filed Monday by attorneys representing graduate student Jennifer Keeton said they will not be able to meet the Tuesday deadline to file a response for the defense's motion -- which asks the court to throw out the case or require Keeton to present more specific evidence against the school.

Keeton's attorneys said their lead counsel, Jeffrey Shafer of the Washington, D.C.-based Alliance Defense Fund, has had a "number of challenging personal circumstances of late that has kept him out of the office and unable to attend to almost any professional responsibilities."

They cite the extended hospitalization of several of Shafer's family members and the recent birth of a child.

They now have until Nov. 2 to respond.

Keeton filed a lawsuit against ASU on July 21, alleging she was "being forced to change her religious views."

The university said it was only trying to ensure that Keeton doesn't let her beliefs interfere with her ability to counsel clients who don't share her values -- specifically homosexuals.

ASU had required that Keeton complete a remediation plan that included attending counseling workshops, reading counseling journals regarding gays, and increasing her exposure to gay people.

The school's motion to dismiss was filed in September and is based on several arguments, including:

- Keeton has not shown she is entitled to monetary or injunctive relief because the documents she used as evidence did not support her claims.

- The 11th Amendment shields the university from Keeton's claims because state agencies cannot be sued directly, regardless of relief sought.

- The faculty did not violate the U.S. Constitution by asking Keeton to complete the remediation plan.

Also filed Monday was a motion by Keeton's attorney, Joseph J. Martins, to withdraw from the case. In an e-mail filed with the motion and addressed to "Jen," Martins said that because of his "pursuit of other professional opportunities," he is no longer employed by the Alliance Defense Fund.

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Dixieman
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Dixieman 10/05/10 - 10:33 am
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This case could have been

This case could have been handled better. I still think she is right -- and HOT!

gaspringwater
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gaspringwater 10/05/10 - 10:40 am
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It was a farce from the

It was a farce from the git-go! The filing lawyer and the plaintiff should be held accountable for the taxpayer's cost.

dougk
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dougk 10/05/10 - 10:45 am
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Agreed, gaspringwater.
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Agreed, gaspringwater.

Indigo
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Indigo 10/05/10 - 11:02 am
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Its time to move on.

Its time to move on.

judgeandjury
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judgeandjury 10/05/10 - 11:39 am
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From what I hear her support

From what I hear her support group is about to expand in an unwelcome way. Stay tuned!

dougk
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dougk 10/05/10 - 11:53 am
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Well, there's a cliffhanger,
Unpublished

Well, there's a cliffhanger, for sure.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 10/05/10 - 12:16 pm
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I heard the rumor, too,

I heard the rumor, too, Judge. But I'll keep it secret.

burninater
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burninater 10/05/10 - 12:39 pm
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She should have done her

She should have done her homework as to who was bankrolling her suit. Big business evangelicals don't need to win this case to expand their swelling (and tax-free too!) bankrolls. For them, it was about advertising. Evil liberal social scientists attack helpless blonde Christian! Did we mention she's blonde! Send us money, fast!

Oh, and if expanding support group means what it sounds like, they're probably going to want to protect their "family values" brand and walk away before it negatively impacts sales projections for this product line.

confederatelady319
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confederatelady319 10/05/10 - 01:03 pm
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This woman is standing up for

This woman is standing up for what she beleives in and i don't have a problem with it.Stand for something are fall for anything.Its like a lot of you fell for the snake oil salesman,with the promise of change.A man that was only a sitting senator for 168 days and has never had a job,and you make him president,this country is in deep trouble because of this.

Cheeched
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Cheeched 10/05/10 - 01:09 pm
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If my religion led me to

If my religion led me to believe that the force of gravity is 8.81m/ss or that pi equals 2.14 then would a publicly funded engineering school be required to grant me an engineering degree?

If my religion led me to believe that it is wrong to medically treat blacks and I refused to work on a black cadaver then would a publicly funded medical school be required to grant me a medical degree?

