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Teen not fit to stand trial in beating of teacher

Judge mandates role-playing exercises to ensure later readiness

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The special needs student who attacked a pregnant Collins Elementary School teacher and caused her to lose her baby earlier this year continues to threaten other children and members of his family, authorities said at a status conference in Richmond County juvenile court Wednesday.



The student, who was 13 at the time of the attack, was charged with aggravated battery in March in connection to the incident. During the hearing, authorities said he continues to act out violently but is undergoing therapy and treatment for anger management.

His parents told the court they were concerned they were running out of treatment options since the hospital where he is being seen, Serenity Mental Health Services, is closing its juvenile mental health facility and referring patients to other physicians. They said their son is difficult to control when he "snaps" and was harming his siblings.

"He needs some help bad," said a man identified as the teen's father. "He's getting to the point where he's hitting his sister and hitting his brother and pulling the dog from up under the doors."

Richmond County Board of Education Police Lt. Richard Roundtree told Juvenile Court Judge Jennifer McKinzie that the teen has been suspended from Tubman Education Center several times for incidents ranging from painting gang graffiti to standing on a lunchroom table and shouting an obscenity about the former Underwood Homes public housing area off Sand Bar Ferry Road.

In the complaint Roundtree submitted to juvenile authorities about the Jan. 20 incident, the teen struck repeatedly the teacher -- who was trying to break up a fight -- about the body and "intentionally" in the stomach.

At the hearing Wednesday, the teen's attorney, Brendan Fleming, said two doctors who evaluated his client said he is currently not competent to stand trial but one of them said he could become competent with the proper treatment.

McKinzie then ordered a "last ditch" effort to have him involved in role-playing exercises, which one of the doctors said could be beneficial. Speaking directly to the teen, McKinzie ordered him to stay out of trouble. The teen appeared to become defensive, and at one point, questioning the judge directly.

"What would you do if someone hit you in the head and put a knot on your head," he said in response to what authorities had said about his troubles at school.

A future status conference date was not immediately set.

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raul
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raul 11/11/10 - 02:54 am
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I doubt he makes it to 18

I doubt he makes it to 18 without getting killed. Sad.

OhWell
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OhWell 11/11/10 - 05:45 am
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And this teen was not

And this teen was not criminally charged when he caused the loss of a life? He is bomb waiting to ignite. This is sad but the public and his family need protection. How do you think the teacher is dealing with this? SAD, SAD, SAD

johnston.cliff
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johnston.cliff 11/11/10 - 07:46 am
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When a society has almost no

When a society has almost no limits on state supported behavior, it's unprepared to react when it encounters true anti-social behavior. In this case, even causing a death wasn't enough to remove the dangerous offender from access to society.
What a mess when "right and wrong" is no longer viable.
If he threatens the wrong person or family, he'll be removed from society and the courts will prosecute the person defending themselves. What a mess.

corgimom
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corgimom 11/11/10 - 07:59 am
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Role-playing exercises, for

Role-playing exercises, for someone who is critically ill.

I am stunned.

sgachief
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sgachief 11/11/10 - 08:02 am
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another tragedy in the wings

another tragedy in the wings because of another "dumb" judge!!!

ironpurps
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ironpurps 11/11/10 - 08:21 am
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This adoles does need

This adoles does need professional help. But just watch. He will eventually be put in a middle or high school and disrupt more classes and create more chaos. And they wonder why RC schools can't make AYP.

gadawg1968
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gadawg1968 11/11/10 - 08:37 am
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This is a product of these

This is a product of these lazy parents and these college educated parents that believe that its better to get into the childs mind rather than the "seat" of the problem. I am 42 years old and I believe that if I had this child for 30 days and was given a free hand...he would be a different child. These folk come up with all of the intials for these problems children have when its nothing more than them needed dicipline. Beat their butts!

jebko
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jebko 11/11/10 - 08:55 am
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One of the benefits of 'main

One of the benefits of 'main streaming'

seenitB4
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seenitB4 11/11/10 - 09:17 am
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Do you want a kid like this

Do you want a kid like this in school with your kid??? That's what PC thinking is doing for us...This is Gracewood State School type in other words MENTAL ILL SCHOOL...Stop thinking all kids can be trained & rehabilitated....geeez....how many more deaths will he cause.

