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Boy brings gun to church event

Sunday, Feb. 24, 2013 5:55 PM
Last updated 10:03 PM
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A 14-year-old boy brought a gun to an event for children at First Baptist Church of North Augusta on Friday, according to a North Augusta Public Safety incident report.

A public safety lieutenant found the .45-caliber Glock 21 in the boy’s jacket after another juvenile told him others had spotted the gun in the area where they left jackets and backpacks.

The boy admitted the jacket was his but said he forgot the gun was there, according to the report. The boy was released to his mother, who told the lieutenant the gun belonged to her husband and should not have been in her son’s possession.

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burninater
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burninater 02/25/13 - 06:32 pm
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I'm sure the courts would

I'm sure the courts would disagree with you there... but if that's your position and you won't listen to reason, then we'll have to just agree to disagree.
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No Darby, I repeat: that was YOUR position. Your 4:24 post is still there, you can see it for yourself. Exceptionally strange that you would try to frame your position as suddenly being my unreasonable position, but there you go.

As far as kids running around with guns being a horrible idea, I fully agree. I am entirely comfortable with infringing the right to bear arms. I don't think the current volume of, access to, and lethality of modern firearms was conceivable to those who wrote the Second Amendment.

I just want you to fully understand that you also believe that in order to maintain a civil society the right to bear arms must necessarily be infringed.

Darby
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Darby 02/25/13 - 06:47 pm
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Hey, now we're getting somewhere....

@burninator - "I just want you to fully understand that you also believe that in order to maintain a civil society the right to bear arms must necessarily be infringed".
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While I will NEVER support a change of any kind to the Second Amendment, I wholeheartedly encourage you to give it your best shot. (NPI) Then when you fail to get two-thirds of the Congress and three-fourths of the states to agree, either shut up about it or go back and try again. And keep trying for as long as you can draw a breath.

I think that's a great idea...

Is your favorite fictional character Cervantes' Don Quixote?

Darby
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Darby 02/25/13 - 06:49 pm
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Now I'm going to take the wife out...

to eat.

Somewhere she got this crazy idea that since she broke her leg, we should eat out rather than have her cook. Can you imagine????

burninater
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burninater 02/25/13 - 06:56 pm
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However, even Webster takes a

However, even Webster takes a different approach than you do.
1: showing an analogy or a likeness that permits one to draw an analogy.
Nothing there about being exactly the same.
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Darby, an analogy is meaningless if it doesn't compare like with like.

Comparing infringement of an infringeable right to infringement of an uninfringeable right would be apple to oranges. That is a comparison, not an analogy.

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burninater 02/25/13 - 06:57 pm
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Ha! Those ladies and their

Ha! Those ladies and their demands :-) Enjoy!

burninater
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burninater 02/25/13 - 08:34 pm
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"While I will NEVER support a

"While I will NEVER support a change of any kind to the Second Amendment, I wholeheartedly encourage you to give it your best shot. (NPI) Then when you fail to get two-thirds of the Congress and three-fourths of the states to agree, either shut up about it or go back and try again. And keep trying for as long as you can draw a breath."
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Sigh. I guess your Don Quixote comment is too appropriate, because the bit of your post I pasted here makes it seem like you missed my whole point.

My whole point was to illustrate to you that you, as a rational conservative, ALREADY support infringements of the right to bear arms. Not only do you support them, but you view them to be plain old COMMON SENSE. Your words, not mine.

A change to the Second Amendment is not needed. What IS needed is for more people to understand what they already support. It is neither logical or rational to on one hand hold the the right to bear arms to be Constitutionally uninfringeable, and on the other hand to claim that infringements are both necessary and plain old COMMON SENSE.

Darby
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Darby 02/25/13 - 09:49 pm
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Hey, Burninator, I'm back and we did enjoy.....

our meal. Thanks for the good wishes. Actually, my wife has been a good sport about the broken leg and my constant kidding.
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If you will indulge me, I'd like to attempt one more point. Not so much to change your mind because I know that's not going to happen.

I'd just like to point out that our law and our constitution was and is based on established English law. Under English law, a child was and is not able to enter into any kind of legal contract. Therefore, there is no "infringement" actual or implied by forbidding a child from carrying a loaded weapon. That law was in place many, many years prior to 1787.

I will admit however that my choice of words, regarding a license and a child in the same breath was unfortunate and gratuitous. For that, let me admit culpability. (Like I have a choice. I was in error there.)

As I said, I don't expect to change your mind, but I do hope that our exchanges on this board have helped some who might have been wavering in their support of the Second Amendment.

It's been fun, and maybe, just maybe you and I can find something we can, one day, agree upon.

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alannabug 02/27/13 - 12:59 pm
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people being so mislead by all this.....

yes a 14 year old had a gun but the kid is not a bad kid he didn't know had the gun on him the family likes to hunt. so does he, he didn't think to look to see if he had the gun on him before going to church that night. what i want people to understand is that this could of happened to anyone's child that owns gun(s) this could have been one of y'all children or grandchildren!!!!!!!!!! people need to respect each other and not dog them when the don't know the whole story!!!!!

Darby
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Darby 02/28/13 - 06:18 pm
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"he didn't know had the gun on him"....

Please cut us some slack. A Glock .45??? Are you kidding??? In a jacket pocket??? Do you know how much that thing weighs???

I carry a .40 caliber and I couldn't have it in a jacket pocket without knowing it.

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