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Home shot after boy hurt in crash

Saturday, May 31, 2014 10:10 PM
Last updated Sunday, June 1, 2014 12:50 AM
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Police say no one was injured after a Hephzibah home was shot at several times late Friday.

Deputies say the people inside heard a window break about 11 p.m. at the rear of the home in the 3300 block of Saddlebrook Drive.

Kevin Nicholson, 27, said he was cleaning up the glass when he heard about six or seven shots coming from the front of the house.

A neighbor said he saw two Jeep Cherokees – one red and one black – parked in front of the home. They were last seen traveling east on Saddlebrook Drive.

Deputies determined the house had been struck five times.

Danielle Gregory, 21, was in the house at the time. Earlier in the evening, an incident report says, Gregory struck a 4-year-old boy with her car, causing minor injuries. Gregory told police that a group of people blocked her car and that once she made it through, the boy stepped out from behind an ice cream truck. She said she slammed on her brakes.

Before deputies left the crash scene, a man said he and a group would “get” Gregory.

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Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 05/31/14 - 10:28 pm
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Ice Cream

Man, that part of town must be getting sketchy!

Navy Gary
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Navy Gary 06/01/14 - 07:51 am
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WOW...

The article says:

"BEFORE deputies left the crash scene, a man said he and a group would “get” Gregory."

Why wasn't there a charge and an arrest made for terroristic threats BEFORE the officers left the scene?

I would hazard a guess that had the threats been made against the police officers, there would have been immediate arrests.

myfather15
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myfather15 06/01/14 - 08:45 am
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Why no Terroristic threats charge?

Maybe some people, with their mind reading skills; could trump up some charge on someone for saying their going to "get" someone else. But in the real world, there is this thing called the law and evidence!!

http://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2010/title-16/chapter-11/article-2/1...

Read the code section for terroristic threats and then explain how you would articulate they threatened her!! When they said "get" do you KNOW what they meant? Or are you assuming, since you now know someone shot her house? Remember, when she hit this child; no one had shot her home up, yet. So, when they said "get" were they talking about a civil law suit for hitting the child? Were they talking about obtaining a private warrant for her arrest?

The actual LAW states you must make a threat of VIOLENCE!! Is saying "I'm going to GET you" a threat of violence? Or can it have numerous different meanings? It's not what you know or think you know, it's what you can prove!!

With the limited information I've seen on this, the ONLY thing I could think they MIGHT have been able to charge this person with is disorderly conduct, if they said it directly to her face and it caused an argument (breach of peace) but even that is a stretch!! Read disorderly code section, especially section 3 and see if you think it applies. But keep in mind, these vague words were said BEFORE the house was shot up!!

http://law.justia.com/codes/georgia/2010/title-16/chapter-11/article-2/1...

itsanotherday1
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itsanotherday1 06/01/14 - 08:55 am
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Maybe there were no grounds

Maybe there were no grounds to cite them, but at a minimum the officers should have checked their ID's and admonished them that if the lady has problems, they know who to come looking for.

nocnoc
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nocnoc 06/01/14 - 09:27 am
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Won't have to look far

We know most likely the accident was related to the shooting.

RCSO will not have to take long to track down 2 Jeeps that are related to the incident or the child's family.

Some people just don't think before they act.

myfather15
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myfather15 06/01/14 - 09:40 am
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Agree with both Itsanotherday and nocnoc

The idiot who made the "get" comment should immediately be the main suspect in the shooting. Hopefully, they and their family have already been interviewed and charges are forthcoming.

Also, the officer that heard the comment should have done an miscellaneous incident report to document the statement made; which will have the names of all parties involved in the original accident. This will help the investigation into the shooting.

Most of my comment above was to a certain individual, who never misses an opportunity to bash law enforcement, any given chance. Just pointing out the absurdity of their comment!!

Navy Gary
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Navy Gary 06/01/14 - 10:09 am
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Like I said:

Like I said: Had the "man" said: I am going to "get" you to the police officer, charges would have been immediate. This was a direct threat witnessed by law enforcement. What? Did the officer think he was going to "get" her a cup of coffee?

myfather15
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myfather15 06/01/14 - 10:50 am
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Oooooh, I see Gary!!

We are now suppose to charge people on what we ASSUME they meant!!

"Like I said: Had the "man" said: I am going to "get" you to the police officer, charges would have been immediate."

