Fort Discovery still for sale

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A year after it was announced that Fort Discovery was up for sale, little has changed for the science center.

It's still open. It opened a new exhibit in June, and is gearing up for tonight's Best of Augusta Bash and planning for the annual Halloween Spooktacular later this month.

It's still in need of a buyer.

A few prospects have expressed interest in the property, but as of right now, the property is still available, said Dennis Trotter, one of the Meybohm Realtors' agents assisting with selling the property.

He wouldn't say who the prospects were.

Fort Discovery, which is operated by the National Science Center, is listed for sale at $5.5 million and has 118,000 square feet, according to Meybohm Commercial Properties Web site.

Fort Discovery is only one element under the National Science Center's umbrella. The organization also has outreach programs such as Fast Track Science, summer camps held throughout the country focused on the science of racing, a computer software program used for teaching pre-algebra and algebra and two mobile discovery centers that provide interactive demonstrations.

The science center will continue to operate until it is sold and won't affect other National Science Center programs, officials have said.

Fort Discovery is the National Science Center's operation base; however, once the property sells and is closed, officials have said that they plan to move its operations to an administrative building on its 88-acre property near Fort Gordon.

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seabeau
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seabeau 10/07/10 - 06:28 am
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Our tax dollars at work.

Our tax dollars at work. Another Federal Gov. boondoggle.

terminusmundi
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terminusmundi 10/07/10 - 08:59 am
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Mayor Copenhaver, it is a

Mayor Copenhaver, it is a damn shame that you are so focused on building a baseball stadium that you are about to lose something far, far better than a baseball stadium. If you took all the money you have at this very moment for the baseball stadium and invested it in Fort Discovery, the rewards would be far richer for our city, our children, and our future.

But you won't do that, will you?

Riverman1
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Riverman1 10/07/10 - 09:12 am
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We were told Fort Discovery's

We were told Fort Discovery's sale to the private sector was imminent a year ago, thus it couldn't be renovated to use as a TEE. Yesterday, we learned the building of the hotel that was part of the TEE package has been put off. It appears things are not as they were presented.

omnomnom
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omnomnom 10/07/10 - 10:03 am
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Ayup. There were rumors that

Ayup. There were rumors that WBJF was going to buy the building... now they're buying the old Barnes N' Noble place instead. It would make a keen temperature controlled indoor self storage place. If city leaders won't address rising crime thats all probably the only thing that could make it there.

Emerydan
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Emerydan 10/07/10 - 10:07 am
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It seems I remember a

It seems I remember a commission candidate last year around this same time suggesting that the Fort Discovery space could be used for the TEE Center, but he was immediately shot down because supposedly WJBF was in the process to purchase the space. It sounds like those folks didn't know what they were talking about or wedre intentionally trying to mislead people.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 10/07/10 - 10:12 am
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I have a house that is still

I have a house that is still for sale also. Nikasha, when can I meet you so you will write a Chronicle article about my house?

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 10/07/10 - 10:15 am
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Terminusmundi wrote: If you

Terminusmundi wrote:

If you took all the money you have at this very moment for the baseball stadium and invested it in Fort Discovery, the rewards would be far richer for our city, our children, and our future.

If the city purchased Fort Discovery, what would you have them do with the space that would produce these rewards, Terminus?

countyman
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countyman 10/07/10 - 11:35 am
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Terminusmundi... Fort

Terminusmundi... Fort Discovery is only moving to Fort Gordon. Near the exit off Gordon Hwy btw Jimmie Dyess and Harlem... The science center will still be in Augusta. They already own property out there.

terminusmundi
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terminusmundi 10/07/10 - 11:44 am
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Fort Discovery is unsuitable

Fort Discovery is unsuitable for the TEE Center because the support columns on the first and second floors cannot be moved, which was a requirement for its candidacy as a TEE Center. Come to Best of Augusta tonight and see for yourself.

"If the city purchased Fort Discovery, what would you have them do with the space that would produce these rewards, Terminus?"

Fully fund it. Buy new exhibits. Get traveling exhibits. Update the content. Hire more staff. Open it six days a week. Make it a world-class science museum that draws people from hundreds of miles around.

"Terminusmundi... Fort Discovery is only moving to Fort Gordon. Near the exit off Gordon Hwy btw Jimmie Dyess and Harlem... The science center will still be in Augusta. They already own property out there."

Wrong. Fort Discovery is a partnership between the U.S. Army and a nonprofit organization. Moving to Fort Gordon would eliminate all of the exhibits, galleries, and demonstrations, and the only thing they would do is outreach programs. There would be no physical museum for people to visit. Just offices and storage.

