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Greenbrier suspends 18 soccer players

Underage drinking might curtail Wolfpack season

Thursday, March 21, 2013 3:27 PM
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Eighteen Greenbrier High School boys soccer players were suspended this week and kicked off the team for drinking alcohol while on a school-sponsored team trip.

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Columbia County school Superintendent Charles Nagle said the student-athletes are currently on 10-day suspensions.   CREDIT
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Columbia County school Superintendent Charles Nagle said the student-athletes are currently on 10-day suspensions.


The suspensions came with the recommendation for long-term suspension.

“Eighteen students out of the 25 on the boys team have either admitted to or have been implicated by others in their testimony and evidence and statements by others that did participate in illegal drinking while on a school-sponsored trip,” Columbia County school Superintendent Charles Nagle said at a news
conference Thursday.

More than underage drinking was involved, however.

“I was told that two students admitted to – and I don’t know how that came about – but they admitted to smoking spice, which is a synthetic marijuana,” Nagle said.

The students are on a 10-day suspension pending a school disciplinary hearing, which Nagle said is expected to be held next week.

“We may allow any of those who did admit to go ahead and waive their rights to a hearing, and we will place them immediately in the alternative school so they don’t miss any school time,” Nagle said.

Students who waive their right to a hearing could start at the alternative school as early as Monday, Nagle said.

The incident took place when the soccer teams traveled to Jekyll Island, Ga., for a tournament March 14-16. The drinking reportedly took place mainly in hotel rooms during the tournament.

The incident came to the attention of school administrators through posts on a Twitter account. The school safety officer looked into Twitter accounts and social media.

“Students started being questioned … they admitted their participation in what had taken place in hotel rooms,” Nagle said.

Because of the illegal activity, additional reporting was needed.

“We did call the sheriff’s department, and the sheriff’s department made a type of incident report to acknowledge that this was reported,” said Nagle, who added that it was out of the county’s jurisdiction and that because it occurred during the weekend, there was no physical evidence.

Nagle, who said he was devastated and disappointed by the “bad decisions made by a group of young men,” said others should pay heed.

“We hope this does send a message to everyone else that you’re not above following the code of conduct and our expectations if you want to represent this school system,” the superintendent said.

The suspensions cast a pall over Class AAAAA’s No. 2-ranked Wolfpack (7-0-2), which is scheduled to play host to No. 1-ranked McIntosh (12-0) at 4 p.m. Saturday.

Officially, the Wolfpack still can clinch first place in Region 2A-AAAAA with a win in one of its next two region games against Lakeside or Grovetown.

Telephone calls to school administrators were not returned Thursday.

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David Parker
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David Parker 03/21/13 - 04:27 pm
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Wrong or right, if it was my

Wrong or right, if it was my kid, I'd tell them not to say a word to anybody about anything. As many liberties and freedoms he/she will come to realize and then lose throughout their life, this one they can have a pass.

That said, my lawn would be looking immaculate for about a year.

Mr. Thackeray
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Mr. Thackeray 03/21/13 - 03:49 pm
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How stupid are these kids?

How stupid are these kids? But then where was the supervision? We used to place tape on the outside of a student's door so they could not leave without us knowing. Were there bed checks?

Riverman1
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Riverman1 03/21/13 - 04:03 pm
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How did they do in the Jekyll

How did they do in the Jekyll Island tournament?

jasper1
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jasper1 03/21/13 - 04:10 pm
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Social Media

FB, Twitter, Instagram, My Space, all this social media crap is what is wrong with kids today, put this junk down and open a book!!

Riverman1
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Riverman1 03/21/13 - 04:17 pm
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Drinking by teens

Drinking by teens around school activities has been going on since our grandfathers' time. Nothing new here. Every year we hear about a Columbia County team and drinking. They got caught, most don't. They will do very well later in life. I KNOW.

CobaltGeorge
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CobaltGeorge 03/21/13 - 04:20 pm
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I Guess

this has never happened in any other school. Yep, these are really some very, very bad boys and some or all will never make something of their lifes in this world.

karradur
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karradur 03/21/13 - 04:21 pm
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What's the real lesson here?

Don't be intimidated by law enforcement or school officials. You have a right to stay silent when questioned.

Regardless of whether or not what they did was wrong (it was illegal, but not all illegal things are wrong), they shouldn't have said anything.

CobaltGeorge
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CobaltGeorge 03/21/13 - 04:49 pm
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RM

I should have also said.....I KNOW TOO...in my comment.

walrus4ever
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walrus4ever 03/21/13 - 05:14 pm
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Who bought/brought the

Who bought/brought the alcohol?

