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Most of Greenbrier soccer team will attend alternative school for drinking episode

2 players absolved and allowed to return to school

Friday, March 29, 2013 10:19 AM
Last updated Saturday, March 30, 2013 2:23 AM
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More than half of Green­brier High School’s boys varsity soccer team will finish the school year at the Columbia County Alternative School.

Greenbrier High School principal Chris Segraves says he believes the soccer players who broke the school system code of conduct should face consequences.  JIM BLAYLOCK/STAFF
JIM BLAYLOCK/STAFF
Greenbrier High School principal Chris Segraves says he believes the soccer players who broke the school system code of conduct should face consequences.

Eighteen of the team’s 25 players were kicked off the team and suspended from school last week pending a disciplinary hearing Friday morning.

Before the hearing, two players withdrew from the school system and 10 others waived their right to a hearing and opted to attend the alternative school.

The remaining six went before the school system hearing officer Friday. Four were ordered to attend the alternative school, while two were absolved of wrongdoing and allowed to return to Greenbrier.

The students were accused of drinking alcohol during a team trip to Jekyll Island for a tournament March 14-16. The drinking supposedly took place mainly in hotel rooms. Two of the players, Superintendent Charles Nagle said, also admitted to smoking spice, which is synthetic marijuana.

Principal Chris Segraves said he’s disappointed that his students were put in such a position by breaking the school system code of conduct, but he said he believes the students need to reap the consequences of their actions.

“This was their decision,” Segraves said, “They are the ones that put themselves in this position. And I’m sorry it happened.”

Students who are attending the alternative school “are not allowed to attend any function on campus until their suspensions are complete,” which includes proms, Nagle said, but seniors will be allowed to attend graduation if they’ve met the academic requirements.

Segraves said he and staff are reviewing and amending the school’s travel protocol.

He hopes other students take a lesson from this episode.

“I want folks to learn from it whether it is in our school or any other high school, that this type of action is just not accepted and there are consequences for it,” he said.

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GiantsAllDay
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GiantsAllDay 03/29/13 - 10:27 am
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Gonna bust their b**** on

Gonna bust their b**** on Good Friday. I'm sure Jesus would approve.

Fiat_Lux
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Fiat_Lux 03/29/13 - 11:22 am
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It's no wonder the rest of the world laughs at us

when it comes to stuff like this.

If we had a clue about how to train our kids regarding alcohol, things like this would NEVER happen. By the time boys in Italy are in high school, there focus is on their futures and not on how to score booze.

We waste our children's potential so needlessly, and what idiots we are to do it over something that could be dealt with so easily.

CobaltGeorge
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CobaltGeorge 03/29/13 - 12:10 pm
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Yes,

We are a country known around the world as "The Knee Jerking" America.

Mr. Thackeray
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Mr. Thackeray 03/29/13 - 12:53 pm
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"Train our kids...." Are you

"Train our kids...." Are you nuts? This is NOT "our" faults. Place the blame where blame belongs. As for Italy, try this on for size: http://www.theworld.org/2009/07/underage-drinking-in-italy/

Fiat_Lux
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Fiat_Lux 03/29/13 - 02:47 pm
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Yes, it is our fault.

You picked one article--really, a man-on-the-street interview-- to refute my point? Even if all Italian adolescents are drinking like fish now, it doesn't change the reality that TRAINING your children about responsible use of alcohol makes all the difference in the world how they deal with it on their own, REGARDLESS of the legal age for purchasing it or drinking it in public.

But more to the point, it's the complete over-reaction to the boys' misbehavior that inspires genuine mockery. These nitwits would use a bazooka to deal with an infestation of cockroaches.

What a waste.

Red Headed Step Child
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Red Headed Step Child 03/29/13 - 03:13 pm
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IMO, you can "train" your

IMO, you can "train" your kids all you want on being responsible, but there are no guarantees that they are going to listen to you. Growing up, I was around kids whose parents I KNOW preached against drinking, gave all the lectures about responsibility, were the perfect role models, etc. and guess who'd be at school on Monday morning bragging about the party they went to that weekend and got drunker than Cooter Brown? The parents did all they could to positively influence those kids, and the kids still did dumb things - it's GOING to happen.