Emerydan
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Emerydan 10/07/10 - 11:57 am
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countyman.. you do not know

countyman.. you do not know what you are talking about.. There will be no science museum called Fort Discovery at Fort Gordon.. rather it will be The National Science Center.. which is a science outreach program of the US army to schools.. they develop learning software and programs to enhance math and science education in schools..this was the founding mission of the NSC.. and that's what it is going back to. There will be no more Fort Discovery museum.. not at Riverwalk and not at Fort Gordon.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 10/07/10 - 12:13 pm
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So Terminusmundi wants city

So Terminusmundi wants city taxpayers to operate a science/entertainment museum for children. Ooops, there go my taxes up again.

Emerydan
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Emerydan 10/07/10 - 12:16 pm
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LL.. millions in local SPLOST

LL.. millions in local SPLOST and state taxes were pumped into Fort Discovery.. it just did not prove to be the big tourist attraction it was hyped up to be... neither are similar museums in Atlanta or Charlotte.

countyman
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countyman 10/07/10 - 12:18 pm
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Uh? My post said ''The

Uh? My post said ''The science center will still be in Augusta''.

This statement is true... They're moving to Fort Gordon. I don't ever remember saying anything about the exact details at Fort Gordon. Nobody visited Fort Discovery except for kids mostly from local schools... That's why the building is for sale. It started off as a good concept but the building is too small. In order to attract people from 50- 100 miles away constantly.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 10/07/10 - 12:20 pm
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Nothing will attract people

Nothing will attract people from 50-100 miles away constantly.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 10/07/10 - 12:25 pm
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The next major realization to

The next major realization to come out of the TEE will be after it's built. Outside shows and conventions will not be coming as promised. It will take minor events from existing venues is about all that will happen.

Ever see the Tom Hank's movie, The Money Pit? The running gag was that the renovation would take about two weeks. The running gag in our TEE/Money Pit, will be that the conventions are coming.

Emerydan
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Emerydan 10/07/10 - 12:36 pm
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actually countryman, the

actually countryman, the National Science Center has ALWAYS been at Fort Gordon.. only the Science museum was downtown.. that is closing and and it is not moving to Fort Gordon or anywhere else.. here is your exact words from your 12:35pm post: "Terminusmundi... Fort Discovery is only moving to Fort Gordon. Near the exit off Gordon Hwy btw Jimmie Dyess and Harlem."... so you don't know what you are talking about.. Fort Discoery is closing.. it is NOT moving anywhere. The NSC has always been at Fort Gordon, but it will not be a science museum.

Emerydan
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Emerydan 10/07/10 - 12:40 pm
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convention centers are just

convention centers are just not wise investments for cities the size of Augusta and especiallly in this kind of economic climate.. apparantly the banks are not convinced that this TEE Center is going to be drawing the large numbers of conventioneers so that's why they are not so eager to lend money for this hotel.. but you see banks generally base their decisions on reality and not pipe dreams like what the commissioners bought into on The TEE center.. when all is said and done, over $100 million in hotel/motel taxes are being devoured by TEE and the Laney-Walker deal.. imagine what all could have been done with that money that would actually have a real impact on downtown.

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countyman 10/07/10 - 12:43 pm
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Little Lamb... A real

Little Lamb... A real waterpark(not Krystal River), amusement park, largest perfoming arts center in GA, or the baseball stadium attached to the mix-use development on the Golf & Gardens property.

countyman
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countyman 10/07/10 - 12:46 pm
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Emerydan cutting my post in

Emerydan cutting my post in half to push his agenda... What else is new on here.

This is my exact post..

''Fort Discovery is only moving to Fort Gordon. Near the exit off Gordon Hwy btw Jimmie Dyess and Harlem... The science center will still be in Augusta. They already own property out there''.

Emerydan
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Emerydan 10/07/10 - 12:59 pm
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so county what is being taken

so county what is being taken out of context?... you said that 'fort Discovery is only moving to Fort Gordon' when others corrected you that it was not moving to Fort Gordon you backtrack and claim you are being misquoted.. it's there plain as the words on the screen. You said Fort Discovery was moving to Fort Gordon.. you are wrong. It is closing. period. Fort Discovery is closing.. it is not moving. You said it was moving.. you don't know what you are talking about.

