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18-year-old killed, 1 injured in Dogwood Terrace shooting

Friday, Dec. 28, 2012 7:15 PM
Last updated Saturday, Dec. 29, 2012 1:56 AM
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An Augusta man who turned 18 last week was killed and another person was sent to the hospital after a shooting following a robbery attempt Friday evening outside Dogwood Terrace apartments.

Richmond County Deputy Coroner Kenneth Boose identified the victim as Trezmaine Jessie Williams. He was pronounced dead at 7:20 p.m. in the 2000 block of First Avenue.  SUMMER MOORE/STAFF
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Richmond County Deputy Coroner Kenneth Boose identified the victim as Trezmaine Jessie Williams. He was pronounced dead at 7:20 p.m. in the 2000 block of First Avenue.


Richmond County Deputy Coroner Kenneth Boose identified the victim as Trezmaine Jessie Williams. He was pronounced dead at 7:20 p.m. in the 2000 block of First Avenue.

Dontavius Payne, also 18, was in critical condition at the Medical College of Georgia Hospital, according to Richmond County Sheriff’s Lt. Blaise Dresser, who said the sheriff’s office took one person into custody.

Police received the call around 6:30 p.m. to the 2000 block of Second Avenue. When they arrived, they discovered Payne with several gunshot wounds lying in the fire lane. Payne was sent to Medical College of Georgia Hospital where he underwent emergency surgery, Dresser said. 

Dresser said it appeared Williams ran from the scene, collapsed and died on First Avenue.

An autopsy will be performed today in Atlanta, Boose said.

Investigators said Payne and Williams attempted to rob Marcus Gainey, 30, who was able to find a weapon and shoot the two teenagers in what Dresser said was self-defense. 

Both Payne and Williams had active felony warrants for armed robbery and possession of a firearm during the commission of a crime in an unrelated case, Dresser said. 

Lakisha Moore said she and her three children would be moving out of the neighborhood after Friday’s shooting.

“It’s too much,” she said. “I got young kids. They don’t need to be around this mess.”

Jamie White, also from Second Avenue, said he and his friends had heard the shots. He said he originally thought it was fireworks or kids playing basketball, but when deputies arrived, he realized what had happened.

“It’s so sad,” White said. “Why do people have to shoot each other like this?”

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Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 12/29/12 - 04:05 pm
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Second Chance

From the story:

Both Payne and Williams had active felony warrants for armed robbery and possession of a firearm during the commission of a crime in an unrelated case, Lt. Blaise Dresser said.

Perhaps we should consider that the crime described in the story was their second chance.

myfather15
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myfather15 12/29/12 - 04:11 pm
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He should be!!

"Giants will get critized for his comment but it seems they are causing the most problems."

This comment is so shallow and egotistical it's stunning. First of all, for this person to criticize other peoples' naming of their children is absurd. Who are you sir to tell ANYONE what to name their children? What exactly does their name have to do with their actions? Why do you feel so important as to tell other people, their children's names aren't appropriate? So, you're not judging people by the color of their skin, but by their first name?? Are you serious? So seriously, are you saying that because ANY person's name is Dontavious or Tremaine, they shouldn't be considered for a job? So, since you don't approve of OTHER PEOPLE naming their OWN children. Maybe in your communist world you will legislate people must name their children Chris, Mike, John, Mark, Larry, Joe, etc. Sound better to you?

You absolutely have some serious communist views, don't you? You want to take innocent people who haven't committed a single crime (besides being poor) and put a curfew on them? Yes, I've been a Deputy Sheriff for 15 years, I've lived and seen it. Yes, there are lot of criminals living in that housing. But there are also MANY good people living there, who haven't done ANYTHING to anyone. But you want to take away their rights saying; "ALL residents of section 8 should have a curfew."

Then you go on to say; "All of them, all ages, have to be indoors. If the taxpayers are paying the rent, then they shouldn't be ABLE to object to such a requirement."