I get what you're saying, @Fiat, but at the end of the day, all the "training" in the world is worthless unless the recipient chooses to apply it. That's the funny thing about choice - we don't always make the right one - as these kids have found out. Let's hope they learn from their mistakes...

palmetto1008
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palmetto1008 03/29/13 - 04:34 pm
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You make and good point and I
Unpublished

You make and good point and I agree with you, Fiat, but there is also the adage: "When in Rome, do as the Romans do."

dstewartsr
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dstewartsr 03/29/13 - 04:34 pm
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A sports team drinking

... at an away game. Yeah, the world is coming to an end. Puh-leeeze! In those dark early days when I was playing sports in school, an occasional quaff of mead was nothing to cause such an uproar. A butt chewing followed (the next morning, of course) by several thousand laps was the usual way coaches dealt with the problem.

Fiat_Lux
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Fiat_Lux 03/29/13 - 05:44 pm
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DStewartSr

That was back when educators had sense and sometimes even wisdom instead of today's craven political fear.

I feel sorry for these boys. They would have been just as instructed without having had such huge negative get dumped on them. I simply do not understand how (supposedly) smart people can be so obtuse about teenagers.

GiantsAllDay
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GiantsAllDay 03/29/13 - 05:55 pm
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So, the punishment was the

So, the punishment was the same whether they confessed initially or went to tribunal. Kids, there was a lesson learned here today. Know what it is? The hippies of the 60's were prophets. "Don't trust anyone over 30".

Sweet son
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Sweet son 03/29/13 - 06:07 pm
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Fiat is RIGHT!!!

"But more to the point, it's the complete over-reaction to the boys' misbehavior that inspires genuine mockery. These nitwits would use a bazooka to deal with an infestation of cockroaches."

The Columbia County Board and it's officials have made themselves look like bad!!! Fiat has hit the nail on the head with his assessment of the situation. Maybe the activities were "criminal" per the Georgia Code but ALL of us who were students at some point have done more than what the soccer players did and were handled within the realm of the activity. We hope that Nagle, Seagraves and Capt. Morris are happy with their "knee jerk" reaction as quoted by Cobalt George.

There is certainly more troublesome activity going within the CCBOE than this! Get real!

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 03/29/13 - 08:14 pm
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Spice Smoking

On the Austin Rhodes Radio Program an anonymous caller alleged that the spice smoking was done on the bus (he did not say whether headed to Jekyll or coming home), and that the coached knew about the smoke in the back of the bus and did nothing but point out that he knew.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 03/29/13 - 08:23 pm
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Early Release

Also, on a different Austin Rhodes Radio Program a different anonymous caller alleged that students sent to the Alternative School for a specified term have been allowed to go back to their zoned school early because there were "not enough teachers" at the Alternative School to meet desired guidelines.

That dirty little secret has probably been going on a lo-o-o-ong time and probably all over the state.

The school systems will not inform the public, so the parents of students who behave need to scream out in the news media. The news media cannot spend good money on unending freedom of information requests as to who was released early from Alternative School.

Early release from Alternative School — if it's good enough for Reidsville, I guess it's good enough for our students.

dstewartsr
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dstewartsr 03/29/13 - 08:40 pm
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Fiat "...back when educators had sense..."

Teachers had sense; from my own experience I will state categorically anyone calling themselves an "educator" is nothing more than an "indoctrination technician". Teachers teach, and their ranks are dwindling both by retirement and disgust at dealing with educator's bureacratic career ladder climbing.

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statingtheobvious 03/29/13 - 11:20 pm
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Why do we hold teens more accountable than their authority?

This case is disturbing on many levels. These boys have watched this behavior go unchallenged for years. They are invincible teenagers and assume that they can outdo previous years and continue to walk away injury free. The coaches had approximately 50 teenagers under their responsibility. I do not understand how 2 coaches, an assistant/parent and a bus driver are sufficient overseers of that number of coed athletes. Parents that attended could not stay on site. No one was brought in to chaperone. Teenagers make stupid decisions and pay a heavy punishment. The coaches and school make even dumber decisions and say they will review and amend policy. They hold the kids to a zero tolerance policy but not their own staff.

