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SC cops shoot car trying to run them down

Monday, Dec. 9, 2013 9:18 AM
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GREENVILLE, S.C. — Two Greenville police officers have been placed on administrative duty after a shooting involving a vehicle that began accelerating toward the officers.

Police spokesman Johnathan Bragg says the officers were at a hotel investigating a narcotics complaint Saturday night when a vehicle nearly hit two pedestrians and headed toward the officers.

Bragg says one of the officers shot at the vehicle.

The vehicle left but a suspect was arrested around 4 a.m. Sunday. Bragg said the suspect was suffering from gunshot wounds that were not life threatening. Carlton Staggs has been charged with attempted murder. It was not clear if he has a lawyer.

The State Law Enforcement Division is investigating the shooting. Bragg says there is no indication the officers did anything wrong.

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nocnoc
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nocnoc 12/09/13 - 12:09 pm
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Here is something I have Mixed feelings about

1st... Police and the public need to be protected absolutely YES.

If a vehicle was driving directly at me (Aiming at me) and I was decked out in a LEO uniform, I'd empty a clip in the windshield,reload and do it again.

But, shooting at a unknown vehicle, leaving a investigation area, that it may or not be involved in something, and had not injured anyone, nor aimed to run down a LEO.

"...nearly hit two pedestrians and headed toward the officers."

I am not sure I could sign off on the use of deadly force, or the accept the danger it placed others in, with the ammo that was put down range, in Motel Parking lot.

OurFather your comment on this is sought.
Is this acceptable for Deadly force?

Sweet son
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Sweet son 12/09/13 - 01:29 pm
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If the officer had time to draw and shoot he probably should

have used this time to get out of the way unless he knew the driver was a fleeing felon who had committed a violent felony against another person.

itsanotherday1
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itsanotherday1 12/09/13 - 02:13 pm
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eggs-akly guys. This was the

eggs-akly guys. This was the point I was trying to make the other day on another thread.

corgimom
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corgimom 12/09/13 - 04:24 pm
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YES, it's justified, a car is

YES, it's justified, a car is a lethal weapon the same as a gun! It isn't any different than if someone had run towards them with a gun or a knife. A police officer has the right to protect their life; and they don't have to know that the person is a fleeing felon or someone who has committed a violent act. Sheesh!

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corgimom 12/09/13 - 04:27 pm
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And what this article fails

And what this article fails to mention is that the officers approached the car, and then the car sped towards them; it wasn't as if they were just standing around in a parking lot and some innocent driver just happened to accidentally come towards them. One little fact makes a big difference, doesn't it?

corgimom
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corgimom 12/09/13 - 04:31 pm
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And it gets even more

And it gets even more interesting when you know that Carlton Staggs has been previously arrested for trafficking in marijuana. Sheds a little different light on the situation, doesn't it?

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myfather15 12/09/13 - 07:04 pm
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Hard to say if this is acceptable; for several reasons.

There just isn't enough information in this article and I don't know the department policy of the Greenville Police Department or Sheriff's Office.

Most law enforcement agencies have adopted policies that an officer may not shoot at or from a moving vehicle; because it's simply to dangerous for everyone, including the uninvolved public. Most agencies have developed policy that states officers must make every attempt to get out of the way of the vehicle, BEFORE firing a weapon at the vehicle. But this is all up to each individual agencies policy.

If the vehicle was being driven towards them, in an attempt to run over them or the public, Federal case law will cover them!! They will face no criminal or civil liability. But that does NOT mean they can't face punishment for violating department policy.

As for my personal judgment on whether this is justified; there just simply isn't enough to go on with this article. I learned long ago that it's a very difficult thing to say "I would do this" or "I would do that" unless you were there. I've been involved in cases which were highly critiqued; when I knew what happened was unavoidable and justified.

KSL
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KSL 12/10/13 - 09:19 am
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Willie

Relative of yours driving the car?

justthefacts
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justthefacts 12/10/13 - 09:28 am
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itsanotherday1
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itsanotherday1 12/10/13 - 11:27 am
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Corgi, so you think YOU could

Corgi, so you think YOU could shoot at a car coming at you when you had an opportunity to step out of the way? After all, just protecting yourself, right?

willie Lee
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willie Lee 12/10/13 - 08:07 pm
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willie Lee
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willie Lee 12/10/13 - 11:39 pm
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More of the Same
Unpublished

September 14, 2012

Police in Texas shot an unarmed man 41 times, then turned around and confiscated another man’s camera after he started taking photos and shooting video of the bloody aftermath.

Dallas-area cops then deleted the man’s footage before returning the camera four days later.

Now police from two agencies are vowing to do a “complete investigation,” which, of course, means we will hear nothing more about the August 31 incident for at least several months.

But so far, the partial investigation has determined that Garland police officer Patrick Tuter lied in his initial report when he claimed that suspect Michael Vincent Allen backed his truck into the patrol car, causing the cop to fear for his life and leaving him no choice but to fire 41 times, meaning he reloaded at least once.

willie Lee
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willie Lee 12/10/13 - 11:40 pm
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and More!
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SAN ANTONIO — A campus police offer in San Antonio has been placed on paid leave following the shooting of an unarmed student who directed a sarcastic remark toward the officer.

executes student
“He emptied the gun on him… Boom, boom, boom. Five or six shots”

The incident took place Friday morning during a traffic stop close to the University of the Incarnate Word. KSAT News reports that 23-year-old honor student Robert Cameron Redus was shot to death by Cpl. Christopher Carter at around around 2 a.m.

“I didn’t hear him say anything like, ‘Get down on your hands and knees,’ you know? I didn’t hear him say anything. He just started shooting,” one witness said. “He emptied the gun on him… Boom, boom, boom.Six shots — five or six.”

After pulling Redus over for speeding, according to the police report, witnesses said that the officer emptied his gun into the student, without warning and despite the fact the student was unarmed

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