Fiat_Lux
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Fiat_Lux 03/21/13 - 05:21 pm
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This is absurd,

making such a huuuuuuuge deal out of something high school boys have done since, well, since there have been high schools and boys. What a nauseating, nanny state, PC kind of over-reaction.

Alternative school? Give. me. a break. Suspend them for a few days and make them pick up trash around the school every day for a month. It's just not that big a deal, certainly not compared to rape or carrying a weapon into the school. It's not even as reprehensible as cheating, when you get right down to it.

Somehow, the poohbahs just can't lay off and pass up a chance to ruin some kids' lives for being exactly what they are at their age, which often means looking for thrills and being dumb as stumps. Nobody got hurt and, thankfully, they weren't out drinking and driving around.

The brunt of the responsibility for this mess rests with the adults who were supposed to know where these boys were and what they were doing at all times. Where the heck were the coaches and chaperones?

LillyfromtheMills
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LillyfromtheMills 03/21/13 - 05:31 pm
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We had great times

But times are different.

Buckys Friend
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Buckys Friend 03/21/13 - 05:33 pm
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Maybe the West

Maybe the West Augusta\Evans\Columbia County parents need to get their noses out of the air, stop trying to be friends with their spoiled children and be parents!

happychimer
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happychimer 03/21/13 - 05:35 pm
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Those kids have nobody to

Those kids have nobody to blame but themselves. They are ruining their own lives. Good for the ones who talked. They knew they did wrong and they should be punished.

grovetownman
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grovetownman 03/21/13 - 05:43 pm
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They must suspend them now. Same thing happened to the lakeside baseball team. Do for one do for all. To bad for them. They were good. Life lesson boys, learn from the mistakes we've all made.

Riverman1
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Riverman1 03/21/13 - 05:48 pm
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How do y'all feel about the

How do y'all feel about the three teams left they have to play, only using their JV players against them since Greenbrier is going to have to use their JV players? I suspect the Columbia County teams would do it, but the administrators won't allow such a gesture.

Young Fred
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Young Fred 03/21/13 - 06:23 pm
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I’m with Fiat_Lux on this

I’m with Fiat_Lux on this one.

Don’t mistake, I’m not condoning this behavior (it’s a shame that I even have to make that statement within a discussion about young adults). This has been going on since time immemorial! Do you even realize the number of championship high school teams from times past that would have fell afoul of this type of behavior?

Richmond Academy has a historic past that 70 somethings brag about to this day. Do you not believe that a few of those historic baseball players had a drink or two when celebrating a win?

Grow the hell up!

edit: I have to say we can never condone this behaviour, because that would be like a free pass. But let's get real. A stern talking to while scareing the bejezzus out of them should get the job done.

woodymeister
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woodymeister 03/21/13 - 06:23 pm
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Riv...you're just too close

You seem to know an awful lot about the situation that wouldn't seem to be public knowledge. Are you associated with Greenbrier schools? And if I was on one of those teams, I would mercy rule them in the first half.

jmo
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jmo 03/21/13 - 06:25 pm
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Whatever happened to the girls

that put the glue in the locks at the Columbia County school last year? Was that swept under the rug?

Riverman1
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Riverman1 03/21/13 - 06:36 pm
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Woodymeister, nope, I stayed at a Holiday Inn

Woodymeister, nope, I stayed at a Holiday Inn last night. Actually, Lakeside is the team I support. We went through something similar last year. My view is represented by Fiat and Young Fred. None of us are condoning the behavior, but it wasn't THAT big of a deal. It's something most of us did. As Fiat said, sending them to the Alternative School is absurd.

writer
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writer 03/21/13 - 07:07 pm
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It is hard to believe that

It is hard to believe that many commenters are giving these guys a pass. They were at a school event - a well respected tournament - they knew the rules (and the law)! They broke the rules and the law! Kids have been sent to the alternative school for years for drinking/using drugs at school or school functions. I recall some kids coming to a CC prom drunk and being suspended, going to tribunal and finishing the rest of the year at Crossroads. They need to learn the lesson that if you indulge in risky behavior and get caught, you often pay harsh consequences that mess up your athletic career and your future. I feel sick for the adults, coaches and parents, who will take the heat and I feel sick for the boys who have messed up and maybe changed the course of their lives. But, the punishment must be harsh and even handed. The last thing they need to hear or read is a bunch of adults excusing this kind of behavior. Unfortunately, the district will become the heavy in this story and the needed message will be muddled.

happychimer
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happychimer 03/21/13 - 07:09 pm
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So sports players can pick

So sports players can pick and choose which rules to break. that is putting too much importance on sports. Giving them a ticket to break all the rules just because they play on a team is wrong.they were on a school trip! They were not at home or just off with friends. It would have still been wrong, but on school trip!

