Woman, 60, arrested on weapons charges

Wednesday, April 25, 2012 2:12 PM
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Marlene Grant
Marlene Grant

A 60-year-old woman was arrested on obstruction and weapon charges after authorities said she assaulted a Georgia Health Sciences University police officer Tuesday.

According to university incident report, Officer Carole Romero asked Marlene Grant, who had no visible school badge, if she was a student after she was seen walking through Lot 1 around 9:50 a.m. Grant told the officer she was not a student and was in a hurry.

When the officer asked for identification, Grant, who resides on the 1400 block of Walton Way, continued walking and replied “Just shoot me.”

When the officer again tried to stop the woman, Grant punched the officer in the eye. During the struggle that ensued, Grant also bit the officer’s upper arm.

The officer put a Taser to the suspect’s back, but the prongs did not make contact with any skin.

A second officer assisted in putting Grant on the ground. Police said Grant’s thigh was tasered a after she refused to follow commands.

Following the incident, officers discovered a knife with a 3-inch blade wrapped in a bandana in Grant’s pocket.

She was booked in the Richmond County Sheriff’s Office on charges of obstruction of a law enforcement officer and weapons in a school safety zone.

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twolane
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twolane 04/25/12 - 01:59 pm
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so who says that you dont
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so who says that you dont have to show or have id on you person again

fatboyhog
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fatboyhog 04/25/12 - 09:10 pm
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I hope that the officer is

I hope that the officer is ok, but I have to ask. Why is this story according to the Richmond Co. Sheriff's Office? Did a Deputy have to handle this call? If so, why???

Willow Bailey
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Willow Bailey 04/25/12 - 09:15 pm
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An unusual response coming

An unusual response coming from a woman. Very strange behavior.

fatboyhog
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fatboyhog 04/25/12 - 09:25 pm
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It's not all that unusual.

It's not all that unusual. There are many deranged/intoxicated people walking the streets. Law enforcement deals with these types all the time.

aubaug
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aubaug 04/25/12 - 10:07 pm
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Ha! Ha! Willow Bailey! You

Ha! Ha! Willow Bailey! You ought to take a stroll through one of our public schools! Everyday experience!

Abbynoll
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Abbynoll 04/25/12 - 10:50 pm
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fatboyhog- because GHSU may

fatboyhog- because GHSU may arrest people, but they have to be booked in and warrants issued through Richmond County. Warrants and reports are turned in to RCSO when someone is arrested.

scgator
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scgator 04/26/12 - 05:38 am
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this is liberalism at its

this is liberalism at its best; I am not taking up for "assaulting an officer"; but it could be Miss Grant had a bad day and the "officer" may have been over zealous. Not all officers use or even have good people skills or tact.

Another issue is the charge of a weapon on school property; this is an adult campus and hardly an environment that calls for such a charge. I have carried a "pocketknife" for over 50 years, and I guess if needed, it could become a weapon of self defense. I learned to whittle with it, used it as a screwdriver, a tool, cut string with it, clean my fingernails with it. And I guess if I am ever stopped by the "gestapo" while picking up grandkids from school, I will become a "criminal". The AC will read "senior citizen stopped at elementary school with weapon" LOLOLOLOL.........with Miss Grant, IMO, it should only be classifieds as a weapon if she took it out and the "officer" was threatened by her; up until that point, it is just a pocketknife, nothing else.

robaroo
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robaroo 04/26/12 - 05:54 am
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I agree with scgator. I

I agree with scgator. I carry a pocket knife too.

Unless Mrs. Grant threatened the officer with it, it was just a tool.

fatboyhog
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fatboyhog 04/26/12 - 05:57 am
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abbynoll- Why? They are state

abbynoll- Why? They are state officers with arrest powers. They make arrests all the time. I'm wondering, did they make the arrest and commit, or did they call RCSO to do all the "dirty work"? The way this article is written, it sounds like RCSO did the report. If so, why? Why are deputies doing the work of MCG Police?

fatboyhog
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fatboyhog 04/26/12 - 06:03 am
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If scgator and robaroo can't

If scgator and robaroo can't understand why a knife (over a certain length) would be prohibited on a school campus, adult or otherwise, I don't think there's a need to try and explain it. And in reference to scgator's assertion that she may have been "having a bad day", that does NOT excuse blowing off an officers request to see ID. She was on their campus. Whether or not she was having a "bad day" does not warrant walking away from an officer when asked for ID. That's twice in a two week period a comment has alluded to someone having a "bad day" as a excuse to disrespect and assault an officer. Why was she on campus? Maybe she looked out of place? Maybe there was a complaint? I love how the police are immediately characterized as "overzealous" and disrespectful behavior of a citizen is dismissed as a "bad day".

