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National group takes back endorsement of Peebles

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The national headquarters of a Georgia chapter of black law enforcement executives that endorsed a sheriff’s candidate Monday is disavowing that endorsement, according to a news release.

Joseph Akers, the interim executive director of the National Organization of Black Law Enforcement Executives (NOBLE) said the people who endorsed sheriff’s Capt. Scott Peebles are not members of the organization and do not have the right to endorse a political candidate.

Akers said that as a 501(c) 3 organization, NOBLE cannot endorse any political candidate and that a cease-and-desist letter has been sent to each of the individuals involved along with a demand to retract the endorsement.
One of them, Waynesboro Police Chief Alfonzo Williams, said all the police officers who were involved had made a mistake that they intended to correct.

Williams said he and the others had joined the Georgia chapter but were not aware that they were required to pay dues to the national organization to become full-fledged members.

“We learned today that you can’t be a member of the Georgia chapter without paying national dues,” Williams said. “We thought we were members in good standing.”

Williams also said he and the others who endorsed Peebles were not aware of the organization’s prohibition against political endorsements. He said they would abide by the order to retract the endorsement and in­stead endorse Peebles as individual police officers.

“We still stand by our individual endorsements,” he said.

Pat Labat, the president of the Georgia chapter of NOBLE and chief of the City of Atlanta Department of Corrections, said the matter was primarily miscommunication. Labat said he had spoken to Akers and to a member of the delegation that had endorsed Peebles and it seemed to be an honest mistake.

“We will take all that into account and move forward from there,” he said.

Akers said those who gave the endorsement had each applied for membership online Tuesday.

“Those applications have been forwarded to our membership committee for review,” he said in the release.

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AutumnLeaves
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AutumnLeaves 07/04/12 - 12:41 am
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Fair except the headline....

Everything in the article makes sense regarding the mistakes and misunderstandings being righted, but the headline doesn't seem accurate. It says "National group takes back endorsement of Peebles". If the group claims not to have endorsed Peebles in the first place, how can it take BACK the endorsement? The headline doesn't match the information in the article. Got a better one?

HighSociety
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HighSociety 07/04/12 - 12:59 am
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I agree could've worded the

I agree could've worded the headline different.
Glad to see them clear that up, and continue their support for Peebles.

boodroe
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boodroe 07/04/12 - 05:31 am
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Yes Headline is missleading

The Headline is missleading if the group didn't have the right to endorse a canidate than it can't withdraw something it can't make. The headline should have read group was mistaken in saying it endorse Scott Peebles as it is not allowed to endorse people

Riverman1
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Riverman1 07/04/12 - 06:07 am
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Check Last Nights Comments on Other Thread

Before this came out last night in the other thread I commented it was illegal for this newly loosely formed chapter with close ties to a Peebles supporter to endorse a political candidate. It's obvious this "endorsement" smells. A friend of Peebles big contributor forms a group and supports a white candidate? Give me a break. Thanks to Steve Crawford.

"Riverman107/03/12 - 09:26 pm

Someone at the Chronicle Should Do Some Research

It would be interesting if issues about this group like the nonprofit status and the connection to the Peebles' campaign honcho were looked into by the Chronicle."

Riverman1
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Riverman1 07/04/12 - 06:42 am
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The Real Story Here

The real story here is it's just another example of an overzealous campaign contributor or something who wants a job or something going too far. The formation of the local group is suspect and the connection to the Peebles honcho is obvious. They applied after the fact Tuesday for membership. Give me a break.

This whole charade should be investigated in depth. If the person orchestrating such stupid attempts is going to be hired, replacing a high ranking RCSO officer, it's obvious CAPTAIN P, THE OBAMA SUPPORTER, is using poor judgment.

By the way, WGAC used the "endorsement" as a lead story yesterday. I wonder how they will handle it today?

seenitB4
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seenitB4 07/04/12 - 07:55 am
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Take a bite

What does crow taste like???

:)

Riverman1
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Riverman1 07/04/12 - 08:07 am
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SeenIt, Heh.