So, you want to take away peoples right to object to a certain treatment? This is pure communism!! Because they are not so well off, and living in government assisted housing, you want to strip them of their humanity? Because they get government money, the taxpayers should be able to tell them EXACTLY how they may live their lives? There is certain things I do believe in with government housing, such as drug testing, limitations on the number of persons who can live in one apartment. I can't agree with FORCING people to be inside, when they haven't committed a crime. I can't agree with taking away peoples rights to object and voice their opinions because they accept money from the taxpayers.

Boy, with this kind of compassion, we certainly don't need heartless people in the world.

Patty-P
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Patty-P 12/29/12 - 05:16 pm
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I agree

with myfather15. Not everyone living in section 8 is bad. I also think it was pretty tacky to criticize the naming of a person's child(ren). It really has nothing to do with this tragedy.

specsta
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specsta 12/29/12 - 05:44 pm
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@myfather15

You and I disagree quite a bit on these comment boards, but your comment @ 3:11pm is brilliant. One of the best rebuttals I've read so far.

itsanotherday1
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itsanotherday1 12/29/12 - 07:04 pm
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For the record, I support his

For the record, I support his 3:11 as well.

jahnardluv
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jahnardluv 12/29/12 - 07:19 pm
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???

So just because the law says theyre 18, your going to seriously say they have the mentality of an adult? Be for real. Do you recall when the law allowed 15yr olds to get married, and to whatever age they pleased? So would you consider them grown? And the law only calls them adults so they can give them adult sentences. 18yr olds can't buy alcohol nor legally possess a pistol, but theyre grown. And remember that the youth are the future, leaving old farts in office is exactly why this country is moving backwards!

myfather15
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myfather15 12/29/12 - 07:49 pm
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@Giants

With the logic you used earlier, you truly don't get it, do you?

GiantsAllDay
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GiantsAllDay 12/29/12 - 08:41 pm
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Bill Cosby himself told his

Bill Cosby himself told his own people not to give their children such names because if puts them at a disadvantage in the professional world. Look it up if you don't believe me. His advice is good.

jahnardluv
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jahnardluv 12/29/12 - 08:45 pm
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???...

Myfather15...was your last statement for me?

Gage Creed
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Gage Creed 12/29/12 - 09:07 pm
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@jahnardluv

These criminals had weapons and were going to rob a citizen. They also had open warrants for a previous ARMED robbery....and you want to excuse these actions as adolescent mischief? REALLY????

Patty-P
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Patty-P 12/29/12 - 10:39 pm
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jahnardluv

So you are saying that an 18 year old still isn't old enough to use common sense? Too young to value another person's life? At 18 I could have NEVER thought of running up on someone and shooting them to take something that belonged to them. People like you are exactly why these young ADULTS don't give a care about what they do. You provide an excuse for EVERYTHING they do wrong, even if it means nearly taking another person's life.

JRC2024
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JRC2024 12/29/12 - 11:13 pm
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jahardluv, I stand by my

jahardluv, I stand by my statement about these adults. And for your info. I have never been arrested, never been in the back of a police car, never been in jail, never thought about robing anyone, never broke into anyone's home, never been kicked out of school and have acted like a responsible adult all my life even before I turned 18. It wasn't hard to do that and if there was any peer pressure I left them standing there.

jahnardluv
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jahnardluv 12/29/12 - 11:45 pm
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???

JRC2024 by your last statement alone I know for a fact that you can't and won't understand the pressures of the poor and restricted. No, I'm not making an excuse for these young guys. Read my 1st post. I said I would've done the same as the victim in this case patty p. But clearly jrc2024, you've never had to deal with being born with less than the rest and no hope or chance given by society. Let's not fool ourselves here, it's a well known fact that African Americans have it the hardest from birth! Not pulling the race card, just stating a fact. And this is especially the case in the south, history speaks for itself. And for those who think anything has change, turn to the national news. Simple and plain, we are too quick to throw our youths under the bus. I care not the crime, 20+ years from now, that person, more than none, will have learned their lesson. And the LAW, since people like going by that, says 3 strikes, not two.

itsanotherday1
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itsanotherday1 12/30/12 - 12:32 am
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jahnard

You imply that the plight of the AA youth is the fault of society. How so? What has society done that promotes violent behavior in the culture? How does society affect young men and women copulating like rabbits, having babies by the half dozen when they can't even afford one? And all this time Johnny Appleseed is long gone, planting his apple seeds elsewhere, and moving on from that one. In the meantime, the female has hooked up with a different baby daddy who knocks her up and moves on like the first.