Iwannakno
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Iwannakno 04/26/12 - 06:37 am
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I learned almost as soon as I
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I learned almost as soon as I could walk that when a police officer asks you questions you comply. Even if you are having a "bad day". Anyone that hasn't learned that isn't very bright. I don't agree with the weapons charge unless she threatened to use it or pulled it out of her pocket. A ballpoint pin is more of a weapon than a 3 inch pocket knife. I think there is more to this story than we are getting.

stillamazed
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stillamazed 04/26/12 - 06:44 am
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The problem here is that

The problem here is that people think they can do whatever they want to do and the heck with rules. If she was in a place where she did not belong and acting the way she was acting, I certainly would not have wanted to come in contact with her if she was carrying a knife. People can say they carry things for personal protection but if they get angry with you they can also very well use it to hurt or kill you. Pampas or nasty attitudes don't get you anywhere.

harley_52
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harley_52 04/26/12 - 07:04 am
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Car keys can be used as a

Car keys can be used as a weapon. Perhaps carrying a set of car keys should be criminalized as should, I suppose, hammers, screwdrivers, and tableware.

Why don't we pass laws to make things REALLY safe?

Jeepster2001
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Jeepster2001 04/26/12 - 07:06 am
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You don't wrap a pocketknife
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You don't wrap a pocketknife in a bandana.

SAPCS
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SAPCS 04/26/12 - 07:38 am
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@fatboyhog--Where exactly are

@fatboyhog--Where exactly are MCG officers supposed to "hold" the folks they arrest? I don't think there's a jail on campus.

scgator
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scgator 04/26/12 - 08:02 am
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NOTHING in the article said

NOTHING in the article said she was not in a place she did not belong; I agree she should not have "blown off the officer". But, you have to consider, did the officer act in a professional manner upfront? I do not condone any disrespect to officers, but realize that sometimes an officer is not always on his best behavior either.

As for a pocketknife on a campus; GET REAL..........while it is true that weapons should not be on school campuses; this I understand, but let's look at this from a Homeland Security viewpoint........my wife has crocheted for over 50 years and carries it everywhere with her..but, is not allowed on a plane with it because a crochet needle is now considered a "weapon", along with knitting needles, my diabetic syringes, and my key for my truck (it's length overall is 3"). The point I am trying to make here is that we are allowing our freedoms to be mandated away from us simply out of fear and the fact that we ALLOW biG brother to redefine and reclassify our words and definitions; a stick, rock, heavy book, etc. can be considered weapons if the person using it is attempting to do bodily harm. ANYTHING is a weapon, if you choose it to be so.

............I can understand, nobody needs to walk around with a machete, or bowie knife strapped to their side, but a pocket knife is a pocket knife !!

One thing I have learned over the years is that a person who views things criminally, it is because they too, THINK like a criminal. If I viewed a pocket knife like a criminal, I would think...ooooh, a nice concealed weapon; but, I look at my pocket knife and think, I need to open a letter or maybe clean my fingernails. YOU SEE WHAT YOU SEE BECAUSE YOU ARE WHERE YOU ARE...........

itsanotherday1
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itsanotherday1 04/26/12 - 08:10 am
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I agree with gator and

I agree with gator and robaroo, the weapons charge is a crock. As Harley also points out, I can take one of these new car keys, clutch it it my fist with the key blade protruding between my fingers, and kill you with one blow to the temple. (yes, i've practiced that grip- it is a good self defense tactic if needed)

swinter05
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swinter05 04/26/12 - 08:42 am
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The article doesn't need to

The article doesn't need to say "she was where she shouldn't be", it clearly states that she didn't have a badge, so that is enough for the officer to ask for ID, if she is not a student. And my papa used his pocket knife for all those things...cleaning fingernails, opening letters, etc., but it is corrupt morals of this society, that have brought about changes to the meaning of all those tools, because everyone of them have been used as a weapon. It's unfortunate that it is what it is, but to blame the police, that's just silly. 95% of them do their job correctly and are not out there to "hunt you down."