Freddie is looking better and better with such shenanigans going on. They are playing just like Democrats play. Ugly and illegally. That poster telling us to shut up actually encouraged me.

crackertroy
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crackertroy 07/04/12 - 08:36 am
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new headline
Unpublished

The headline is terrible. Terribly misleading. It does not reflect the content of the article. Here's a new one:

"NOBLE endorsement for Peebles not legal"

or

"Peebles endorsement has legality issues"

or

"Black chapter endorses Peebles, but not legally"

or

"Black chapter endorsers not official members"

seenitB4
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seenitB4 07/04/12 - 09:00 am
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Headline

The headline was accurate.....find fault with the DO-EE....not the SAY-EE..:)

Willow Bailey
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Willow Bailey 07/04/12 - 09:03 am
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@Riverman

"It" will likely be handled as if it never happened. That is the most familiar and common form of human behavior regarding righting wrongs.
Happy Fourth!

KSL
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KSL 07/04/12 - 10:03 am
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The headline is very

The headline is very inaccurate. You can't take back or retract something you did not issue.

bdouglas
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bdouglas 07/04/12 - 10:26 am
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Sensational headlines

Sensational headlines generate clicks. Surely we've all realized that's how things operate by now...

Riverman1
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Riverman1 07/04/12 - 10:47 am
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Willow, Ain't That the Truth

I'm telling y'all if you would research who made the press release and those people suddenly joining online the organization after questions about them and the organization came up, it would be gold.

allhans
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allhans 07/04/12 - 11:14 am
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Does anyone believe that

Does anyone believe that Sanders would win in November against the Democrat nominee ?
Thank goodness my friends and neighbors in in RC aren't misled. WE have a CHOICE to make!
November will be the time to vote the ticket and find out..but that time is not NOW, in the primary.

Its like those who talk down Romney, making their choice Obama since he is the only one left standing.

gildea09
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gildea09 07/04/12 - 11:56 am
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Focus

Yes, the endorsement was made inappropriately, but it does not change the sentiment. That is the issue none of you want to talk about. How about addressing the fact that prominent and respected black leaders are publicly endorsing Scott Peebles for sheriff? If you look out there Chief Williams has sent a letter to Capt Peebles explaining what happened and reconfirmed his unconditional support for him. The paperwork snafu doesn't change the FACTS. The endorsement was real. The endorsement was sincere. The endorsement was heartfelt. This is just an example of how some people can't understand how prominent black leaders could possibly support a white candidate!

hockeymann
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hockeymann 07/04/12 - 11:58 am
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The Chronicle needs to admit

The Chronicle needs to admit the headline was a big & misleading mistake.
Alphonso Williams is a good police officer and his personal endorsement should be a good one for Peebles. It should never have been spoiled by a
dumb choice of headline on the article.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 07/04/12 - 12:29 pm
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Allhans, My View

The question of whether someone should run as a Democrat is disconcerting. In the past many conservative candidates were Democrats. There was a transition to the conservative Republican Party as we all know. Richmond County became predominantly black and Democratic so some held on for awhile to the Democratic label.

We all know Ronnie Strength ran as a Democrat, but a lot has happened over the years. You can’t disconnect yourself from the Democratic Party and say you’re only one because you want to win. That seems to be a self-serving motive.

This is a different era where the constant news and internet questions are going to demand you identify your stance on many issues where lines are clearly drawn. The identification and arrest of illegal aliens for instance? Obama doesn’t want that, but most conservatives do.

Peebles tap dances and says he’s a Democrat and Obama supporter. If that is true at face value, most conservatives would never support him. But let’s say he’s misguided and playing the old shell game without realizing times have changed. The utter selfish nature of deceiving the blacks is troublesome. What does he do, go home and laugh about them thinking he is a Democrat? That’s what we being led to believe by his supporters when they are around conservative whites.

The make believe black organization announcing their support of Peebles is another example of the subterfuge with the blacks. This is a campaign based on lies.

All the issues are coming to a head in this election where the Democrats are attempting their final push to take over government like a Communist brigade marching on Congress. We don’t need a Democratic Sheriff.

