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Lilburn motorist in wrong driveway shot dead

Suburban Atlanta man, 69, facing murder charges

Tuesday, Jan. 29, 2013 7:04 AM
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LILBURN, Ga. — Police say a 69-year-old suburban Atlanta man faces a murder charge after authorities say he shot and killed a 22-year-old man who had pulled into his driveway.

 Gwinnett County Jail records show that Phillip Walker Sailors was being held on a murder charge after the Saturday night shooting in Lilburn, northeast of Atlanta.

 An arrest warrant states that 22-year-old Rodrigo Abad Diaz of Duluth was shot in the head as he tried to drive away from Sailors’ home.

 Sailors’ attorney, Michael Puglise, tells The Atlanta Journal-Constitution that he was home with his wife late at night, and assumed the young man arrived for a home invasion.

 Puglise says Sailors was defending his home and maintains his innocence.

 Lilburn police declined to release additional information about the circumstances of the shooting.

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seenitB4
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seenitB4 01/29/13 - 07:30 pm
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The latest per 6pm news Atlanta

Now they are saying that the car (driver) accelerated toward the old man....almost hitting him...so stay tuned for next tidbit....I'm sure we will hear bits/pieces....
If I am in fear for my life it won't matter if the thug is in my yard or house..I will use my weapon...no pc from me..

thauch12
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thauch12 01/29/13 - 07:40 pm
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An interesting link from

An interesting link from another source: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/01/29/georgia-man-guns-down-immigrant-af...

It seems as if this was an instance of "shoot first, ask questions later." Is it justifiable? I personally don't think so but I'll leave that up to a judge to decide.

seenitB4
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seenitB4 01/29/13 - 08:11 pm
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Why some sre so antsy...

Typical news story....

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Gwinnett Police are looking for two suspects who shot a man and robbed another outside the Rockbridge Road Walmart Saturday morning about 2:50 a.m.

The suspects, both black males, were armed with a semi-automatic handgun, possibly a .40 calibre Glock, according to a police media release.

They approached two separate shoppers in the parking lot, shooting one, a 35-year-old male, in the leg when "he did not understand their demands and continued to walk towards the store," the report said.

The other victim, a 20-year-old male, handed over his keys, wallet and cell phone. The suspects took his car and left the scene. That vehicle is described as a blue 2010 Honda Fit with Georgia tag PFE8356.

The incident happened just outside Lilburn at the Walmart located at 1825 Rockbridge Road in Stone Mountain.

Gwinnett Police reviewed Walmart security footage and found that the assailants arrived in a red Honda Civic that had been taken in a carjacking Friday in Atlanta. It was located at the shopping center and impounded.

The shooting victim was transported to Gwinnett Medical Center with non-life threatening injuries. Gwinnett Police are asking for anyone with information about this crime to call 770-513-5700.
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Grandpa Jones
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Grandpa Jones 01/29/13 - 08:19 pm
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...

When I got my driver's license, the first warning my dad gave me was to avoid turning around in other people's driveways. As my dad stated, "this is a quick way of getting shot!"

Condolence to this motorist.

TK3
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TK3 01/29/13 - 08:21 pm
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Guilty until proven inocent is NOT how its supposed to be!

From what I gather from various sources;

Late at night, strange car in driveway, full of "who knows who" and when they didn't leave the home owner gets a gun and fires a warning shot and when they then try to hit him with their car, he fired at it and stopped the car.

thauch12
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thauch12 01/29/13 - 08:43 pm
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@seenit, if you're to be

@seenit, if you're to be believed Atlanta seems like it's a regular third-world country! Unfortunately it isn't and your examples seem to do more fear mongering than point proving (after all, I can tell you millions of people who go about their lives everyday in Atlanta without fear of these kind of isolated incidents).

CobaltGeorge
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CobaltGeorge 01/29/13 - 09:36 pm
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If Sailors

can prove and is the case that they tried to run him down......He is Innocent. Period!

KSL
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KSL 01/29/13 - 09:38 pm
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I would totally agree, CG.