And your evidence of this is what? How do you KNOW, that charges would have been immediate? I've actually had numerous people make similar comments to me over the years; my response is usually "Good luck, you'll need it." Now, if they say "I'm going to kill you and your family" you're absolutely correct, charges are immediate!!

"This was a direct threat witnessed by law enforcement. What? Did the officer think he was going to "get" her a cup of coffee?"

Direct threat? Did you even read the code section for terroristic threats? Once again, you're ASSUMING what they meant; unless you can prove that you read minds. Good thing you aren't a LE officer!! A lawyer would have an absolute field day with you in court, while you're trying to testify on what the suspect intended with his words. Especially when the suspects says he meant he was going to sue her pants off for hitting the child. But, YOU say he meant violent harm when he said "get" so it must be, right? Nice Monday morning quarterbacking there!! After you know her house was shot up!! But, on the scene of the accident, YOU would have arrested the person saying "get" and when they were found not guilty in criminal court, they would sue you and WIN in civil court; that is unless you prove to the judge you do indeed read minds!!

If reference to LE officers, most of the time people say "I'm going to get you." to a LE officer, it usually means they're going to try and get you fired!! I can't count the amount of times I've been told by someone they are friends with the sheriff, the mayor, governor, Jay-Z, Lebron James, George Clooney, and many more; and then comes the part where they say I'll be flipping burgers by next week!! Well, here 17+ years later, I'm still working!! That is why I say "Good luck, you'll need it".

See, a level headed LE officer (which MOST are) has just about heard it all!! We've been cursed, spit on; kicked, hit, bit and you name it. Someone saying "I'll get you" doesn't mean a darn thing!!

But, who am I to tell you what would happen, when you obviously read minds and know what people will do in any given situation. Have a good day sir.

rational thought trumps emotion
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rational thought trumps emotion 06/01/14 - 10:44 am
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Navy Gary

As normal, you make assumptions of situations regarding law enforcement of which you are clueless. How about this, we will meet up and you give me $100.00 for every video I can show you locally where officers were threatened with mere comments and no charges were made - I could use a few hundred thousand dollars.

The comment rose to the level to make a note in a report with the persons name but clearly does not rise to the level of terroristic threats. The Deputy did his job well and someone like you would be the first to complain if he had made an arrest or multiple arrests that he was harassing people and violating their free speech or trumping up charges, etc. - LEO's will never be right with a mindset such as yours.

Plain and simple, you hate law enforcement, bash them incorrectly often and are generally clueless as to what you are talking about.

myfather15
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myfather15 06/01/14 - 10:55 am
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If Gary was an officer, he

If Gary was an officer, he sounds like he would be similar to Martin from GRU!

"Well, the guy was sitting in the car with the keys in the ignition and the vehicle running, so I knew he was going to run over me and I shot, 10 times!!"

Yep, that's what ASSUMING gets you!! Gary, you do know what you get when you ASSUME, right? You make an A$# out of U and ME!!

There's a piece of law enforcement training for you Gary!! We are taught not to assume anything!!

Navy Gary
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Navy Gary 06/01/14 - 11:13 am
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No, I'm just not

No, I'm just not a "law enforcement" shill like many on here. The constitution reads: of the people, by the people and for the people. Not: of the cop, by the cop and for the cop. "LEO's" are like many religious sects, they are "LEO's" first and citizens second. That thin blue line crappe. They think they are much smarter, much stronger and have more of a right to an opinion than others. They even have their own little bigoted names for citizens they arrest, like skels, perps, unsubs and probably many more. Furthermore, if your attitude on the streets as a cop is anything like your intolerance to differing opinions on here, then my "cop bashing" is not without merit.

Bigoted:
having or revealing an obstinate belief in the superiority of one's own opinions and a prejudiced intolerance of the opinions of others.

proudgunowner
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proudgunowner 06/01/14 - 11:39 am
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Be LEGALLY armed!
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Nothing but vigilante justice in da 'hood. Just wondering if race plays a part in this revenge shooting......

Be LEGALLY armed and be PREPARED to defend yourself. The thugs are taking over.......

Gage Creed
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Gage Creed 06/01/14 - 12:55 pm
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Just assuming...

Navy Gary may have experienced the working end of an ASP baton.... on multiple occasions.

myfather15
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myfather15 06/01/14 - 04:30 pm
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Gary

"Furthermore, if your attitude on the streets as a cop is anything like your intolerance to differing opinions on here, then my "cop bashing" is not without merit."