I have yet to see where ASU asked this woman to change or alter her religion. They seem to have only asked to to seek some diversity training in hope it will quell some of her hate for members of society that are different from herself in order to make her a better counselor worthy of a degree from ASU. There is nothing wrong with that regardless of what the hypocritical Christians want to say. And to bring up an opinion that this wouldn't happen to a Muslim student is just absurd. Christians are beginning to get the "short man" syndrome and their hate and jealousy of others is just sad.

j2says
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j2says 10/05/10 - 01:43 pm
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1. The president doesn't have

1. The president doesn't have anything to do with this case. Not to mention the he was a law professor so, he was employed prior to becoming president. Stay on topic.

2. She made the choice to go to ASU, she's not entitled to change the program to fit her agenda. If her that's her belief then she is wrong.

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sml1977 10/05/10 - 02:17 pm
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A couple of things. I am a

A couple of things. I am a christian and very proud to say it, however, being a psych major myself and wanting to go in the direction of counseling, you are going to see all kinds of people. I have been taught all of my life, "love the sinner, not the sin." Noone is to past judgement, not even christians. Most of all, not christians! We are to represent the love that Christ showed EVERYONE!

If I remember correctly, she wants to be a school counselor. She should have attended a Christian College and should look for work in a Christian school if she only wants to be surrounded by Christians. You don't attend a University and expect them to change their entire curriculum to suit you. This curriculum has been in place for years. ASU is not asking her to change her beliefs, or accept homosexual behavior, they are simply educating her in how to counsel patients that are. To refuse to counsel a teenager due to the fact they may be homosexual is unethical.

Cheeched - seems to me that you may be the one filled with hate, and that is truly sad.

PUPPYMOMMA
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PUPPYMOMMA 10/05/10 - 02:30 pm
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The secret is out. KKK going

The secret is out. KKK going to back her up on Oct. 23. How did you guys find out before anyone else?

confederatelady319
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confederatelady319 10/05/10 - 02:45 pm
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J2says need to catch up a

J2says need to catch up a little that law professor crap was shot down long ago.

j2says
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j2says 10/05/10 - 03:03 pm
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By what email chain? The same

By what email chain? The same kind that says he was born outside the US? You need to check your facts : http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/was_barack_obama_really_a_constitu...

Cheeched
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Cheeched 10/05/10 - 03:32 pm
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How did anything I said equal

How did anything I said equal any kind of hate speech?

Farmboy
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Farmboy 10/05/10 - 05:54 pm
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The issue of homosexuality is

The issue of homosexuality is rather simple compared to some of the things that a counselor discusses with clients.

soldout
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soldout 10/05/10 - 08:34 pm
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Since the media is now

Since the media is now promoting the homosexual lifestyle as being so great and normal why would there ever be a need for a counselor?

CoastalDawg
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CoastalDawg 10/05/10 - 08:35 pm
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"They seem to have only asked

"They seem to have only asked to to seek some diversity training in hope it will quell some of her hate for members of society that are different from herself in order to make her a better counselor worthy of a degree from ASU." Was there a different article that I missed that said she hates members of society that are different from her? And who are YOU to say that she would be a better counselor worthy of a degree from ASU by their attempts to reprogram her to be a robot spewed out by that department? In reality in my opinion it is a credit to HER to stand her ground and stick it out through this controversy. Whatever happens here, the way will be paved for the next students who want to hone their skills AND maintain their own moral standards; the "publically funded"school is just as open to those people as anyone except there is a bit of a misconception here - tuition and books are NOT free and without an ability to pay for those, an individual can't attend classes.

Cheeched
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Cheeched 10/05/10 - 08:39 pm
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It is not the place of a

It is not the place of a counselor to teach or council based on their beliefs and I don't want a Muslim counselor giving me advice from the Koran any more than I want a Christian counselor giving me advice from the bible unless I was to specifically seek that advice by turning to a known Christian counselor. Like it or not, agree or not, all ASU told her to do was to go and learn more through observation.

Just because I believe that homosexuality or adultery is a sin as are many other things, I wouldn’t support a counselor, especially a public school counselor, giving advice based on my views or her views – stick with the policies and training. Her views as reported by ASU and the AC have been used by counselors before and a Google search will show that many such cases have resulted in suicide based on them being told they are perverts and must change through therapy. That may be the job of a preacher or priest but not a counselor. She has every right to have her beliefs and I support that 100% but if she is going into this field, she needs to learn and practice the approved curriculum which has been set forth.