lifelongresident
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lifelongresident 11/11/10 - 09:18 am
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hey iron, my sentiments
Unpublished

hey iron, my sentiments exactly, as i said before it's not about education, meeting ayp, improving graduations rates or test scores it's about MONEY. as long as he attends school he counts towards the minimum requirements regarding attendance in order to keep the federal/state educational funding rolling in. look at his track record...multiple cases of disrupting the educational process and acts of violence...it's based on a cost benefit analysis...there is a certain amount of funding allocated and recieved for each student if it costs less per student to regarding discipline than is recieved by the state then it's worth it to have that student remain enrolled (there is little concern for safety, educating the student), the student will be deemed "special needs" and shunted off to a "special-needs" classroom to be baby sat until he can be sent home to his "sorry" parents. and now a unborn child is dead because of him and the "system" only cares about the perp, when he should be sent away some where until the unborn child that was killed comes back to his/her mom as a heathy child(which would be never!!!!!)

dichotomy
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dichotomy 11/11/10 - 09:28 am
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Sociopaths belong in

Sociopaths belong in institutions. Not mainstreamed in our schools with other students and with teachers who cannot defend themselves when attacked. We have had one teacher killed and at least one other that lost her unborn child because of our PC attitudes about psycopathic children. "Mainstreaming" is a nice progressive word but it results in death, destruction, and disruption of the other 90% of kids that we might actually be able to educate if the teachers weren't spending all of their time dealing with mainstreamed psycopaths.

CoastalDawg
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CoastalDawg 11/11/10 - 10:17 am
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This entire family is at risk

This entire family is at risk - I don't know how they can lie down and sleep at night for fear of never waking, being killed in their sleep. This is a very sad situation BUT those other students and administrators in schools should never be subjected to this kind of behavior; he and others like him do NOT belong in a public school setting, not ever. I know that family loves him and so do others but love does not require us to sacrifice an entire group of people in order to have one individual continually disrupt everyone. He's obviously dangerous; we often read about youngsters like this eventually killing their family, friends, or total strangers and he has already cost one life. If that judge can't bring it upon herself to place him into an institution then she should recuse herself and let another judge hear the case. That teacher who lost her baby due to his beating her certainly should never have to put up with him or anyone else in a classroom setting who has problems such as his. The judge "ordered him to stay out of trouble"?! Whoopee, I'll bet his parents and others have been ordering him to do that all his life but that appears to be beyond his control. Sorry for him and his family but it's time to remove him from society.

1SCDawgfan
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1SCDawgfan 11/11/10 - 10:56 am
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If parents want change, they

If parents want change, they need to see the people they elected. There are federal laws that were designed to protect the rights of special needs children-starting with 94-142 and going to IDEA today. Unfortunately, many of the well intentioned laws are used in the manner described in this article.
How do you discipline a child who sadly is whacked out to this degree when state and federal law says administrators cant suspend a special needs child over 10 days in a school year? Where are we going when the rights of one terribly disturbed child rank over the entire classroom? What kind of services are we providing when BOEs expect SPED teachers to turn in 100 page IEP/eligibility packets PER CHILD? I dont have time to pee, much less put the paper together, deal with State testing garbage(at least once a month) and have a flipping word wall. THIS is what your federal, state and local people feel are more important.

PARENTS- WHEN ARE YOU COMING TO YOUR KID'S SCHOOL TO RAISE HELL? WHEN ARE YOU CALLING YOUR LEGISLATOR?

I believe in the rights of all persons to a free and public education, but not at the expense of other persons when there is an obvious disruption such as this.

I know I'm ranting, but this is my day off and I better get some paperwork done now.....

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 11/11/10 - 11:17 am
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I'm having a hard time making

I'm having a hard time making sense of the article. First, the child has been charged with a crime, so they had a compentency hearing. Two doctors said he was incompetent to stand trial, but one of those two said that participation in role playing exercises might render the child compentent. And the judge bought that! Wow!

Now, the article infers that that child is at home with his parents, where he harms his siblings and pets. I guess that's just one of the burdens of parenthood.

Richard Roundtree stated that the child has been suspended from Tubman Educational Center "several times," but we do not know from the article whether he is currently under suspension or whether he has been allowed to return to Tubman. I wish Adam Folk would comment on this forum whether the student is currently in a Richmond County Public School facility.

Patty-P
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Patty-P 11/11/10 - 11:24 am
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gadawg1968...agree, but

gadawg1968...agree, but parents are no longer allowed to discipline their kids. The state has that responsibility now. I hope they are ready for the mess they have created.

