Home shot after candy runs out

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Shots were fired Thursday night after a Hicks Street resident stopped handing out candy to neighborhood children and a fight broke out.

According to Richmond County sheriff’s Sgt. Dan Carrier, a resident on the 1600 block of Hicks Street was handing out candy shortly after 9 p.m. to about 15 children between the ages of 5 months and 14 years old. After the candy ran out, a fight began between the children and police were called. Around 10:30 p.m. deputies were called back to the area after gunshots were reported.

Carrier said four people were seen running through the street shortly after the fight yelling, “This is our hood.”

Witnesses told deputies shots were fired in the air and then struck the Hicks Street residence where the candy had been passed out.

Police said they are searching for Jessie Shelley, 21, who is a suspect in the shooting.

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countyman
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countyman 07/06/12 - 11:35 am
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How is this more newsworthy

How is this more newsworthy than an actual shooting in the metro?? Unless there's a homicide it seems the Chronicle doesn't want to report on crime outside of RC... The same thing goes for the tribunals in the local school systems too...

I wouldn't have any problem with the reporting if the majority of postivie stories involved Richmond County...

Fiat_Lux
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Fiat_Lux 07/06/12 - 11:48 am
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It is newsworthy

that someone showing kindness to neighborhood children has his house shot up when the candy ran out.

People actually do want to know where the savages and predators live and hang out, even, sadly, if it happens to be in Richmond County.

kywrite
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kywrite 07/06/12 - 11:54 am
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What crime outside of Richmond County?

The kindest thing done for us when we moved here was when our realtor recommended we live in Columbia County, "for the schools." I did not realize how bad RC was at the time, but I am so grateful to her for keeping my family safe! Here I thought the drug dealers were just around the hotel where we'd stayed; had no idea the whole place was like Little Detroit.

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countyman 07/06/12 - 11:57 am
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This is more newsworthy than

This is more newsworthy than somebody actually getting shot?

I'm sure the gunshots had to do with the actual fight between the kids(probably somebody older brother was shooting), and not due to the lady running out of candy...

countyman
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countyman 07/06/12 - 12:05 pm
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Kywrite... I see you haven't

Kywrite... I see you haven't posted since one year ago, and please get for real with the 'what crime outside of RC' statement... Somebody was just shot outside of RC a couple hours ago, but the Chronicle isn't reporting it.. I think you need to see the stats for the homicides, rapes, robberies, etc outside of RC... Then check out the real estate prices in West Augusta, Summerville, Forest Hills, CBD, Waters Edge, Country Club Hillls, Southwest Augusta, etc... The best 'schools' are Davidson and AR Johnson in the entire metro.. Before somebody mentions the word 'magnet' you can bring up Westside...

cheapster505
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cheapster505 07/06/12 - 12:07 pm
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guns

your right to bear arms ' to protect self and property ....Of which none apply here thank you SCOTUS I feeling safer alreadyPS GUNS don't kill people giving out free candy to neighbor"hood" kids that can kill a person

countyman
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countyman 07/06/12 - 12:59 pm
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The crime rate in RC

The crime rate in RC continues to decrease, and the crime rate in some of the surrounding counties has increased.... According to the FBI the crime rate in RC is lower the overwhelmingly majority of it's peers... Starbucks and Rockwood wouldn't be building two plants over $100 million if RC is so bad...

Richmond County is richer than Muscogee(Columbus), Clarke(Athens), and Bibb(Macon)... The median income of Chatham County(Savannah) is slightly higher than Richmond County...

There's plenty of private construction in the CBD, and a Walmart neighborhood Market/other businesses is coming to the Medical District... Then you have the GGHF property, and the Kroc Center bring growth around Harrisburg(Cookout coming to 1801 Walton Way)...

If the safe areas of Richmond County are shrinking then please explain this?? Compare the portion of Washington rd in West Augusta vs Martinez or Evans?? West Augusta(Pleasant Home-Augusta National), Martinez(Pleasant Home-Club Car), Evans(Club Car-past Walmart).. The recent construction in West Augusta- Sheraton, Holiday Inn Express, Mercedez-Benz showroom, renovate Chick Fil A, Kroger Shopping center expansion, Five Guys, expanded Frest Market, Legends Club, Electrolux, etc.. Not to mention the future plans for an Four Points By Sheraton, another upscale hotel next door, 7k sq. ft. center replacing a gas station including Pho Bac restaurant, two 4k sq. ft. retail buildings/new acess rd infront of Kroger, business coming to old Famous Daves/Flying Cowboy, etc...