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Fiat_Lux 10/05/10 - 09:50 pm
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Cheeched, your comparisons

Cheeched, your comparisons are not valid, mainly because counseling is nothing like a "hard" science. There are no absolute, immutable and measurable values or even unchangeable standards. What the APA likes today it may hate tomorrow. What it likes today it did hate yesterday. So, try for comparing apples to les pommes.

As for Christians and "short man" syndrome, one has to wonder where in the world you came up with something so absurd. Without even addressing the stupid generalization about our "hating" other people, please enlighten us just who we possibly would be "jealous" of. Search as I might, I can think of no one whose faith I would ever envy, but I'm definitely interested in reading what you might say.

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TrukinRanger 10/06/10 - 05:41 am
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She's only blonde until they
Unpublished

She's only blonde until they stop selling peroxide. Perhaps if she lays off the stuff her head will clear up.

MajorPaul
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MajorPaul 10/06/10 - 09:15 am
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ASU does not mind if Miss

ASU does not mind if Miss Keaton shares her religious views about anything else, I suppose, just about homosexuality. But the school is not taking the high road here. I have talked to several students in the very same program, and the school certainly doe not mind them expressing their religious views when it comes to homosexual behavior. A full dozen of them have said, and even stated in their classes they would tell a student who asked them that homosexuality is not a sin!
So my question, and one the court needs to consider, is why are some religious perspectives tolerated without need for remediation, and others are not?
That is the real issue here! As long as you are part of the party line, you can express whatever views you wish, religious or not. But if you do not agree with the very narrow perspective taught, you need remediation.

ros1342
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ros1342 10/06/10 - 09:50 am
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I believe Jennifer Keeton's

I believe Jennifer Keeton's case will be dismissed when it goes to court. She doesn't have a legal claim. Talking to other people who doesn't share your religious or personal views, isn't the same changing your religion. She probably should counsel people who only share her religious views. What if the issue wasn't homosexuals, but counseling others who belonged to other religious denominations such as Catholic, Baptist, or Penocostal. Talking to another person of a different religious denomination is not the same as changing your religion? Neither is talking to a person who is a homosexual. This is a diverse society. You can not just single a person out, because they are different from you.

ros1342
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ros1342 10/06/10 - 09:53 am
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Maybe homosexuals should sue

Maybe homosexuals should sue her for discrimination.

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mable8 10/06/10 - 12:36 pm
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According to the ASCA Code of

According to the ASCA Code of Ethics, the very FIRST standard reads: "Each person has the right to be respected, be treated with dignity
and have access to a comprehensive school counseling program
that advocates for and affirms all students from diverse populations
including: ethnic/racial identity, age, economic status, abilities/
disabilities, language, immigration status, sexual orientation,
gender, gender identity/expression, family type, religious/spiritual
identity and appearance." The school counselor's responsibilities to the student include: "Respect students’ values, beliefs and cultural background and do not impose the school counselor’s personal values on students or their families" and "Consider the involvement of support networks valued by the individual students." It is clearly obvious that Ms Keeton does not wish to honor these ethical standards, which makes her motivation in becoming a school counselor (or any other type of counselor) rather suspect. Either she follows the Code of Ethics or she should find some other profession to become involved in. In case anyone wonders where to read the Code of Ethics in its entirety, then please go to: http://asca2.timberlakepublishing.com//files/EthicalStandards2010.pdf. ASU is perfectly within its legal rights to recommend a remedial resolution to correct Keeton's failure to adhere to the Code of Ethics. Ms Keeton needs to re-evaluate her reasons for becoming a counselor.

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ruudvonbaron 10/08/10 - 10:44 am
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Cheeched - While I agree with

Cheeched - While I agree with your stance and analogies (I suppose they are yours) you really shouldn't copy and paste posts made by other people about this story earlier in the year and pass them off as your own.

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