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Two brothers guilty of violating school rules

Brothers involved in incident that hurt pregnant teacher

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A 13-year-old Collins Elementary School student and his 12-year-old brother have been found guilty of conduct and discipline violations in a case in which a pregnant teacher was injured.

The findings from the two special needs students' Feb. 2 tribunal were made public Wednesday.

The 12-year-old was suspended for five days "and will be provided special education services as required by law," according to the tribunal summary issued by Richmond County school board attorney Pete Fletcher's office.

The 13-year-old was assigned to the Tubman Education Center Alternative Program for two years, but a panel agreed to revise that decision should the student later be deemed eligible for the Georgia Network for Educational and Therapeutic Support program, which provides services to students with severe emotional or behavioral disorders.

Locally, a Sand Hills GNETS program is offered on Tate Road in Augusta for seven surrounding counties, including Richmond.

According to the tribunal summary, which identifies both students only by the initials D.J., "The parent admitted the students were guilty of the rule violations."

The violations listed for the 13-year-old include disrupting and interfering with school; physical assault on an employee of the school system; physical violence against teachers, a school bus driver or other school official or employee; physical assault and or fighting with a person not employed by the school system; disregard of directions or commands; and noncompliance with rules and regulations.

The 12-year-old was found guilty of disrupting and interfering with school; disregarding directions or commands; and noncompliance with rules and regulations.

Officials have said the incident occurred on Jan. 20 when the 13-year-old left class and brought his brother to a teacher's classroom to confront another student. According to the tribunal summary, while the 13-year-old tried to fight that student he "hit a teacher in the eye, knocked over a podium onto a student, causing injury to the student, and hit a pregnant teacher on her arm and in her stomach. The teacher sought medical attention."

The pregnant teacher was out on leave for three days after the incident, but school officials have refused to comment on the baby's condition.

Earlier this month, school officials decided to press a criminal charge of aggravated battery against the 13-year-old. Aggravated battery is a felony that's committed according to Georgia law "when he or she maliciously causes bodily harm to another by depriving him or her of a member of his or her body, by rendering a member of his or her body useless, or by seriously disfiguring his or her body or a member thereof."

Officials have said the 12-year-old didn't strike the teacher, and criminal charges can't be filed against a student younger than 13.

The criminal case involving the 13-year-old is now in the hands of the Georgia Department of Juvenile Justice.

Initially, the school system's safety office wasn't notified by the school's principal, who said he reported the case to the school system's central office.

After hearing about the incident from a Chronicle reporter five days later, school safety Lt. Richard Roundtree initiated an investigation to determine whether criminal charges were warranted.

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Cadence
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Cadence 02/18/10 - 02:47 am
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It goes without saying that

It goes without saying that back in the day this behavior would never be allowed. Between the principal and the parents, a child who did this...well, he would not do it again. Now I understand that violence in the classroom is more common than I ever knew. I just don't know what the answer is. Forget the parents, they will not help. All children are legally entitled to an education in a general ed classroom if possible. It's getting bad out there.

Brenda_G
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Brenda_G 02/18/10 - 05:08 am
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I got your "Georgia Network

I got your "Georgia Network for Educational and Therapeutic Support program" right here. Step right up and bend over.

bentman
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bentman 02/18/10 - 07:48 am
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Scum

Scum

cristinadh
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cristinadh 02/18/10 - 07:54 am
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including these students in

including these students in general population it's dangerous to the teacher and the students.. I personally don't like it!!

sgachief
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sgachief 02/18/10 - 07:58 am
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pure unadulterated animals!!!

pure unadulterated animals!!!

walkerjones
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walkerjones 02/18/10 - 08:23 am
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Wow! They were birth

Wow! They were birth brothers!

glassrinkmaker
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glassrinkmaker 02/18/10 - 08:56 am
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There is nothing wrong with

There is nothing wrong with these two punks that stiff discipline would not cure!!! OH I FORGOT, WE CANT DO THAT, CAN WE?

glassrinkmaker
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glassrinkmaker 02/18/10 - 08:57 am
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IT WOULD TAKE ABOUT TWO

IT WOULD TAKE ABOUT TWO SESSIONS WITH MY LATE DAD FOR THESE TWO HEATHENS TO BECOME MODEL CITIZENS!