Evans is the one with the empty acres of land to attract developers, and West Augusta still managed to grow alot... Can anything in Martinez compare? Haven at Reed Creek & Stanton Optical?

The Village at Riverwatch(only Costco in the state outside of metro Atlanta), Wheeler Town Park(Carmax area: small part located in CC btw Carmax-Flowing Wells rd) 25 acre shopping center on Jimmie Dyess near Zaxbys, Walmart on Wrightsboro rd, etc are all located in Richmond County....

Tots
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Tots 07/06/12 - 01:22 pm
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Hicks street,

is downtown "Richmond county"...Richmond county should have never been consolidated with downtown,it's only brought a once proud and lively county too it's knees. Hicks street is near "Harrisburg"..Nuff said !!

Fiat_Lux
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Fiat_Lux 07/06/12 - 01:40 pm
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Yeah, but...

Except for the industrial newcomers, almost everything you cite is happening along the corridors that head westward out of town.

I sincerely hope your optimism is justified. I'm glad new businesses are opening and I hope they are more successful than were Famous Dave's or Cowboys, or even the Church's Fried Chicken also right there.

I don't, however, believe for one minute that merely having businesses operating in that corridor has much bearing on the continuing transformation of some of West Augusta's neighborhoods for the worse. It's a long-standing business area along the main road to town. It still has decent places to go and it still is generally safe to go there.

Some of the surrounding area seems relatively stable, even as it changes, but the apartment complexes have or are going to hell except ones that are gated and very expensive. And, have you noticed how many houses are for sale in some of Augusta's traditionally very desirable neighborhoods? Those realities are not encouraging at all.

Perhaps having decent shopping options is helping neighborhood stability out here, but if there is a seepage from other areas that undermines customer safety and business security on a more noticeable level, things would change out here as fast as they did in South Augusta.

As it is, as long as the medical college, the courthouse and the government offices are downtown, those two corridors will probably be pretty stable. That's the group largely keeping Richmond County, expressly Augusta, afloat.

dichotomy
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dichotomy 07/06/12 - 01:50 pm
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"Richmond County just ain't a

"Richmond County just ain't a great prosperous and safe place anymore except in a few rapidly-shrinking areas of it"

Oh sure it is. We've got a bunch of propersous high dollar land owners out here "south of Spirit Creek". Of course countyman says we don't have the "density" to support any shopping or restaurants. I never thought we had the "density" to support the forced rezoning of 7000 acres of vacant land to Residential either but we got that shoved down our throats along with the corresponding raise in the tax valuations on our land. Turns out that the "impending explosive growth" the Planning and Zoning folks used to justify the rezoning was simply the "explosive growth" in our property taxes. Looks like countyman could send us some "redevelopment" to match the "density" of our tax dollars.

Hey countyman, could I interest you in 16 acres of residentially taxed land and a brick home with a nice close up view of a county owned tall, green. chlorine tank with an orange wind sock on top right out the front living room window? The county was kind enough to build that for me 12 years after I moved here. It comes complete with exorbitantly priced once a week garbage service. There's a few potholes in the road out front and the ditches look like crap what with the 24/7 runoff from the retention pond at the water plant next door but what the heck....it's located in prosperous south Richmond County.

TrulyWorried
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TrulyWorried 07/06/12 - 02:08 pm
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Countyman

With all your knowledge about all the activities taking place within Richmond County - frankly I don't know where you get all this info, now if you could only use your never ending wisdom and help the common residents within Richmond County with some good news about the places where they live - pay house payments or rent and try to stay alive. Any idea?? Commercial property here and there alone isn't going to to it. Point made - neighborhoods!!!!! People!!! Common every day tax paying residents!!

Fiat_Lux
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Fiat_Lux 07/06/12 - 02:43 pm
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Thank you, thank you

Dichotomy, I love to laugh that hard and that long! Many thanks for brightening my day.