One thing I’ll say about Roundtree is he’s not laughing behind anyone’s back. Everyone knows he is a Democrat who looks out for the black community. Silas has played it straight-up too and I believe he is an honest Democrat. Ivey, ditto.

If conservative law enforcement people who are politically oriented want to run for office, find a way to do it ethically even if it means moving to another county. This is a new era.

If you believe you can bring conservative practices to the RCSO run as a Republican, straight-up. You may be surprised at the support you will get from both races with honesty. Sanders and Godowns are doing it the right way. Of those two, Sanders is my choice. Interestingly, I could also argue Roundtree, Silas and Ivey are too even if I am totally opposed to the Democratic Party.

gregleopard
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gregleopard 07/04/12 - 12:28 pm
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Endorsement Has Gained Value

To those of us who are lifelong residents of Augusta and longtime students of the political/law enforcement politics of this city, a headline reading Alfonzo Williams supports Peebles is bigger and more personalized than the headline reading NOBLE supports Peebles. (Sorry, but who had heard of NOBLE before this week as compared to how many of us have heard of, or even have had the pleasure of knowing, Williams.)

I could care less what a national organization, with few ties to Augusta, thinks over that of a lifelong supporter of law enforcement like Alfonzo Williams.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 07/04/12 - 12:36 pm
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Get Real

The point is Alfonzo Williams can support whomever he wants, but he can't say he speaks for members of an organization when he doesn't. Matter of fact, he and the others were not even members of the organization until questions arose and they quickly joined online trying to deflect the storm. It's simply another example of the way Peebles big campaign guy runs things. Y'all really going to hire that guy? How do the other officers feel?

gregleopard
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gregleopard 07/04/12 - 12:36 pm
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Idiocy of Republican vs. Democrat in Sheriff's Race

Anyone who thinks that a Sheriff needs to pronounce his allegiance to one party over another to be an effective Sheriff doesn't know anything about law enforcement. The State of Georgia has long considered getting rid of the partisanship of the Sheriff's race but has been shot down by the power of incumbent Sheriffs. What does that tell you?

It means that anyone on this board discussing party allegiance has ulterior motives in support of their own candidate of choice. If you people had the guts to use your real names, we could have a real discussion.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 07/04/12 - 12:54 pm
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"The State of Georgia has

"The State of Georgia has long considered getting rid of the partisanship of the Sheriff's race but has been shot down by the power of incumbent Sheriffs. What does that tell you?"

It tells me you have to run as a Republican or a Democrat.

"If you people had the guts to use your real names, we could have a real discussion."

Guts? What are we going to do, Indian leg rassle? If you can't respond to the points made now why do you think you could otherwise?

seenitB4
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seenitB4 07/04/12 - 01:18 pm
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You People

I don't like the sound of that....you people...yesterday we heard "stuff it".....now today "you people"........
Get real greg.......if we gave you our names then you would want address-phone#--soc sec #......blood type.....personality type---color of eyes--sexual likes & etc...you see how this could really get out of hand...:)

Shifter
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Shifter 07/04/12 - 01:44 pm
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Funny

if any of you think this is going to keep Peebles out of office, well then you are way off track. His is the best canidate and that is what scares you all, and is why you are all on here making these comments about him.

Lets say this if someone robbed a bank and got away and was standing on a street corner that you just so happened to be walking by. This person says I am giving out free money just to help people out, so you take the money and then go on your way only to find out that the person had robbed a bank. Does this make you at fault for taking the money? I don't think so and this is exactly what happened to Peebles, so please people get over it Peebles is going to be your next Sheriff.

seenitB4
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seenitB4 07/04/12 - 01:45 pm
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BTW

When you go up against the "big boys" in the CSRA....I would say that takes a lot of guts.......so weuns (so called you people) must have some eeerrr.....whatcha call it...