1941
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1941 02/18/10 - 09:02 am
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Take them out of school, and

Take them out of school, and let the mother home school them!! No teacher should have to put up with her kids, and she don't!!! They are like they are, because she, and their father did not put a belt on their behind, when they started, to say NO !!! That is the first sign , when a child tell's you NO. when you have told them something to do, or not do.!!!Parents are afraid to disipline the kids, because they are afraid they are going to get locked up. When they lock up the parent, they have to take the kids!! Then so be it!! The kids know that law if they don't know any other!! '' HIT ME AND I WILL CALL THE COPS'' When the parents start standing up to their kids, and knocking them on their behind, then things will get better!!!!

lifelongresidient
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lifelongresidient 02/18/10 - 09:02 am
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let see assault on a teacher,

let see assault on a teacher, putting her life and the life of her unborn child in danger...2 years in the knucklehead....oops i mean the alternative school, what will it take to permanently expell them??? another columbine maybe?? these two should be thrown out of the richmond county school system forever, but of course with enrollment down, looming budget deficit the inept and moronic school board needs all the money it can get so they need to keep the fannies in the seats on order to "keep the state and federal money" flowing education or providing a safe working environment for the teachers be (beavers) dam!!!!!!

disssman
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disssman 02/18/10 - 09:22 am
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If you want to have fun go to

If you want to have fun go to the Georgia GNET site and look at what a waste of money you are responsible for. Then ask yourself, who is paying the lions share for the operation of that school for 7 countys? The site says a lot except it dosen't have any objectives? I wonder if this is a directed program, should it be seperate from our budget? Or do we just lump it into the current document to keep it secret like everything else in the RCBOE?

disssman
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disssman 02/18/10 - 09:25 am
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I forgot to mention that

I forgot to mention that punishment for these two will actually cost taxpayers dearly for transportation from their houses to their new facilities. Of course if MAMA hasn't applied for their social security allotments, she needs to do so immediately. Of course I am sure she did that years ago.

Cadence
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Cadence 02/18/10 - 11:02 am
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One problem is that general

One problem is that general ed teachers are not trained as special ed teachers are. It really is two different specialties that they are trying to force together. It endangers the other students and interferes with their ability to learn.

deekster
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deekster 02/18/10 - 11:50 am
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What is SSI per child now?

What is SSI per child now? Maybe $1000 a month per child?

Fiat_Lux
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Fiat_Lux 02/18/10 - 12:53 pm
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I wonder if any of us has any

I wonder if any of us has any idea how many genuine sociopaths are "students" in Richmond County today.

A friend of mine who resigned at Christmas break from teaching kindergartners at a local elementary school had some sobering stories about what her little charges did on a regular basis. They stabbed each other and their teachers with pencils, fought like wild animals at any frustration, they spit, screamed and threw furniture. But they also longed for affection and attention from the adults at school, which was not allowed to be given them because of how vulnerable to abuse it made them by the adults in their lives away from school.

This was not a special ed or BD class but a regular class of five- and six-year-olds.

Is it really any wonder that there are so many angry, violent, predatory children walking around loose?

Angelofmcy
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Angelofmcy 02/18/10 - 02:13 pm
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It's a shame that teaching

It's a shame that teaching has become a dangerous profession. Disrespectful children are the products of their parents. They never taught them to respect their parents, or themselves. If children don't learn right from wrong at an early age (pre-school) you can't expect them to learn it from a stranger. These parents have failed their kids, and now the school system is paying for it. Too bad you don't have to pass a test to be permitted to raise a child. So many people who are raising children haven't the slightest idea how to do it right. At least these parents admit their children did wrong. You'd be amazed at how many parents take their delinquent child's side when he or she is clearly wrong, giving the child the message that they can do no wrong. Those types of idiot parents will watch their children go in and out of jail all of their lives. When that happens, they have no one else to blame, except themselves, who have failed miserably as parents.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 02/18/10 - 02:56 pm
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You know, it would be nice

