SC food stamp cuts coming

Friday, Nov. 1, 2013 8:07 AM
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COLUMBIA — South Carolina food stamp recipients are about to see a cut to their benefits.

They are among more than 47 million Americans who will see their benefits go down starting Friday. The cuts come as Congress begins negotiations on further cuts to the program.

Benefits fluctuate based on factors including food prices, inflation and income. The rolls have grown as the economy struggled in recent years. The 2009 economic stimulus provided higher benefits.

As a result, the program has more than doubled in cost since 2008, now costing almost $80 billion a year.

Negotiations on a wide-ranging farm bill, including cuts to the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, or SNAP, began Wednesday. But the House and the Senate are far apart on the amounts of the cuts.

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seenitB4
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seenitB4 11/01/13 - 09:11 am
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Grow your food

Bring gardens back.....it isn't that hard to do...if you are hungry, you can find a way.

DawgnSC69
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DawgnSC69 11/01/13 - 09:30 am
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Cry me a river...

It's about time to cut 90% of the moochers who can work but choose not to work for a living.

I can hear it now; "Oh what my babies goin to eat? My babys' daddys wont pay me anything and now my food stamps be goin away"

GET A JOB AND STOP HAVING BABIES YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO SUPPORT!!!!

fishman960
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fishman960 11/01/13 - 09:42 am
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Dawg

That's racist!
But pretty much accurate too!
LMAO!

DanK
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DanK 11/01/13 - 10:03 am
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Truth buried under ideology

The truth is, 900,000 veterans, mostly disabled and unable to work, will have their food stamp allowance reduced. So much for the flag waving crowd. And more than 50% of the people employed in the fast food industry and stores like Walmart are paid so little that they rely on food stamps to eat. These are the working poor. These are the working poor who are trying to do the right thing. People who have lost their jobs due to layoffs get food stamps. The elderly who have to decide whether to pay for medicine or buy a can of soup get food stamps. And now, those flag waving cretins in the House want to cut the program even more. $200 per month max that can only be spent on food. Nobody is livin' large on that. Next time some tea partier tells you he is a Christian, the only response is to sneer at his hypocrisy.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 11/01/13 - 10:11 am
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There is nothing Christian
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There is nothing Christian about forcing people who work to provide for those who won't.

burninater
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burninater 11/01/13 - 10:23 am
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Neither is there anything

Neither is there anything Christian about turning away the hungry when we have the means to help them.

Noone in America is taxed into poverty. Not a single person.

raul
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raul 11/01/13 - 10:25 am
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Maybe they could cut out

Maybe they could cut out desserts and sodas?

fishman960
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fishman960 11/01/13 - 10:25 am
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Gotta say it

Okay, yes this will hurt the truly eligible recipients. BUT those are not that many.
The vast majority of those on SNAP abuse the system. Veterans included. I said it. Veterans have mental issues doe to their service to our country. They escape those by taking drugs and drinking alcohol. They use their Snap benefit to purchase these things by conversion.
IT HAPPENS ALL THE TIME!!!!!
Now in dealing with the non Veteran issue, all you have to do is go to a grocery store. Watch what the recipients purchase, then look at what they are wearing. What their children are wearing. Follow them out to the parking lot and look at what they are driving. I dare you.
the Government is overrun by welfare fraud at all levels. I do not care where they start to cut back on programs, they have to start somewhere.
Now I know I will get a lot of negative comments on this post, but I say to all of them... look at the real world and not some notion that all SNAP recipients will starve over this.
They will just have to cut back on their "other" spending like every other taxpayer has had to do.

burninater
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burninater 11/01/13 - 10:52 am
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330 million Americans, 50%

330 million Americans, 50% pay income tax, $80 billion/165 million = approximately $500, median US income about $50,000.

This is the essence of this anti-SNAP crusade. 1% of income going to feed the poor. ONE PERCENT. And if you make anything over the median, it is LESS THAN ONE PERCENT.

Drawing a battle-line over this is a great illuminator of character and motivation.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 11/01/13 - 11:02 am
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So is defending people who
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So is defending people who will not work.

fishman960
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fishman960 11/01/13 - 11:22 am
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An example

I know a couple that were living in a modest home. One lost their income but was able to replace it with a less salary.
They had a "spending" habit, mostly on things they didn't need. One was a shopaholic, having to have all the new gadgets and what nots. The other had a drinking, script abuse, and smoke habit.
They decided they had to give some things up.
So, they left their modest house (after pleading with the landlord to lower their rent unsuccessfully) and moved back in with the parents.
Now they are living on the parents teet, not paying anything near what they were paying for rent with no utilities the whole time now increasing their spending habits.
All under the excuse that they couldn't afford their modest home anymore.
This epitomises the attitude that is in force in the "entitlement" crowd and it utterly disgusts me with their thought process.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 11/01/13 - 11:38 am
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I think it is horribly
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I think it is horribly immoral to continue to keep people in financial servitude. The government is even paying recruiters to get people on SNAP that apparently didn't even know they needed it.....all to keep them dependent. It’s easy to claim you are helping the poor…..by keeping them poor.

fishman960
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fishman960 11/01/13 - 11:39 am
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And

Let me say this.
Those that are truly concerned about those needy poor, stop giving your tax money to them.
Get out there and find them. Volunteer at a shelter. Give to the Golden Harvest Food Bank. Take them to a good dinner. Allow them in your home for a buffet. Do something on a personal level to truly help the needy.
But get off your high horse because your tax dollars are helping the underprivileged and having this do gooder feeling because you are part of the problem.
The Government is not the answer to helping the needy.
You are.
Now get out there and make a difference, but stop griping to those that are tired of seeing their taxes squandered on fraud.