So, my pointing out that you were legally wrong about charging the person AND your assumption that if the same words were said to a LE officer, we would charge him; that makes me intolerant?

"of the people, by the people and for the people."

Yes, and that means even those I detest, such as the person saying he will "get" her!! Unless I can PROVE what he/she meant by that statement, I can NOT legally arrest and charge them!! So it sounds to me that I'm looking out for the Constitution a little more than you!! You want someone arrested and charge base solely upon YOUR ASSUMPTION of what they meant; when the LAW clearly forbids that. The same law that protects you and I, protect the scum bags too; unless the cross the line. If this person would have said "I'm going to kill you, or beat your butt." That would have been a clear case of terroristic threats; because it's a threat of violence.

I just had the same situation a few weeks ago with a guy and girlfriend. She wanted to report her boyfriend threatening her because he said "You're going to pay for that." Sorry, but you can't prove this is a threat of violence towards her. There are many ways one can make another "pay" for something.

You need to release your anger towards ALL LE officers and judge each situation individually. This isn't just on this thread; I've seen you constantly bashing law enforcement on numerous threads. The vast majority of us are top notch citizens, who care about the community. Yes, of course there will be bad seeds, just as in EVERY profession. Judge a man by the content of HIS character, not by the persons who hold the same professional title as he.

myfather15
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myfather15 06/01/14 - 04:37 pm
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"They think they are much

"They think they are much smarter, much stronger and have more of a right to an opinion than others."

I certainly don't think I'm smarter than anyone; I just try to utilize common sense. Stonger? I'm stronger than some, weaker than others.

Right to opinion? Absolutely!! Everyone has a right to their opinion. But your "opinion" today was legally incorrect. You may have an "opinion" of the law, but the law doesn't care about your opinion; it's written in black and white!! You are wrong, plain and simple. But you didn't just state that you believe they should have charged the person saying "get" because if that's all you would have said, I probably wouldn't have responded period. But you had to take a resentful stab at LE officers; saying they would have charged if the words were directed at them. I just called you out on this assumption; and used the actual Georgia Code for evidence.

janderson1945
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janderson1945 06/01/14 - 07:51 pm
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Opinions

Gary, from what I read here and from what I have seen of your previous posts, you don't state opinions, you try to make them sound like facts even though you have no facts.

Yes, most on here do seem to like the police, and my family certainly is a part of that. But you seem to hate all police, fabricate stories, make assumptions and aren't able to verify or give credibility to anything you say.

What a sad life you must live, filled with hate and clueless as to what you arguing and fighting against.

nocnoc
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nocnoc 06/01/14 - 09:41 pm
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OK I wait all day to give someone else the chance

to crack a joke about the Headline. So .......
"Home shot after boy hurt in crash"

I hope the ER is able to save the house.

Navy Gary
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Navy Gary 06/01/14 - 11:11 pm
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Lies

Lies, all "LEO" propaganda. Spew your rhetoric somwhere else. I know better. I've seen people charged with assault on a police officer for just touching them. Cops charge who they want to charge with whatever they want and other cops will lie for them til the end. Sober up already! The cops dropped the ball here and shouldn't have. They should have made a seperate report and had the names of those that were making the threats. I don't need a roof to fall on my head to know that "i'm going to get you" is a direct threat. If someone says that when the Prez is in town, the Feds will spend millions to hunt them down. Why then can't local cops make a freaking report when a citizen is OBVIOUSLY threatened? The peoples house got shot up after the threat for goodness sake. Obviously, the cop completely misread the entire situation.

beccab13z
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beccab13z 06/02/14 - 04:14 am
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I'm Pretty Sure The Threat Was For The Woman

When I read this "piece" (that DOES appear to be very brief) I took the statements about the threat to mean that while the police were still on the scene of the car accident, that some of/one of the observers of the accident (who, had probably also been the people blocking her car in) took it upon themselves to threaten the woman saying that they will "get" HER (NOT THE OFFICER) because she'd just hit a child with her car-EVEN THOUGH these guys shouldn't be blocking the thoroughfare AND THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN WATCHING OUT FOR THEIR CHILDREN!!

myfather15
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myfather15 06/03/14 - 05:29 am
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Not even worth a response!!

Not even worth a response!! I'm done.

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