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Cross Creek High School student pulls down girl's blouse

Wednesday, Feb. 8, 2012 11:24 PM
Last updated 11:51 PM
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A Cross Creek High School student pulled down a female student’s blouse, exposing her chest, and touched it, according to a recently released Richmond County tribunal finding.

The male student bragged about the Dec. 15 incident to other students. He was suspended for the rest of the school year, with the option to attend the Tubman Education Center Alternative Program, by a Jan. 17 tribunal panel.

In the following tribunal findings, students were given the option to attend the alternative program in lieu of long-term suspension unless otherwise noted:

• A George P. Butler High School student was charged with breaking and entering and stealing items. The tribunal determined this met the requirements of Rule 32 of the Code of Student Conduct and Discipline, which applies to students who are charged with a serious criminal offense and whose immediate return to school could disrupt the educational process. The student, identified by the initials N.V., was assigned to the alternative program until the final disposition of the criminal matter, at which time a tribunal will be held to determine the student’s placement.

• Two Glenn Hills High School students refused to come out of the restroom Jan. 5. They were assigned to in-school suspension, but they left and went back to the restroom. They were suspended out of school, but came onto campus the next day. They were suspended for the rest of the school year and for the first semester of the 2012-13 school year.

• A Glenn Hills High student was on campus Jan. 5, even though she had been suspended. She was suspended for the rest of the school year.

• An Academy of Richmond County student was seen off campus Jan. 6. He was given permission to walk home, but he came back onto campus and tried to catch the school bus. He was suspended for the rest of the school year and the first semester of 2012-13.

• A Spirit Creek Middle School pupil refused to go to in-school suspension Jan. 6 and became so combative, she had to be restrained by the school safety and security officer. She told the officer that when she came back to school, she would hit and shoot the officer. The pupil was suspended for the rest of the school year.

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Craig Spinks
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Craig Spinks 02/09/12 - 02:57 am
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Have criminal charges been

Have criminal charges been filed in incidents 1, 2, and 6?

Was Ashley notified? Or have the self-serving, "What the people don't know can't hurt us" educrats gotten rid of that reporting requirement like they did the mandate concerning reporting crimes to the local sheriff?

carcraft
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carcraft 02/09/12 - 05:44 am
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Craig, If you or I did what

Craig, If you or I did what #1 did we would be looking at serious jail time. I agree with you. That poor girl needs to be protected and that moron needs to spend some time Hotel 401!

curly123053
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curly123053 02/09/12 - 08:46 am
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What happened at CCHS was

What happened at CCHS was sexual battery. All you need to do is touch someone to be charged with battery. We were told that at the beginning of EMT school in the legal portion of the classes. Touching or attempting to touch the chest of a female is sexual battery. Was the CCHS boy charged with this?

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 02/09/12 - 09:04 am
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The Tubman Education Center

The Tubman Education Center Alternative Program must be the largest school in the CSRA by now! Or perhaps they have very lenient criteria for being released from the Tubman Education Center Alternative Program and going back to general population.

proudgunowner
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proudgunowner 02/09/12 - 09:11 am
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What's with almost a year
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What's with almost a year suspension for a student trying to ride the school bus? He was given permission to walk home, but came back to ride the bus instead? There has to be more to this story. The tribunal process is pretty much a joke. Had an incident when my step-son was in middle school and was attacked, unprovoked, by another student. The attacker was given a suspension from EVER attending that school again, and we were assured by the principal that he would never be allowed back on that school property....Six weeks later he was back and within just a few days he BEAT a female student. This time he was arrested. When asked why he was allowed to return the principal told us that "she was not allowed to discuss it".

proudgunowner
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proudgunowner 02/09/12 - 09:11 am
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What's with almost a year
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What's with almost a year suspension for a student trying to ride the school bus? He was given permission to walk home, but came back to ride the bus instead? There has to be more to this story. The tribunal process is pretty much a joke. Had an incident when my step-son was in middle school and was attacked, unprovoked, by another student. The attacker was given a suspension from EVER attending that school again, and we were assured by the principal that he would never be allowed back on that school property....Six weeks later he was back and within just a few days he BEAT a female student. This time he was arrested. When asked why he was allowed to return the principal told us that "she was not allowed to discuss it".

storiesihaveread
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storiesihaveread 02/09/12 - 09:17 am
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Wow I see these future people

Wow I see these future people on welfare, food stamps and prison

dichotomy
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dichotomy 02/09/12 - 10:36 am
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The adults have abdicated

The adults have abdicated their positions of leadership and responsibility and have put the inmates in charge of the asylum. We are not getting our money's worth from our school administrators and teachers, which we already knew. But this is especially true when it comes to discipline.

There are a least three incidents here where the perp should have gone directly to jail or YDC. The rest should have just been expelled and given the option to repeat the grade again next year on a probationary basis.

I haven't been by there lately, but from what I read in these weekly reports Tubman should have 12 ft. fences topped with concertina wire and armed guards on the corner towers.

Is it just me or does anyone else get the perception that the administrators and teachers have totally lost control of our schools? I think it is time to do away with student tribunals and have adults discipline students with firm, swift, and consistent punishment across the entire school system. And when a student receives punishment there should not be any alternative......just punishment.....and that punishment should be expulsion and jail if the offense was criminal. Suspension should be reserved for very minor infractions like skipping school or cheating on a test. Anything physical or sexual should automatically be expulsion.

Is it any wonder that teens who commit these offenses and receive "punishment" that, in fact, is not punishment but a mere inconvenience think that it's okay to continue to act this way the rest of their lives? The next time you see them it will be in a mug shot attached to an article about murder, rape, or robbery.