I would totally agree, CG.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 01/29/13 - 10:49 pm
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He said; They said

The passengers in the car will say they were as clean as the driven snow. The homeowner will say the car lurched toward him and he was afraid for his safety. The judge or the jury will sort it out. I would think that the passengers have less credibility than the homeowner.

palmetto1008
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palmetto1008 01/29/13 - 11:20 pm
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Exactly WHY would you think
Unpublished

Exactly WHY would you think that, Little Lamb?? Please, enlighten me.

seenitB4
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seenitB4 01/30/13 - 03:42 am
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thauch12

No Atlanta is not a 3rd world country & I hope it never gets that way...but if you don't see an increase in crime in all parts....well maybe you are not looking ....
It bothers me that now I have to be on guard when at the mall....the park....anytime I park my car....I live in a fairly safe portion of Gwinnett but I'm not blind & can see the danger & not to mention the news keeps it flowing 24/7....soo if you are satisfied that things are just fine...great....& good luck.

seenitB4
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seenitB4 01/30/13 - 05:12 am
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BTW thauch12

There are parts of Atlanta that you couldn't pay me enough money to live in...just saying...

seenitB4
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seenitB4 01/30/13 - 05:21 am
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crime rate in Atlanta

http://www.neighborhoodscout.com/ga/atlanta/crime/

Please note....chance of becoming a victim in Atlanta in property crime....1 in 13

and you are welcome..I don't like those odds myself...

Riverman1
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Riverman1 01/30/13 - 07:21 am
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It will come down to the

It will come down to the criminal records of all involved as to who will be believed. I suspect those in the car have records and the homeowner doesn't.

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TruckChix 01/30/13 - 07:25 am
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The "Gun Freak" as HW3rd called him....

Sailors is described as an honorably discharged military veteran, a Christian missionary active in his church and a bus driver with no criminal history.

* Police arrived at 10:15pm... so it was this shooting occured rather late in the evening.

* "This particular area has a pretty high crime rate, a lot of home invasions, drug trafficking, just not pleasant activity in the area," the house next door to Sailors' had been broken into in the past two weeks.

* Sailors saw two people running by his car and "assumed they were up to no good," Puglise said. He went outside and fired a warning shot into the air. He says the people were back in the car and the car moved in his direction, which is when he shot, according to Puglise.

This site gives a good bit more information:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/gps-mistake-allegedly-leads-deadly-driveway-sho...

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Riverman1 01/30/13 - 07:47 am
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Good Article TruckChix

The homeowner has no record. Two men had been out of the car running in his yard. The GPS in the car should be checked to determine whether it was set to find an address near this house.

Plus, there's another issue. Was the INTENT of the man to commit murder or to defend himself? Even if you are misguided and kill someone you think is trying to harm you or your family, that's not murder. There is no malice aforethought.

An example that used to be given many decades ago was of a driver who had just come back from a war rounding a bend and seeing a policeman aiming a radar gun at him. The driver thought it was a real gun, panicked and ran over the officer. No malice aforethought.

thauch12
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thauch12 01/30/13 - 12:12 pm
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@seenit, stop fear mongering!

@seenit, stop fear mongering! Your crime website is cute with its pie-in-the-sky crime indices, but you realize that means absolutely nothing right! Look at the real facts:

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/crime-law/atlanta-homicides-2nd-lowest-in-5...

http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-forward/2012/11/08/going-beyond-crime-stats/

So yes, I've looked and in fact, there isn't "an increase in crime in all parts" as you so categorically assert. In fact, it has been the EXACT OPPOSITE. Crime levels have dropped!

The facts speak for themselves: Atlanta is a big city and crime happens, but there is no need to live in crippling fear with one finger on the trigger at all times. I do agree with you that there are parts of the city I would never live in. There are also parts of Augusta, Georgia and Boise, Idaho I would never live in. What's your point? Every city has its bad parts. To judge an entire metropolitan area like Atlanta based on its less desirable parts is not fair when you consider its gems like Buckhead, Druid Hills, Perimeter, etc. which are definitely safe areas.