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wgcopeland 03/30/13 - 04:27 am
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Really??!!!!..

....oh so you guys in control in the administration tryna flex?!!...they're teenagers,get real,...u need 2 concentrate on getting all ur teachers certified,..and I'm forreal,... chek da files!!!!

jmo
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jmo 03/30/13 - 05:29 am
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wgc

What did you say? lol

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soapy_725 03/30/13 - 08:03 am
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They were just representing their school.
Unpublished

Carrying ona family tradition. Look at the CCSO crime incidents on Riverwood Plantation. No harm no foul. No absolutes. No moral compass. Their parents are the same.

Bizkit
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Bizkit 03/30/13 - 09:06 am
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They knowingly did something

They knowingly did something wrong and got caught and now punished-seems the same now as the last 50 years. They don't have a criminal record, they get to go to school and graduate. Everything seems fine here-time to move along. They are "learning" their morality so it seems there is a good moral to the story. Obviously many posters never learned the moral. Both offenses were wrong and illegal so the fact they have no criminal record seems they've been given a big break. If it were my child I would insist on the punishment-just as my parents did with me. So is the counter argument to let them off with a verbal reprimand and attend school the conquering heroes of gettin' away with it just to encourage more bad behaviors? Or just ignore it ever happened.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 03/30/13 - 09:21 am
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Greenbrier 14

Okay, so fourteen boys are supposed to finish out this school year at the Alternative School. Of course, that's less than two months. Then they'll be back in Greenbrier next year, except for those that graduate.

Does the Alternative School grant diplomas and hold graduation ceremonies?

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Fiat_Lux 03/30/13 - 01:14 pm
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@Biskit

Go back and read again. Condemning this outrageous over-punishment doesn't, as many who adore straw men seem to think, mean foregoing all punishment and letting these boys get away with doing something stupid and forbidden. Don't you dare try to cast those of us who use reason and proportion in our dealings as some kind of permissive idiots. Most of us prefer to instruct and form our children rather than let some disinterested, monolithic third party decided the best way to punish them, which usually constitutes crushing them and potentially ruining their opportunities for the future without any need for it.

You might go back and read what "Statingtheobvious" wrote, for a little insight. My parents didn't put up with any of us stepping a toe out of line, but they sure as heck protected us from the stupid, mindless misapplication of an inappropriately harsh one-size-fits-all punishment.

The idiot so-called educators slavishly follow rules that rarely fit the people to whom they are applied, even when they know they are dealing with children who simply made a mistake and are unlikely to need a harsh reaction to avoid doing anything of the kind ever again.

Alternative schools are for "students" who have behavioral problems so bad that they are unfit or even dangerous for normal schools. These boys don't fall into that category at all. In fact, sending them to an alternative school might actually put them at risk.

No kid should get kicked out of his own school for drinking, unless there is some far more serious outcome attached, like driving under the influence, or having someone die from binge consumption, or shooting off guns. The punishment should fit the crime and this does not.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 03/30/13 - 02:22 pm
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Hey, that caller to Austin Rhodes Radio Program said they were releasing students to go back to their zoned school early because of lack of resources. Maybe the Greenbrier 14 will get out early for good behavior. They only have to go to Alternative School for two months.

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Bizkit 03/30/13 - 05:39 pm
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My bet the punishment would

My bet the punishment would include everything but kickin' them off the soccer team eh?

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cheeringonthedawgs 04/01/13 - 07:20 am
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I really could care less

I really could care less about the punishment handed down to these athletes. My only concern that they ALL be dealt with. Yes athletes when they are away from town tend to get rowdy one way or another and need to be reined in, but what bothered me was some of the facebook and twitter comments about the incident. Maybe we should let the parents know how their little angels correspond to one another. There was a TOTAL lack of respect for their school as well and their upbringing. I would have been grounded for the mere thought much less putting it to paper over the internet.

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