Gosh ...it is hard to swim up stream......but we can do it.

seenitB4
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seenitB4 07/04/12 - 01:49 pm
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What is funny

How many are coming out of the woodwork for this article.......I have said this B4...I'll say it again...let the best man win!

seeya later ..... politics can be fun..:)

Iwannakno
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Iwannakno 07/04/12 - 01:56 pm
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Ok...so we are clear
Unpublished

I don't care what your names are...I certainly don't want to know your sexual likes lol. I am opposed to revealing names. If you want to that is your perogative. I think a lot of comments are honest because of the anonymity. I would rather you be honest and not know who you are than know who you are and be lied to.

AutumnLeaves
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AutumnLeaves 07/04/12 - 02:46 pm
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Today's headline no better.

Today's headline is no better: "Retraction is demanded" is still a misleading headline. "Officers still endorse Peebles" or even "Officers still endorse Peebles after retraction" would more accurately reflect what happened. I suppose it isn't easy to be clear in a brief headline, but there seems to be an unjust slant to the first two headlines I've seen. Anyone reading this headline would think that Peebles did something wrong if they didn't read further. And a lot of people don't read further. Peebles STILL has the support of these officers, who in good faith, thought they were members of the NOBLE organization until it was brought to their attention they needed to pay dues first.

HighSociety
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HighSociety 07/04/12 - 04:14 pm
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Seenit, Thanks, but no thanks

Seenit, Thanks, but no thanks on the crow. The support is still there, and will only continue to increase. :)

rational thought trumps emotion
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rational thought trumps emotion 07/04/12 - 05:08 pm
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From Austin Rhodes FB Page

Austin has the following posted on his FB page which certainly clears up a lot combined with the fact that even the GA President confirmed they are a chapter, are members and have been for almost 2 years but made a mistake in making their endorsement official from their chapter of Noble. Also, on his FB page is a copy of their Noble certifications & swearing in.

Captain Scott Peebles,

Please accept my apologies for any confusion surrounding the endorsement we issued on July 2, 2012.

Enclosed is my certification from NOBLE as the leader for area 7 of Georgia which is within Region 3. I inadvertently stated Region 7 because that is our assigned district for the Police Chief’s from the Georgia Police Chief’s Association.

I was appointed and sworn in by the Georgia Chapter of NOBLE for area 7 on May 16th, 2011 by then Georgia President Robert J. Ford. I still hold this position, attend Georgia meetings and have been active within Georgia since assuming this responsibility. Unfortunately, there was a misunderstanding at the local level and paperwork for my and other member’s national membership was not forwarded. This was brought to our attention by the Georgia chapter today after other candidate’s attorneys filed complaints with the National Organization and we immediately completed our national membership paperwork.

Anyone may contact past Georgia President, Robert J. Ford to clear up any misconceptions or the Current Georgia President Patrick Labat both of whom will verify our membership and area 7 within Georgia.

We were advised that even local area chapters are not to endorse candidates for office using the NOBLE name, logo, etc. and therefore this endorsement should have come from us individually as area law enforcement executives. Therefore, we collectively and unanimously unequivocally support and endorse democratic candidate Scott Peebles for Sheriff. As area law enforcement executives we continually rely on the support and guidance of an agency such as the Richmond County Sheriff’s Office and the leadership & assistance that Captain Peebles has provided over the years along with everything else we listed in our original endorsement stands.

We support you fully in your candidacy and from the many calls we have received today in appreciation of our support, be prepared for more individual endorsements from the law enforcement community within the immediate future. Each of the other officers in attendance will also be glad to provide official letters of endorsement if you desire.

Enclosed is a copy of my oath of office for Area 7 of Georgia NOBLE sworn on May 16, 2011.

Sergeant David Hannah

Chief Alfonzo Williams

HighSociety
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HighSociety 07/04/12 - 04:43 pm
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rtte, thanks for the letter.

rtte, thanks for the letter.

Riverman, though I rarely agree with must of your comments, I do respect your local knowledge. Giving a honest opinion, which candidate will see a larger impact on endorsements?
Silas- from Webster
Peebles- from A. Williams
Try to separate your dislike of Peebles for a second and give your honest opinion please.

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