GiantsAllDay
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GiantsAllDay 03/21/13 - 07:13 pm
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School cop trolling kids

School cop trolling kids twitter and Facebook accounts. Disgusting. School cops remind me of neidermeyer in animal house. "Killed by own troops in Vietnam"

Just My Opinion
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Just My Opinion 03/21/13 - 07:38 pm
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You know what, this might

You know what, this might just be a ridiculous punishment for this type of infraction, but it is what it is. It's true, years ago with this type of thing, nothing was really done except maybe a slap on the wrist. But through the years, more incidents led to more chances for lawsuits and big money being thrown around...hence, more rules and tighter reigns! All in the effort to avoid lawsuits! In this situation, if nothing had been done and administrators looked the other way, one of those pinhead parents could've seen a chance to make money from the so-called negligence of the chaperones...don't believe me? Just look at a couple of the previous comments! Overall, I blame the lawyers for helping to create this litigious society where everyone is looking to make an easy and fast buck! In this case, administrators HAVE to treat EVERY situation with the same blinders on...everyone and every situation has to be treated within the same standards. It stinks, but that IS the world we live in. We have no one to blame but ourselves.

histmom
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histmom 03/21/13 - 07:51 pm
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Rule of law

We live in a nation governed by laws. These students knew what the school rules were. They sign a code of behavior every year. It sickens me to hear adults say this is no big deal. These rules aren't arbitrary. They are made for reasons of safety and take into consideration the laws of Georgia. Time to learn to take responsiblity for their actions.

I am sure the adults with the students followed the rules. It is very difficult to lose sleep to check on these young people throughout the night. Coaches make very little money for all the work they do and they take their careers in their hands when they go off on a trip like this with your children. Maybe if they were being taught at home that you suffer the consequences of your actions rather than its ok its no worse than what we did in my day.

Sorry that Greenbrier students and school are going through this. Hope the students involved learn something from this incident.

specsta
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specsta 03/21/13 - 08:05 pm
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Appropriate Punishment

Kicked off the soccer team? Check.

Suspended for 10 days? Check.

I don't really see a problem with the discipline that was enacted against these athletes for drinking alcohol on a school trip. Maybe they'll learn their lesson and respect their bodies a bit more, instead of indulging in a drug like it's no big deal.

Young Fred
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Young Fred 03/21/13 - 08:09 pm
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Just My Opinion

You make excellent points that I can't really debate. I'm asking that all of you look back to your own time during high school. If every skeleton in your closet was bared for all to see, how would you stand up to the scrutiny of these here posters?

Again, it can't be condoned, but, but, but, can't their be a happy medium found without destroying the future of these young athletes? Let's consider what they could be doing with their spare time.

I think that an overall look at the entirety of their career is in order. Yes I know, such common sense approaches has not much of a chance in today's public education system.

What a shame! One infraction – and a future stopped cold.

Man it's tough out there for todays kids!!!!

redapples
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redapples 03/21/13 - 08:15 pm
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As for taping the doors of

As for taping the doors of student rooms at bedtime, I have recently learned from students that they have a work around for that. They simply have students from other schools tape them back in their rooms. As for the adult chaperones, I feel for them. The spotlight is on them, but they may well have done all they thought to do and this still happened. Personally, this is why I do not like chaperoning high school overnight events. I feel like a warden of a prison and get very little sleep!

Riverman1
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Riverman1 03/21/13 - 08:24 pm
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By the way, I don't fault the

By the way, I don't fault the coaches or other adult chaperones. We can take up for the coaches and kids at the same time. This was the proverbial making a mountain out of a molehill.

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KSL 03/21/13 - 09:19 pm
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Both sides

Have made excellent points. I did not drink in high school. I was was not aware of drinking except kids who didn't exactly fit in with our crowd.

Wait, I was a skinny kid. Sherry was supposed to stimulate the appetite. So I was served a glass of sherry occasionally,like when I asked for one, usually after someone had commented about how thin I was.

I had a huge appetite, and I could pack the food away sfter school and before dinner

Just My Opinion
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Just My Opinion 03/21/13 - 09:35 pm
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Young Fred, I don't disagree

Young Fred, I don't disagree with you. I was making a point about where we have placed ourselves. And it IS a shame. It would be so much better if we weren't forced to react in such a knee-jerk kind of way. I would really hate to see any kid who makes a foolish mistake be dragged through the mud.

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