You know, it would be nice after all these weeks for the Chronicle to at least mention what grade each of these brothers is/was in. Do "special needs" children actually get assigned to grades, or are they nebulous users of school space and resources, having no accountability to actually pass a class or meet an expectation?

sliique
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sliique 02/18/10 - 05:14 pm
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"sqachief," ANYTHING that is

"sqachief," ANYTHING that is "pure," is, therefore, "unadulterated." Lookit up.

dichotomy
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dichotomy 02/18/10 - 07:04 pm
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Spare the rod, spoil the

Spare the rod, spoil the child. Truer words were never spoken and we and our permissive society have proven it beyond a doubt. PC and psychobabble have turned our kids into self-centered violent little thugs who become potential murders at 14. On average, we sure used to have much better behaved kids who actually went to school and learned to read, write, and do math when we "abused" their little backsides every once in a while.

gsj612
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gsj612 02/18/10 - 07:58 pm
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I remember being a student at

I remember being a student at A. Brian Merry in the early 80's, and getting a triple beatdown: teacher, principal, and parent. I never misbehaved again. Period.

corgimom
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corgimom 02/19/10 - 10:31 am
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LittleLamb, yes, they get

LittleLamb, yes, they get assigned to grades. And it depends on what the special needs involves. Special needs encompasses so much, you can't really say one way or the other. Autism. Neurological problems. Mental illness. Mental retardation. Down's Syndrome. Severe behavioral problems. Emotionally disturbed. Speech and communication problems. Cerebral palsy. Spina bifida. Vision problems. The list is huge. When you talk about passing classes, some can, some can't. Special needs children are legally entitled to school services from age 3 to 21. Some special needs children can do certain things, but not others.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 02/19/10 - 06:49 pm
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Thank you, Corgi, for

Thank you, Corgi, for responding. I have just been frustrated by the amount of material that continues to be unreported in this story. The repeated harping on corporal punishement by the posters above doesn't add much to the discussion.

corgimom
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corgimom 02/19/10 - 07:03 pm
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Little Lamb, the way I read

Little Lamb, the way I read it, the 13 year old is going into special ed (as in self-contained classroom) and the 12 year old, who didn't hit the teacher, is going to get evaluated. They are going to see if he can be helped and continue to be mainstreamed, but the 13 year old, it's over, it's a done deal. The pendulum is starting to swing back, the anecdotal evidence is clear. There are some children who cannot, and should not, be mainstreamed.

sassylassie
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sassylassie 02/20/10 - 12:45 am
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When will the tribunal system

When will the tribunal system in this county wake up and start actually expelling students from school? I mean, enough is enough. Start putting the responsibility of educating those children who perform these crimes back onto the parents. I mean, there are virtual learning and other GED programs that are available to students. When will the tribunal panel stop listening to crying parents and wake up? I guess it will take one of their family members getting hurt by one of these little brats. I can tell you this; back in the day, when they actually used to paddle kids, we actually used to FEAR the teacher and the principal not to mention mom, dad, grandma, aunt.... Not anymore--there's nothing for them to be afraid of--not even the parents who CREATED them and their poor behavior. Yes, I work within the school system, and yes, I have seen it myself. Every teacher and administrator I know can agree when we discuss that "the apple doesn't fall far from the tree" we can look at the parent and the little child who is JUST LIKE THEM.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 05/06/10 - 03:05 pm
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Thought I would bring this

Thought I would bring this back to the top again. I posted the following on February 18:

You know, it would be nice after all these weeks for the Chronicle to at least mention what grade each of these brothers is/was in. Do "special needs" children actually get assigned to grades, or are they nebulous users of school space and resources, having no accountability to actually pass a class or meet an expectation?

I could have sworn that Preston Sparks made one of those green posts in the comments section saying that the Chronicle had him still on this story and that they would post some more information as it became available. I merely wanted to know what grade this thirteen year old elementary student was in. Nothing yet.

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