Why does this behavior repeat itself? As a kid who had an absentee father, I can attest how hard it is for a child, particularly a male child, to get the guidance needed to be a responsible man. Through my own experience, I vowed that I would never, ever abandon my children, no matter what else was going on in my life; but it seems that concept never occurs to a lot of the AA community. They keep having babies in poverty and out of wedlock, and then those raised in that environment do the same, and their children do the same, ad nauseum. The poor population grows and grows, all the time whining that someone else is keeping them down. That is false on its face as there are many, many, people of all creeds born into poverty that see a better life and go for it. They might not hit the high mark because they have so far to go, but you can bet they have children that will, and break that cycle of poverty.

It is not just a "black" thing either, you see the same kind of familial "status quo" over the spectrum of people, it just seems it is disproportionate among AA's, and the culture of violence is certainly mostly confined to the AA community east of the Mississippi.

For you "well, not all" nitpickers; please note I used words like disproportionate, many, mostly, etc. so as not to insult the millions of fine AA citizens who've done what it takes to overcome historical obstacles to get themselves into mainstream America.

itsanotherday1
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itsanotherday1 12/30/12 - 12:35 am
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click-click too many

click-click too many

Patty-P
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Patty-P 12/30/12 - 01:07 am
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itsanotherday1

Turn to any reality TV show and you'll see that the concept of single parenting being celebrated as a way of life. Even Gene Simmons CHOSE not to marry the mother of his children for some time, and he is not 'AA'. Same goes for violence in the streets. It is being celebrated and accepted as a way of life. I have to wonder what's next on the list of accepted behaviors in our modern-day world.

Gage Creed
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Gage Creed 12/30/12 - 01:21 am
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Is Chicago considered in the

Is Chicago considered in the South?

OpenCurtain
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OpenCurtain 12/30/12 - 10:50 am
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catawba7 - Ref Sheriff Roundtree

Every so many years some stands up on a soap box or a podium and promises "I can do a better job than ________." If that person gets elected, we hold him to the promise.

Too many learn it is easier to Promise than to Deliver.
In Sheriff Roundtree's Case the question was innocently asked.
"Is this the 1st Murder on Sheriff Roundtree's watch?"

BTW:
I agree with your implied comment that a FAMILY raises a better child.
An family with both the Mother and the Father present are the best chance for raising a child properly.

Guntoter 2
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Guntoter 2 12/30/12 - 12:54 pm
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BILL COSBY STATEMENT

Unpublished

Heey Giants you are 110% correct..yea Bill said it and I agree.

itsanotherday1
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itsanotherday1 12/30/12 - 01:18 pm
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Gage

Chicago is east of the Mississippi, if it is my post to which you refer.

itsanotherday1
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itsanotherday1 12/30/12 - 01:18 pm
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Patty

Yes, single parenthood is celebrated among the Hollyweirds; but they can afford it. I can't imagine the thought process that allows one to bring a child into a known situation of poverty and turmoil.

Gage Creed
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Gage Creed 12/30/12 - 02:06 pm
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itsanotherday1

My comment was intended to respond to jahnardluv's 12/29/12 - 10:45 pm comment

"Let's not fool ourselves here, it's a well known fact that African Americans have it the hardest from birth! Not pulling the race card, just stating a fact. And this is especially the case in the south, history speaks for itself."

The 500 murders in 2012 for Chicago have a high percentage of minority victims. I do not believe that Chicago is known as a quaint city in the south.

itsanotherday1
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itsanotherday1 12/30/12 - 02:19 pm
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Gotcha!