It's time to do away with student tribunals and it's time to start hiring professional school administrators, not teachers, to run our school system. Educators cannot even educate (proven fact). Why do we think they are capable of controlling a whole school? Hire professional administrators to run the schools (you know, the guy with the big bat). That is what is needed in our schools. Not more money. Not more benefits. Not more new buildings. Not even more teachers. What is needed is DISCIPLINE and the immediate removal of disruptive students. Parents don't discipline their kids nowadays and it is not our jobs to deal with the little heathens for 12 years. We should not waste our tax dollars dealing with their failure as parents. These troublemakers are lost already. The only question is how much time and money are we going to waste on making a pretense out of "educating" them and how much damage are we going to allow them to do to the other students in the process. Put the trouble makers out....completely out......and let the parents and law enforcement (where they are going to end up anyway) deal with them.

In the late 60s and early 70s our "great society" used several excuses to lower educational and discipline standards, both for students and for teachers, down to the lowest common denominator. Problem is we forgot to ever start raising them back up. It has been a disaster. It is time for a dramatic and radical change in our thinking. We have to quit going down to their standards. It is time to require that they come up to our standards. We are already losing 70% to 80% of our students through either dropping out or receiving a sub-standard education. We would lose fewer and the remaining ones would be stronger and better educated if we put the troublemakers out early and permanently. What we have been doing for the last 30 or 40 years is not working. Why are we dumb enough to keep paying exorbitant amounts of money to continue doing it?

The school boards and the superintendents have given up on educating. Their only concerns now are how much money are they going to take from us and where they are going to spend it. The entire leadership of our school system is useless and impotent. Everyone knows the problem and nobody does, or says, anything about it. We have students that cannot be disciplined, teachers that cannot be held accountable, and administrators and school boards that are impotent to do anything about either. But they will be sending you an ever increasing bill for doing it.

kiwiinamerica
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kiwiinamerica 02/09/12 - 12:42 pm
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Excellent points, dichotomy
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Excellent points, dichotomy but you've omitted one important ingredient of the problem; the parents. ANY attempt to impose real discipline on these little monsters will be met with SERIOUS blowback from the parents. My wife works in the Richmond County education system and she tells me that one thing is a constant; if a child is rebuked or disciplined, one or both parents will be beating down the principal's door the next day and wanting to know why the school is persecuting their little angel.

"Well, Johny's a good boy...........he just got into bad company."

"No ma'am...........your son (or daughter) IS bad company!!

They always have some lame excuse which props up the state of denial in which they're living regarding their lousy job of parenting. Often the family is broken. Mother living with her latest lover......father doing the same, who knows where.

Sadly, things have gone too far and the system is no longer salvageable. Now, it is simply about placating the parents and students while keeping everyone moving through the system. Garbage in, garbage out. Just keep things moving. Principles were long ago sacrificed on the altar of political correctness. Teachers want to pick up a pay-check and go home at the end of the day and not be on the front line of the culture wars or the effort to reverse decades of moral and social decay. The administrators don't want to be buried under an avalanche of kids who can't read, write or do basic math. Just keep the little darlings moving...........moving on to where they'll become somebody else's problem.

aubaug
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aubaug 02/09/12 - 01:20 pm
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dichotomy: Teachers can teach

dichotomy: Teachers can teach and discipline, however, the powers that be (Federal, State, and County, BOES AND governments) prevent them from doing so. Can you imagine being in a classroom with 30+ untamed students per period (180+) students per day) with no REAL effective way of disciplining those students? Combine this with the fact that classes are heterogeneous by nature,except for possible AP or TMD classes. Students filling your classes have different languages, physical handicaps, learning disabilities, emotional problems, or may be average learners. All 180+ must learn...you have about 40 minutes with each class to make it happen: Good Luck! (Remember, you have been given NO effective way to keep these children disciplined!)

Dichotomy: It would be great to just banish all of the troublemakers. Unfortunately, our current educational system is so out control, that a huge interim alternative school system (boot camp?) would need to be formed to educate and reform the offenders to keep them off the streets and out of prison.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 02/09/12 - 01:33 pm
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I thought you had to pull a

I thought you had to pull a blouse up, not down?

urright
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urright 02/09/12 - 03:55 pm
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How come the only time kids

How come the only time kids want to go to school is when they are suspended?

class1
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class1 02/09/12 - 06:48 pm
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It is the teacher's fault

It is the teacher's fault when the students don't learn! LOL The is what they want you to believe!

willie7
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willie7 02/12/12 - 12:03 am
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dichotomy, the same thing you
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dichotomy, the same thing you are saying was said about some of our youth in 1920 ,thirities, etc. Years ago, many of these problems would be handled at the school level. I recalled reading about discipline at Tubman and Richmond Academy when the two schools combined, and Tubman became a junior high. The first principal at Tubman resigned before the year was completed and the second one resigned within two years.Each one stated the reason for resigning was students discipline problems. Common Schools, as our public schools were orginally called ,accepts all students. And when you are dealing with the total population, you going to have an element that create problems. The same thing happened to our armed forces, and was one of the reasons for a volunteer army. This wasn't never made public.By the way, Tubman Alternate Center doesn't need a fence around it as been stated, the staff is doing a great job with the student assigned. Too, some young people don't do well in large groups, but tend to operate very well in smaller environment.
Reading recently how discipline problems grew when we started to build large schools.We must also remember that as late as 1951, only 50 percent of school-aged children were in school--many worked despited the attendance law which came in effect in 1950.

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