Athens crimes stopped by armed residents

Police urge making 911 call instead

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ATHENS, Ga. — Three people in Athens have recently used firearms to interrupt crimes, leading police to say it’s preferable to call 911 if possible.



“These and other recent cases involve very different facts, but one theme resonates as a common denominator: Citizens seem more ready these days to protect themselves or others who may be in mortal danger by using a gun,” Ron Carlson, a professor emeritus at the Uni­versity of Georgia School of Law, told The Athens Banner-Herald.

Athens-Clarke police said people should call 911 in times of danger. Capt. Clarence Holeman said police are always on patrol and can quickly respond to problems so residents are not in harm’s way.

“I believe in the Second Amend­ment, but I wish people wouldn’t take the law into their own hands unless it’s a direct threat where they know their life is in danger or someone else’s is,” Holeman said.

On June 21, Dennis Terry said he was driving when he saw a man beating a woman who caught him breaking into her car.

Terry said he ran toward the man and threatened to shoot him.

“I got within about 15 feet of them and told him to ‘get down or I’ll shoot’ two or three times, and when he saw I meant business he turned her loose and ran,” Terry said.

Two weeks earlier, 75-
year-old businessman Ray­mond Penn confronted a man he found hiding in a storage room attached to his business.

Penn said he told the man to come out with his hands up. Penn said the man had a gun and fired at him, and he fired back.

“I had no option but to return fire and defend myself,” Penn said. “It’s regrettable, but he put himself
in the position and had the opportunity to step out of it.”

Willie Reed said he was awakened in his home June 18 by burglars who climbed through a window.

While investigating the noise, Reed said, he was confronted by a man who grabbed a TV and ran with an accomplice toward a van in the driveway.

Reed said he fired at the van as it backed out the driveway. The driver panicked and crashed into a retaining wall.

Police captured the suspects, who escaped briefly when officers told Reed to lower his weapon.

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seenitB4
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seenitB4 07/02/12 - 08:15 am
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It will come to this

More & more crime will cause innocents to use their weapons....it has gotten so out of hand....i too would use mine if needed.

Casting_Fool
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Casting_Fool 07/02/12 - 08:29 am
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"Capt. Clarence Holeman said

"Capt. Clarence Holeman said police are always on patrol and can quickly respond to problems so residents are not in harm’s way."

That statement may come back to haunt him. The police are not always in a position to be there when you need them to be. The 5 or 10 minutes it takes for them to show at a crime scene may be 5 or 10 minutes too late for the victim(s).

I've never had to use my weapon, but I carry 24/7 because the world is not always a safe place and the police are not always there to keep me and my loved ones out of "harm’s way."

dichotomy
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dichotomy 07/02/12 - 09:55 am
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I am a supporter of "stand

I am a supporter of "stand your ground" and a citizen's right to defend themselves, their family, and yes, even their property. But I am concerned that some view themselves as crimestoppers and are putting themselves in legal jeopardy and possibly giving opponents justification for undue scrutiny of carry permits and stand your ground laws. Keep your gun in your holster unless there is immediate threat to you, your family, or your property. Call 911 first if at all possible. In the case of the woman being beaten, that is a judgement call but I would probably not have pulled my weapon. With my luck it would have been a domestic and the female would have testified that I was the aggressor.

dstewartsr
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dstewartsr 07/02/12 - 03:24 pm
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"Police captured the suspects

...who escaped briefly when officers told Reed to lower his weapon."
And this is the guy telling the rest of us THEY'LL handle it?

"Capt. Clarence Holeman said police are always on patrol and can quickly respond to problems so residents are not in harm’s way."
And precisely where was good ol' boy Clarence when the above incidents (and many more we never hear about because of the certainty of being hassled by oinkers like this clown) were taking place? Krispy Kreme? Didn't seem to be Johnny-on-the-spot then, though he did have some really fine Monday morning quarterbacking.

Captain Clarence: Only minutes away when seconds count.

dstewartsr
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dstewartsr 07/02/12 - 04:07 pm
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Half a story; typical cop

Anytime someone starts out with "I believe in the Second Amend­ment," it's always followed by the word BUT. As in, BUT not for you, little man. I do not know this cop, but I'm betting he is the kind who goes ballistic when he's being taped, and goes completely postal (away from the dashcam) when ordinary serfs second-guess his decisions. In this half-truth --equalling one lie-- Cap'n Clarence disparages the need for citizens' involvement in what SEEM to be minor incidents. How about some more info?

The man who Mr. Terry confronted is 57-year-old Samuel Tyrone Evans, a career criminal who served nine terms in state prisons, beginning in 1972. He most recently got out of jail on June 12 for a drug-related arrest.

In the case of Mr. Penn, the police report states, "He pointed a gun at the owner and the owner opened fire.” And for the rest of this well-edited story: Once released, Mr. Collins faces charges of possession of a firearm by a CONVICTED FELON (emphasis mine), Capt. Holman said. Sure, could have handled that with a call to 911 and Cap'n Crunch or whatever-his-name-is could have solved the homicide later.

The two burglars Mr Reed confronted in his home were driving a stolen van loaded with loot from previous burglaries (musta missed one, Captain Clarence). Mr Reed should have called 911- why? So his death could be on tape?

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