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10 guns stolen from Augusta business

Sunday, Aug 4, 2013 9:50 PM
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An Augusta man told police Sunday that someone has stolen 10 guns from the back office of his business.

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About noon, Richmond County deputies were called to 1830 Wylds Road, where Abia Williams told them that he found James Brim, of Arrow Wood Circle, in the back office of Williams’ business, a incident report said.

When Williams asked Brim what he was doing there, Brim left without saying anything. Williams checked his safe and found that 10 guns and $1,000 in cash were missing.

Police say two .45-caliber pistols, a 5.7x28mm pistol loaded with armor piercing rounds, two .380-caliber pistols, a .270-caliber rifle and a .450-caliber rifle were stolen.

Williams told police that he confronted Brim after church, and Brim confessed to picking the rear door of the business. Brim told Williams that he stole the guns June 16, the report said.

However, Williams said the guns were stolen between June 19 and Sunday. Police could not locate Brim at the time of the report.

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fedex227
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fedex227 08/04/13 - 10:38 pm
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"Williams asked Brim ...
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what he was doing there, Brim left without saying anything."

With 10 guns, like in his pocket or what?

fedex227
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fedex227 08/04/13 - 10:47 pm
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"Williams said the guns were stolen between ...
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June 19 and Sunday."

Sunday as in today Sunday? Wait, I thought he found Brim in the back of the office and later confronted him. He couldn't narrow it down any more than sometime between June 19th and August 4th? My head hurts from reading this one. AC why do you do this to me? ;-)

seenitB4
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seenitB4 08/05/13 - 06:46 am
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huh..what am I missing

Williams told police that he confronted Brim after church, and Brim confessed to picking the rear door of the business. Brim told Williams that he stole the guns June 16, the report said.

He said he took the guns...case solved.

Ego556
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Ego556 08/05/13 - 07:13 am
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something stinks!

something stinks!

GnipGnop
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GnipGnop 08/05/13 - 08:02 am
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Gun buy back program at work?

I wonder what the rate of burglaries is in the month before one of these programs....

nocnoc
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nocnoc 08/05/13 - 08:10 am
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Either the owner is confused or the dates are off

As pointed out by others, the basic facts don't jive here?
"About noon (sic August 4th) , Richmond County deputies were called to 1830 Wylds where Abia Williams told them that he found James Brim, of Arrow Wood Circle, in the back office of Williams’ business, a incident report said.Road, ... BUT "Brim told Williams that he stole the guns June 16, the report said.

June 19th to August 4th?

Sure is a long time to wait to report the burglary and theft.

bdouglas
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bdouglas 08/05/13 - 08:36 am
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Makes sense to me...

Sounds to me like the guy hadn't checked the safe since around June 19th. When he caught the guy in his office around lunchtime Sunday, he checked the safe after the guy left. Then he saw the guns and cash were missing. Confronted the guy after church (I'm assuming evening services here) and he confessed to picking the lock and breaking in earlier that day, and also that he took the guns around June 16th. There was no waiting to report the theft because he didn't KNOW about the theft until yesterday when the intruder's presence prompted him to check. I thought it was pretty easy to follow...

nocnoc
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nocnoc 08/05/13 - 08:59 am
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What I am reading ?????

He catches the guy unauthorized in his office he says on June 19th Wed. BUT The Guys says he stole them June 16th,on a Sun.,

He check the safe finds the items missing, but doesn't report them
Until August 4th SUN, or for almost another 2 months?

JRC2024
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JRC2024 08/05/13 - 09:14 am
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I do not open my safe

I do not open my safe everyday and if an employee took something I might not know until a confession was made. I could be several weeks between the stealing and the finding out and the reporting to RCSD. No problem with me there.

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Marinerman1 08/05/13 - 09:19 am
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Theft Is One Thing, But...

Theft is one thing, but what is a civilian doing with armor-piercing rounds? This means it will go through a vest. I'm arresting Williams' BUTT, unless he is authorized to have those rounds in his possession.

Pops
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Pops 08/05/13 - 10:48 am
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Color me stupid

but isn't the purpose of a safe is to LOCK stuff up. I can see picking a door lock but are we dealing with Harry Houdini here?

bdouglas
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bdouglas 08/05/13 - 03:20 pm
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@nocnoc

August 4 - Mid-day, owner visits office to find man known to him has broken in. Man flees premises. Owner checks safe (since unauthorized man was found on premises, obviously), finds 10 guns and $1000 cash missing. Owner calls cops. Cops arrive. Owner tells cops he found unauthorized man in his office and about the 10 guns and $1000 are missing.

August 4 - (Presumably) later that night at church - Owner confronts man, man admits he broke in the office earlier that day. Owner likely/presumably also questions him about the missing guns and money.

June 16 - Date that unauthorized man said he took the guns (my guess is that this was just an approximation).

June 19 - One would logically assume this is the last date that the owner knows for sure the guns and money were still present in the safe. i.e. The last time he checked the safe until yesterday when he found the unauthorized man in his office.

Nothing in the article says the guns were stolen on June 19th.

bdouglas
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bdouglas 08/05/13 - 11:37 am
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@Marinerman

It's not illegal to possess armor piercing rounds unless you're committing a violent crime or drug trafficking. It is illegal to make or import armor piercing rounds, but you can buy, sell, trade, own or shoot them to your heart's content as long as you're not in possession of them while committing a violent crime or drug trafficking. Additionally, you cannot buy, sell or trade them as a licensed FFL.

So unless Mr. Williams was committing a violent crime with those rounds in his possession or engaging in drug trafficking, there is nothing you can do with his BUTT.

rmwhitley
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rmwhitley 08/05/13 - 04:19 pm
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I'll be willing
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to bet the gun thieves are "white cracker" Tea Partiers. Just ask rangel?

gargoyle
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gargoyle 08/05/13 - 07:02 pm
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Many consider 5.7x28 armor

Many consider 5.7x28 armor piercing when they see the polymer tip and hear the reputation of that round. What I've seen is sport ammo claimed to be piercing but there is some NATO and Police ammo floating about

Gage Creed
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Gage Creed 08/05/13 - 08:31 pm
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gargoyle... like Nosler

gargoyle... like Nosler Ballistic Tip?

gargoyle
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gargoyle 08/05/13 - 10:22 pm
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Hornady V Max I believe...

Hornady V Max I believe... looked at it a few years ago but alas too finicky to roll your own and expensive and in short supply to buy so I passed. Very interesting caliber and package to put it in.

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Darby 08/05/13 - 10:46 pm
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Wait... I'm confused....

"I can't think about that right now. If I do, I'll go crazy. I'll think about that tomorrow."

With a nod to Scarlett O'Hara

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