Common.sense
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Common.sense 11/01/13 - 11:50 am
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Please let me play a violin

Please let me play a violin for DanK's working poor. Being one of them myself I still make important financial decisions that allows me to afford my own food and pay my own bills without any kind of assistance. I guess being responsible for yourself is becoming a thing of the past.

I would appreciate some donations to the tip hat for playing the violin. Thanks!

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 11/01/13 - 11:54 am
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Don't worry,
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Don't worry, Common.sense....there are those posting here that will not turn you away for help....even if you drive up in a Lexus.

burninater
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burninater 11/01/13 - 12:01 pm
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Don't worry,

Don't worry, Common.sense....there are those posting here that will not turn you away for help....even if you drive up in a Lexus.
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Ah, so there are actually two separate issues here.

There are the legitimately poor, and there are the fraudsters that receive assistance when they don't need it. The former grossly outnumber the latter.

What motivates an individual to decide that we should eliminate something because a small minority exploits it? This is the same sloppy thinking that someone exhibits when they decide the free market is bad because of companies like Enron.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 11/01/13 - 12:06 pm
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"What motivates an individual
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"What motivates an individual to decide that we should eliminate something because a small minority exploits it?"

You mean like gun control legislation? That is a fine question.

In my opinion, SNAP should be done more like WIC. It should specify what you can and can not buy. That would eliminate a great deal of the fraud, and still get food to those who need it. Also, you should NEVER be able to get cash back from the EBT card like you can now.

fishman960
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fishman960 11/01/13 - 12:07 pm
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Statistics

Where is there a number that can be cited as far as who is truly needy versus who is defrauding the public???? ANYONE???
To attest as to who is legit and who is not is pure speculation.
We all choose to see things the way we want. We have that choice.
Whether it is right or wrong.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 11/01/13 - 12:07 pm
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Besides...SNAP isn't being
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Besides...SNAP isn't being eliminated...it is being drawn back to pre-recession levels. After all....the President says the recession is over.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 11/01/13 - 12:09 pm
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You are correct
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You are correct fishman....the statement " The former grossly outnumber the latter." is speculation.

burninater
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burninater 11/01/13 - 12:21 pm
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Where is there a number that

Where is there a number that can be cited as far as who is truly needy versus who is defrauding the public???? ANYONE???
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http://www.offthechartsblog.org/setting-the-record-straight-on-snap-part...

It's really not hard to educate ourselves folks.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 11/01/13 - 12:26 pm
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And the numbers for the truly
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And the numbers for the truly needy? That chart is for overpayment/underpayment, not fraud eligibility fraud.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 11/01/13 - 12:30 pm
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Since 2007, food stamp
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Since 2007, food stamp enrollment has nearly doubled.....but it's not because of people were getting it that didn't need it. There's no way that's the reason.

fishman960
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fishman960 11/01/13 - 12:33 pm
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Report

That article and that chart do not answer my question. Anyone can dig deep enough for some report to back up their claim.
Again, where is the report for persons receiving benefits that have been proven to be defrauding the system and thereby convicted and ordered to repay all the benefits they received?
It doesn't exist. Why? Because the Government doesn't want to know.
All they want is you dependant on their handout so you won't have to work for it yourself thereby "buying" your vote.
Plain and simple.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 11/01/13 - 12:36 pm
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The claim that fraud is
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The claim that fraud is insignificant is similar to the claim that votor fraud is nearly non existant. If they are getting away with it, then you won't have those numbers BECAUSE they are getting away with it. One can simply watch the people using the EBT card, the things they buy, the car they drive, etc to see that SNAP fraud is very rampant. I'm not saying they aren't meeting the requirements that the Government asks them to meet....I'm saying that they don't need it.

burninater
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burninater 11/01/13 - 12:45 pm
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"The claim that fraud is

"The claim that fraud is insignificant is similar to the claim that votor fraud is nearly non existant. If they are getting away with it, then you won't have those numbers BECAUSE they are getting away with it."
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So you're saying you don't have the numbers to back your claim of rampant fraud, but that the data I provide that measures overpayment of benefits to households not actually eligible doesn't count.

I think I'm done here, good day.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 11/01/13 - 12:53 pm
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No...we are saying that the
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No...we are saying that the numbers don't exist, and the charts you provided do not answer the question that was asked.

bigj706
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bigj706 11/01/13 - 01:13 pm
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I learned on here even if the

I learned on here even if the numbers existed people on here would still say the same thing their complaining about now so why show some numbers that you would still be upset because your tired of paying whatever. Don't forget this is complaineville !

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 11/01/13 - 01:20 pm
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Yeah...it's just silly to
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Yeah...it's just silly to complain about having to feed people who wear nicer clothes and drive nicer cars, and will not work. Just moaning and complaining for no reason.

Humble Angela
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Humble Angela 11/01/13 - 01:26 pm
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hmmmmm....complaining about
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hmmmmm....complaining about people complaining. I'm overwhelmed by the irony.

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