Patty-P
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Patty-P 07/06/12 - 02:54 pm
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I wish Countyman would stop

I wish Countyman would stop making comparisons to other cities and focus just on the city of Augusta. The city does not draw people to it, it is not a tourist destination or vacation hotspot (not including the once a year Masters). The downtown area seems lack-luster and crime, whether a percentage better or not, is a primary reason for keeping folks away or running them over to Columbia County or elsewhere.

bdouglas
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bdouglas 07/06/12 - 03:27 pm
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Using the fact that

Using the fact that industrial plants are locating there as a sign that RC is booming and crime is on the decline is fairly pointless. Industry goes where land and human capital are cheap. Crime is not at all a major consideration to them on US soil. Factories have 24 hour security. Thugs don't break into factories to steal things...mainly because they're always open...but even the ones that aren't don't get targeted, no matter the neighborhood.

Fiat_Lux
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Fiat_Lux 07/06/12 - 04:34 pm
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One more time, but less interesting...

Comment from mid-day, directed @Countyman, but now edited for the sensitive:

The AC will get around to reporting that shooting before long. Your way of viewing things doesn't actually reflect reality. Richmond County is not what it was even 10 years ago, largely caused, IMHO, by the steady reduction in
public housing projects in the county. You may not agree, but the people who dealt drugs, maimed and murdered their neighbors and generally pulled down the level of civilization wherever they lived had to go live somewhere else. And they didn't all leave Augusta and move to DC or Detroit or Atlanta or LA, not by a long shot.

Sorry, C-man, but Richmond County just ain't a great prosperous and safe place anymore except in a few rapidly-shrinking areas of it. It is becoming a day-time city like DC, where people who are able to do it drive/ride miles in to work and then drive/ride miles back out to their homes.

nnaugusta
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nnaugusta 07/06/12 - 05:34 pm
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"our hood".....That term

"our hood".....That term explains it! Hood cleansing at its best.

kiwiinamerica
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kiwiinamerica 07/06/12 - 05:43 pm
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Coming soon to a town near you!
Unpublished

Ahhhh yes, the "candy" ran out.

A metaphor here folks, for those with eyes to see.

When America eventually descends into Grecian levels of insolvency in the not too distant future and the gubmint "candy" runs out (i.e. food stamps, subsidized housing etc, etc), this sort of anarchy will become common in urban America as those dependent on the federal teat for their existence, suddenly find that the check is not in the mail.

It will not be pretty.

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grinder48 07/06/12 - 05:48 pm
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Savages!
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What they's is savages ... that's what they's is!

countyman
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countyman 07/06/12 - 06:46 pm
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If you notice I try to stick

If you notice I try to stick with the facts, and not use my own personal opinions.... Hicks street is located in Harrisburg, and not in the Central Business District.... All of the Harrisburg neighborhood isn't bad either...

Fiatlux.... West Augusta is one of the richest places, and of course alot of the construction would take place in this area... The 10k sq. ft. Shoppes at Dyess Park & 25 acre shopping center in Southwest Augusta on Jimmie Dyess(near Zaxbys: Jimmie Dyess/Gordon Hwy intersection) aren't located on an corridor heading westward out of town... The neighborhood Walmart/other businesses coming to 15th street is located in the heart of the urban core...

I can think of several apts(not expensive or gated) Avalon, off West Wheeler Pkwy, Bradford Pointe, Huntington, Marks Church Commons, etc who aren't 'going to hell'...

Patty P.. Augusta might not be Charleston or Savannah, but it's third in terms of tourism throughout the state of Georgia.. Why do you think we don't attract people?? The only PF Changs, Apple, Costco, Pandora, etc in the state of Georgia outside of metro Atlanta is here in Augusta... Who exactly is choosing CC over RC?? What area in CC is growing faster than West Augusta at the moment?? There's plenty of recent-ongoing construction in the CBD too(renovated Fort Discovery, JB white ccondo expansion/private parking on Ellis, Sprint Food & Metro Market, 901 Broad, 901 Broad 9 apts,4,300 sq. ft. of retail, 1120 Jones street 8 apts, 920 Greene street 6 apts, 967 Broad street 4 apts, renovation of Jacoby Phinizy house/2KM Architects/other tenants, renovation of Regency Inn(Holiday Inn Express)....