Emerydan
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Emerydan 10/07/10 - 01:00 pm
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countyman's 1:43 post is more

countyman's 1:43 post is more evidence that he lives in a world of delusion

countyman
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countyman 10/07/10 - 01:08 pm
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Have you seen the impact in

Have you seen the impact in Laney Walker already? Wycliffe Gordon a nationaly know musician is moving from Harlem to Augusta. He's leaving his job at Julliard and the Manhattan school of Music.

Laney Walker is full of new neighborhoods, townhomes, sidewalks, etc.. Alot of the money hasn't even been spend yet...

Farmboy
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Farmboy 10/07/10 - 01:11 pm
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I thought it was alot better

I thought it was alot better when that place had shops and restaurants in it.

countyman
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countyman 10/07/10 - 01:15 pm
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So White Water or Six flags

So White Water or Six flags in Atlanta don't attract people from 50-100 miles away constantly. I think you're living in a delusional world if you don't think this is true.

I haven't backtracked about anything..

From the article... ''Fort Discovery is the National Science Center's operation base; however, once the property sells and is closed, officials have said that they plan to move its operations to an administrative building on its 88-acre property near Fort Gordon''.

The article clearly says they're moving the Fort Discovery operations to Fort Gordon..

countyman
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countyman 10/07/10 - 01:23 pm
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Hmm? 25% of the guest at Six

Hmm? 25% of the guest at Six Flags live within 100 miles.... Which means alot of the guest who visit Six Flags live outside of 100 miles...

http://seekingalpha.com/article/220723-six-flags-ceo-discusses-q2-2010-r...

Emerydan
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Emerydan 10/07/10 - 01:37 pm
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countryman.. whitewater and

countryman.. whitewater and Six flags are located in metro Atlanta.. an area with over 5 million people.. 10 times the population of metro Augusta. Sure those places draw people from 100 miles or more..If there was any economic sense in building a large scale water park or theme park in Augusta I'm sure someone would do it.. but this is an industry that is actually shrinking, expecially in these tough economic times.. and ion the real world it takes money to do those things so unless you know some local billionaire who wants to build all of this stuff out of the goodness of his own heart without expecting it to be profitable then I wouldn't get my hopes up if I were you. And what's wrong with Augusta improving on what it already has? We cannot even clean or maintain what we have and here you go talking about water parks, amusement parks, baseball stadiums, the largest performing arts center in the state (are you for real?)... what's next a monorail? a full scale replica of the Eiffle Tower? A Golf ball Museum? This city cannot even afford to have more than one police officers to patrol all of downtown Augusta.. get real.

countyman
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countyman 10/07/10 - 02:21 pm
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Why do cities keep building

Why do cities keep building water parks and amusement parks then? In GA Valdosta, Atlanta, & Statesboro, have a water park. Savannah broke ground on a $14 million water park in September. Metro Augusta is much bigger than the next largest city after Atlanta. Metro Augusta is over 200k larger than Savannah.

Think small and you get small results. There is nothing wrong with improving what Augusta already has. A city can build new things and improve what it has at the same time.

What do you consider downtown? I only consider the CDB to be the actual downtown. People in East Augusta don't really tell people I live in downtown. The same with 15th street near Josey, Laney Walker, or Harrisburg. But I see cops driving in those areas all the time.

Concerning the CBD, on broad street I saw a cop on a bike and one at the Capital city bank in the car.

Developers don't come rushing in. Before the city actually makes investments into the city.

countyman
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countyman 10/07/10 - 02:36 pm
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What's wrong if we had light

What's wrong if we had light rail in the urban area of Augusta? Medical District, ASU Walton Way or Wrightsboro rd campus, Broad, Reynolds, JB arena, and maybe North Augusta. The city needs a larger arena too. 10k seats for a metro closing in on 600k and a CSRA over 700k isn't cutting it.

You already tried to steal my idea about having precints. I orginally said on here Olde Towne, East Augusta, Laney Walker, Harrisburg, and Broad street. It would nice to have precints in those places. But you need money to pay for extra police and creating tax revenue is the key. In 2011 Augusta's economy will be even better than this year.

Emerydan
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Emerydan 10/07/10 - 02:38 pm
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Countyman, please give us

Countyman, please give us directions to where this Magical Money Tree grows in Augusta that will pay for all of these "projects"?

Emerydan
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Emerydan 10/07/10 - 02:41 pm
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Public safety is a BASIC

Public safety is a BASIC service of government.. it is what cities are supposed to do.. not all of this other stuff you rattled off. You get precincts back in teh neighborhoods and clean up the streets and get crime under control people will stay in Augusta, and more will move back...that's what increases the tax base.. not continuing to go in debt paying for more boondoggles that burdens the taxpayers.

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