Gotcha!

Patty-P
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Patty-P 12/30/12 - 05:18 pm
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itsanotherday1

I agree somewhat, but it's not always all about what they can or can't afford. My parents who were MARRIED grew up poor, and our family had humble beginnings. Of course over the years the income and situation went up a lot but I can definitely say I'm not kicking down doors or robbing gas stations because we had less than most when I was a toddler. It's about what good a parent(s) can teach their kids. It's harder for a single mother to do the job of two, but not impossible.

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jahnardluv 12/30/12 - 06:27 pm
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Creed

Gage creed..no, I dnt think Chicago is considered the south, but let's not forget that louisania held that title for a long while, which is the south. And someone pointed out that Chicago is east of the mississippi, so it's not far. Also, most of the killings are black on black. And don't get me wrong, I make no excuses for such behavior, I just think we are too quick to give up on people. And let me note, when a minority( whatever that means) commits a crime, it's inexcusable, and usually it's against their own kind, but as soon as a Caucasian shoots up a place full of people or children, it's excused by the notion that theyre mentally unstable! No, not a racist at all, but it just gets under my skin when that happens. Then people like to say that theses young kids have to be held accountable, well so should these mass murders, they should be in regular population and not a mental institution where they will dope them up and make them mentally unstable for sure then. Sorry if I'm ranting Gage.

Patty-P
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Patty-P 12/30/12 - 06:35 pm
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The only way you will

The only way you will strengthen and teach people the proper ways of the world is to hold them accountable. Or similarly, teach people responsibility. That's the answer to a lot of societies problems, not just crime.

jahnardluv
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jahnardluv 12/30/12 - 07:45 pm
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Yes

Exaclty my point patty p, hold everyone and kind accountable, not just a specific group. Because after while, people will began to do even more heinous things and then play insane in an attempt to get to a mental institution. By the way, this is happening already, but it will only worsen.

Jane18
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Jane18 12/30/12 - 07:52 pm
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YAHVEH

yahnardluv, it is not spelled with a "W", it is spelled with "V", in Hebrew!

itsanotherday1
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itsanotherday1 12/30/12 - 08:36 pm
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jahnard

I have to call you on the white vs minority thing. In this last case, it is clear this kid was mentally unstable as was the Aurora theater killer. The foundation of those arguments is NOT to excuse the killings either; it is to argue against the insanity of the gun control quacks who see the gun as the issue, not the mentally unstable person.

For that matter, in my opinion it is predominately whites that commit these most heinous mass killings, not non-whites. With the exception of the DC sniper, every notable killer in my memory has been a white guy, or at least not AA. Son of Sam, Hillside strangler, Manson, Gary Gilmore, The Freeway Killer, Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer; I could go on if I thought about it long enough.

I need to ask you too... You agreed with Patty about accountability. That is contrary to your opening discussion about these 18 year olds needing to catch a break. The rest of us are saying that the accountability in this case was a bullet for their actions; and if this young man survives, a jail cell should be his next stop. THAT is accountability.

The you imply that accountability is unequal. Can you be more specific? I know there is data that says there is unequal sentencing for the same crimes, depending on race. What I don't know is what else was looked at. If a white kid and a black kid both have exactly the same behavioral and criminal history , then unequal sentencing IS a travesty and I will agree with you. However, I'm not too sure all of that is taken into account when developing sentencing stats.

itsanotherday1
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itsanotherday1 12/30/12 - 08:25 pm
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Patty, I don't know how old

Patty, I don't know how old you are, but when I grew up, a lot of people qualified to be what we call poor today. But we had some pride and didn't believe anyone else owed us anything. We were fed and clothed, a roof kept over our heads, and medical needs tended to. If, after that, if there was any extra money, we could think about a want. Some people did spend money frivolously while living in a hovel and dressing the kids in overalls, but they were the exception. Those that I do recall doing that have scratched a poor behind all of their lives.

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