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dichotomy 01/30/13 - 12:20 pm
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"You can defend your life and

"You can defend your life and property INSIDE your home, but not OUTSIDE."

Well, that is no longer true. It's called stand your ground. Applies inside and outside. Even outside I will not stand there and watch someone steal my property. And I assure you, if you pull into my driveway late at night, GPS or not, I will be out to greet you and instruct you to leave my property. Common sense should tell you not to whip into someone's driveway late at night nowadays.

Like I said, this man crossed the line when he fired as this car was leaving. He may have even crossed the line when he fired a shot into the air. BUT, just for personal curiosity, I still want to hear more about the upstanding young men in that car, and whether their GPS had actually been programmed to find an address nearby, and if there was actually a GPS mapping error. And I want to hear what transpired during the confrontation.

seenitB4
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seenitB4 01/30/13 - 01:26 pm
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thauch12

said,,,
but there is no need to live in crippling fear with one finger on the trigger at all times.

I'm not ......finger is not on the trigger ether...sooo if you want to pay for my posting YOU can tell me how/when to post but until then,.....so worry about your posts & I will worry about mine.....
Anytime I post an untruth on here I'm sure Sean the Man will delete it.....until then happy posting.....
If any posts have been fake please let me know.....you seem to be charge of all truth....as the world turns...

seenitB4
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seenitB4 01/30/13 - 01:34 pm
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strange ...

Just a few weeks ago I was blamed for NEVER admitting any crime existed in my area (remember ctyman) now I'm accosted for admitting crime is here ....sometimes you can't please all folks....so I'm not trying....
It is a no-win situation.....

seenitB4
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seenitB4 01/30/13 - 01:36 pm
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Gwinnett county

We have had an increase in homicides.....fyi.

seenitB4
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seenitB4 01/30/13 - 02:13 pm
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Dang thauch12

It seems you have a problem with others on the renaming of the college...now I realize I'm in great company ....soo blast away...

You evidently know what is best for the city of Augusta too...
---your comments-----stop your fear mongering please...

They picked the best from what they had

This squabbling over GRU is exactly the kind of nonsense that keeps Augusta from achieving its full potential. Let's consider the other options...

University of Augusta: Unfortunately, this is not only about Augusta or ASU. ASU's primary purpose is to educate locals in the Augusta area and as such, its drawing area is small (comparatively) and it is largely a commuter school. GHSU/MCG is a multi-million dollar research institution that serves the entire state of Georgia not just Augusta. To put things in perspective, it would look silly (from the national perspective) to have the state's only public medical school be named the "University of Augusta."

seenitB4
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seenitB4 01/30/13 - 02:24 pm
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Not cool

Somehow I feel I will never be cool .....dang..:)

thauch12
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thauch12 01/30/13 - 06:51 pm
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@seenit 1. It's creepy that

@seenit
1. It's creepy that you would look back so far into the posts I've made.
2. Do you know what fear mongering means? Better question, what do my views on GRU have to do anything, much less fear mongering?
3. Someone needs to teach you how to have a debate. We have these things called facts (backed with up with another thing we call sources).
4. Where is Sean Moores when you need him?

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freeradical 01/30/13 - 07:31 pm
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Something stinks . And me

Something stinks .

And me thinks the associated press is feeling more than a little

burned at this point with the way their gun agenda is not working .

seenitB4
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seenitB4 01/30/13 - 07:37 pm
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Manners come in handy

Try it sometimes....the debate is over...if you have a problem with my posts take it up sean......that would be coool...goodnight..

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Riverman1 01/30/13 - 09:04 pm
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Thauch12, it's kind of scary

Thauch12, it's kind of scary the way you react to SeenIt's comments.

thauch12
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thauch12 01/30/13 - 09:38 pm
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Haha, I suppose you're right

Haha, I suppose you're right Riverman...facts can be pretty scary sometimes!

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