Bdouglas..... The FBI stats show the crime rate in RC continues to drop.. Please try spinning that??

Do you guys really think they're building all this commercial growth without any new housing?? The amount of home sales in RC is higher in 2012 compared to last year... The 25 acre shopping center/10k sq. ft. Shoppes at Dyess Park is due to the residential growth... Elderberry, Granite Hill, Haynes Station, Mccoys Creek, Cushendal, etc...

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countyman 07/06/12 - 06:57 pm
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Patty P, Fiat Lux, &

Patty P, Fiat Lux, & Bdouglas

Let's stick to the facts!!!!

Please tell me about these places who are so much richer/safer than West Augusta, Summerville, Forest Hills, Southwest Augusta, CBD etc?? I know you can't because they don't exist, but I want to hear your answer regardless...

What areas outside of RC have a lower violent crime rate than the cities of Hephzibah and Blythe??

Do you honestly believe North Augusta & Belvedere in Aiken County or Grovetown & Harlem in Columbia County are safer than West Augusta?? The real estate prices don't even compare between the five diffrent places...

I know why you guys don't want to deal with the facts... They don't back up your opinions, and agree with mine.. Let's focus on the private construction along Washington rd in West Augusta(Augusta National-Pleasant Home) vs Martinez(Pleasant Home-Club Car)?? Anybody including Ray Charles can see private developers prefer West Augusta....

Patty-P
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Patty-P 07/06/12 - 07:12 pm
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lol

Countyman, take away the Masters tournament and then tell me whether Augusta is one of the top 3 in GA for tourist destinations.
Who is choosing CC over RC? People with good common sense and who can make the choice. The majority of military families live in CC and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why. If the horrible schools and crime situation hadn't taken over all of RC, they would have more people besides lower income folks and folks that are just stuck in Augusta and can't choose to move elsewhere. Those little pockets that you are talking about in CBD or wherever don't attract people to Augusta. The only people frequenting those areas are folks that have lived here all their life. It certainly isn't something to attract people from afar.

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Jake 07/06/12 - 07:21 pm
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Moving

countyman, thanks for the unbiased information about Richmond County. My wife and I are thinking of moving and some of the things you point out seem very favorable. Harrisburg sounds very colonial so I am guessing that it is part of the historical district. Are there older properties for sale there or is there a waiting list to purchase these historical homes? From the map I see that it is not far from the river. Is there a marina with kayaking, outdoor restaurants, or shops available?

Patty-P
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Patty-P 07/06/12 - 07:21 pm
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Countyman...

All beef aside, I applaud you in getting businesses to the Augusta area. You are doing your job. The fact still remains, regardless of who's building what and where, people do NOT want to call RC home. Sure, they'll frequent those businesses in RC while living in the outlying areas, but anyone coming into the area that knows the area will NOT choose to live in the delapidated conditions of Richmond County. You will always have those whose hearts and souls are dedicated to their hometown, but there aren't many people coming into the area who would wish to invest in the area on a long term basis.

TrulyWorried
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TrulyWorried 07/06/12 - 07:41 pm
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Who IS this Mystery Man

named Countyman - could he be the Guardian Angel for Richmond County - or better West Augusta? Why does he know all these things?
Is he the one that has all this done? Is he the rich uncle from Saudi Arabia?? Or maybe Dubai??? :>)

Riverman1
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Riverman1 07/06/12 - 09:05 pm
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You know how the Chronicle

You know how the Chronicle runs pics of houses and labels them with the school district. You know like "Lakeside houses"? I wonder if we could get some pics of the Laney school district houses in case anyone wanted to move there? That would be interesting.