Adam Folk
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Adam Folk 11/11/10 - 11:31 am
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Little Lamb: He has been

Little Lamb:

He has been allowed to return to the Alternative School. In his free time, the judge ordered that he volunteer at a local soup kitchen.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 11/11/10 - 11:37 am
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Thank you for responding,

Thank you for responding, Adam. I hope the other volunteers and the patrons of the soup kitchen don't make the boy angry!

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 11/11/10 - 11:41 am
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He's competent to attend the

He's competent to attend the public school system but incompetent to stand trial in juvenile court. Wow!

hopefulinaugusta
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hopefulinaugusta 11/11/10 - 01:31 pm
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Unless things have changed it

Unless things have changed it only takes two people to have someone involuntarily committed. These parents need to get in contact with Ga Regional and have this teen committed for evaluation in an inhouse setting. Mental illness has a tendency to rear its head around the teen years when hormones are raging and changes are occuring in a persons body. We need to understand that mental illness is real and can be controled if identified and treated properly. Most parents are not equiped to handle it on their own. Get this young man some help!

hopefulinaugusta
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hopefulinaugusta 11/11/10 - 01:49 pm
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Parents, do not be ashamed to

Parents, do not be ashamed to take this option, mental illness is nobodies fault and you are not giving up by having them committed to a inpatient facility. You are exercising a viable option to help your child. Do not listen to the people that are spewing words life sociopath around, they are being mean and are uninformed. Help your family get through this. I hope the judge and the doctors are suggesting this to you. If not they are doing your child an injustice with their mickey mouse treatments. Things will only get worse the older he gets if he indeed has a mental illness, atleast get him evaluated.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 11/11/10 - 03:49 pm
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But if they commit him to an

But if they commit him to an inpatient mental health facility, he will not be able to continue his education at the Richmond County Alternative School!

Hatfield0278
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Hatfield0278 11/11/10 - 05:23 pm
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This story is troubling. If

This story is troubling. If the student has problems that are so great that his parents cannot control him, that he is routinely violent, that he beats his brother and sister and that he beats a teacher so badly that she loses her baby then he does not need to be in any school, alternative or not. He either needs to be committed to a mental institution or he needs to be imprisoned. Step it up Judge McKinzie.

hopefulinaugusta
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hopefulinaugusta 11/11/10 - 05:56 pm
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Putting this young man in

Putting this young man in prison will not help. He will be out in a few years much worse for the wear. Little Lamb, how about offering help instead of sarcasm.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 11/11/10 - 05:58 pm
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Let's work together, Hopeful.

Let's work together, Hopeful. I'll work to keep him out of prison if you'll work to keep him out of the public school system.

hopefulinaugusta
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hopefulinaugusta 11/11/10 - 06:49 pm
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If he is placed somewhere for

If he is placed somewhere for inpatient care he will not be in public school, so that sounds fair to me.

hopefulinaugusta
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hopefulinaugusta 11/11/10 - 06:55 pm
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And just so you know, we are

And just so you know, we are in agreement that he does not need to be in the public school setting, alternative or any other. If parents will research, they will find out that if their child is under an IEP with a public school in GA they are able to get money from the state of GA for a private or specialized school for their child. Go to the GA Dept. of Education website for further information.

Asitisinaug
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Asitisinaug 11/11/10 - 07:29 pm
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At the very least, his

At the very least, his "right" to a free public education should end. Any student who commits a violent act on a school campus or those who are continually disrupting the educational process should be permantly removed as they are infrenging on the rights of others.

As for this liberal idiotic judge, she should be removed as well for failing to properly protect society at large.

bettyboop
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bettyboop 11/11/10 - 07:59 pm
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16 million dollars,,,( of the

16 million dollars,,,( of the tax payers money)to put this animal in a program...lol what a joke!!!!!

bone1
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bone1 11/11/10 - 08:28 pm
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the notion of a liberal

the notion of a liberal society begins to fall apart when reasonable people allow themselves to rationalize protecting an animal such as this creature. as much as we rail against zero tolerance, it provides the simplest means by which society can control the animals.

InChristLove
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InChristLove 11/11/10 - 09:16 pm
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bettboop, I'm sorry but I

bettboop, I'm sorry but I have to disagree with you. This young man is not an animal. He is someone's son and has a real mental disability that needs to be addressed. Putting him in jail or main stream school is not the answer, he needs to be put in an institution where he can get help to learn to deal with his anger and be able to at least function normally. Whether he ever needs to be released back into the main stream society would be determined whether he gets the mental help needed to cope.

Where did you get the figure 16 million to put him in a program and how much would it be worth to see that he gets the help he needs if this was your son?

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