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lynn7044 07/06/12 - 10:59 pm
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Work Together

I have move to RC by the way of the military, I have friends that live in Evans and people there just do alot of covering up. It don't matter area it comes to you caring about your town. Yes, these realtor recommended Evans to me because I was told the school was better. My son attends Cross Creek High School and we love it! Yet, I do know a group of kids brought drugs to school in CC, but was sent to alternate school for 1 quarter. You never heard about that. See we should all have one goal making things better for all our kids and not what zip code.
Just because you are in CC these kids come to RC to do crime and the size of the home they come from really don't matter. Thats the real point. See people make choices and not the zip code made the choice. When people understand that point then we will come together as a city, a town, and a community to make it better for us all.
Many businesses owner come to RC and open there business and take the money back to CC and other areas. So if you going to have that attitude then the people of RC should stop bring there money for 6 months to them. See if schools call on them for donation they don't want to give anything they just come and take from the area.
I think RC city should make a list that wwe could go on any see who own business in RC and stop given our money to them. Being theat CC feel that they are so much better. Stop hiring teachers who live in CC and hirer the RC teacher first. See how people would really see that things are all have a commond goal.

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countyman 07/06/12 - 11:58 pm
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PattyP... According to you

PattyP... According to you people don't want to call RC home & the horrible crime-school situation has taken over all of RC...

Can you please explain this?? I'm not even going to mention Davidson or AR Johnson.. Westside has outscored every single high school in CC(ACT, SAT) over the last few years except for Lakeside & Greenbrier... The CRCT from last year had Freedom Park, AR Johnson, Davidson, CT Walker in Richmond County scored 100% in reading vs Greenbrier in CC... Why are the real estate prices in West Augusta, Summerville, Forest Hills, Southwest Augusta, Waters Edge, etc higher than the majority of places in Aiken and Columbia County??

I like how you called the places I mentioned earlier quote 'little pockets'... If West Augusta is considered an ' little pocket'... What is the city of North Augusta then with it's much smaller population??

The Master event is apart of Augusta, and you can't take it away... We still have the ESI Ironman, Arts in the Heart, Westobou, US Cycling championships, Southern Nationals, Augusta Regetta, etc..

Why are they building a 200 acre neighborhood(Haynes Station) on Gordon Hwy between Jimmie Dyess & Grovetown?? Why did an private investor spend millions on the Whites Building building(34 condos; 51 total) and renovate the vacant building on Ellis street(private parking: gated access)? Why is Elderberry one of the best selling neighborhoods in the entire metro??

Who told you the majority of military families live in CC?? The last time I checked both South Augusta and Grovetown(newer residential) are full of military people... The overwhelmingly majority of Fort Gordon is located in Richmond County, and the Freedom Park school is apart of the RCBOE.....

Jake... All you have to do is ride through Harrisburg, and you can see for yourself.... There's still nice areas especially going towards the Summerville neighborhood... The area in/around Harrisburg will only continue to get better.... There's the Kroc Center who will keep expanding, the Cookout coming to 1801 Walton Way(empty lot between Burger King and Shell gas station; Walton Way/Crawford Ave intersection), and the second Walmart neighborhood market in the state...

If all of Harrisburg is so dangerous?? Then why are they building a brand new restaurant, and opened a new Checkers on Walton Way too... While you can find new restaurants renovating vacant buildings around the metro... How many areas in the metro are building new restaurants from stratch?

None of the people who responded to my comments answered the question.. I'm still waiting to hear about the places who are so much safer/richer than West Augusta, CBD, Summerville, Forest Hills, Country Club Hills, etc...

Patty-P
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Patty-P 07/07/12 - 12:29 am
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Countyman...

Grovetown is Columbia County the last time I checked. Why are you mentioning AR Johnson and Davis when these schools are selective in who attends. We are talking about amenities available to anyone and everyone who moves to the area. Freedom Park isn't open to civilians and I'm not speaking of what they are building but what is already there. And South Augusta is NOT full of military families. They do have SOME but the majority wouldn't dare live in Pepperidge, Ghettobrook, or anywhere in the Peach Orchard area. Definitely NOT downtown in the hood. They don't live there because they don't have to. They move their families to more lively places with less crime like Grovetown, Martinez, etc.

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KSL 07/07/12 - 03:48 am
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Good comments, PattyP.

Good comments, PattyP.

detroitgirl
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detroitgirl 07/07/12 - 09:39 am
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kywrite I was born and raised

kywrite I was born and raised in Detroit. Moved here about seven years ago and I still go back twice a year. I can assure you Augusta is not even close to being a "little Detroit" trust me!!

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