TK3
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TK3 04/26/12 - 08:42 am
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If the campus is considered

If the campus is considered private property, campus police have right to ask for I.D. but NOT if it is considered public property and the individual was not committing a crime. Papers please !

twolane
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twolane 04/26/12 - 08:47 am
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hey nazis once again what did
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hey nazis once again what did this sixty year old woman do that warranted this cop to ask for an ID...last time i checked if you are not breaking the law you do not have to show a cop an ID

twolane
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twolane 04/26/12 - 08:51 am
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ahhh and now lovebug gives
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ahhh and now lovebug gives the real story there

TParty
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TParty 04/26/12 - 09:01 am
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A police officer asking for

A police officer asking for an ID is a liberal thing now? Wanting to punish a woman for hitting a police officer and biting them is a liberal thing now? I'm so confused....

dawgfan3730
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dawgfan3730 04/26/12 - 09:06 am
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To let ya'll in on a secret

To let ya'll in on a secret about the way cops think. We are trained to think like a criminal. Lets get serious we all know that this weapons charge will more than likely get dropped all together and the obstruction charge will more than likely be dropped to a disorderly conduct. Now everyone here knows the law about having weapons on school campuses. But the comments claiming this is a bogus charge is coming from people that would show ID when asked by an officer. The people that put up a fuss are usually the ones we have to worry about the most. If I was in that same situation I would charge her also. I would bet if this lady would have shown her ID and had a good reason for what she was doing there she would have been sent on her way if she had no outstanding warrants. With all the break-ins and entering auto's we have had it is good that people are stopped and questioned. Otherwise hard working people would be coming back to their vehicles and have windows smashed and items stolen more than we already do.

jennyrviera
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jennyrviera 04/26/12 - 09:14 am
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So lovebug520, if you were

So lovebug520, if you were parked in lot 1 and this woman approached you and pulled the "pocket knife", would you rather the GHSU officer just keep walking, or run to protect you? And lot 1 is campus parking and I am sure that some students and staff are grateful that this was handled prior to anyone being in that lot and becoming a victim! And as far as the weapons charge, IT WAS WRAPPED IN A BANDANA and yes she does deserve a charge for that, but read what the charge is people, it says she was charged with having a weapon in a SCHOOL SAFETY ZONE! If you look at all of the local schools, elem, middle, HS, etc, if that school has signs around a certain ZONE area, ie Drug Free School Zone, you will notice there is an "invisible line" around each school that is called the SAFE ZONE! She invaded that safe zone by having a "knife" in that zone. And how do you know it was a pocket knife?? It says they found a knife with a 3 in blade. If this woman had been on a "child" campus would you all still feel the same about her "pocket knife"???

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Fiat_Lux 04/26/12 - 09:21 am
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A person doesn't have to have

A person doesn't have to have an MCG ID badge to be in an MCG parking lot, and unless she was acting suspiciously, ie, looking into cars, the MCG policewoman didn't really have a reason to stop her and demand identification.This woman might have been a patient running late for her doctor's appointment, quite a trek from Lot 1. Or perhaps she needed a restroom, or maybe she was racing to her grandchild. Just watching her would have been sufficient, or even asking her to leave.

Of course, not dealing with the officer appropriately was a big mistake, even though some of the lesser versions of GHSU security are absolute jerks. I'd be mad too if a cop stopped me simply because they felt like it--but punching and biting, uh, no. Nobody does that unless they're stupid or just nuts.

We aren't required to get a permit to carry a pocketknife concealed, so the weapons charge is bogus if she didn't pull it out and threaten anyone with it. You can't take weapons into MCG buildings--and I'm not sure that even extends to pocketknives, but there is no prohibition related to parking lots or personal conveyances.

raul
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raul 04/26/12 - 09:23 am
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@Harley52. Welcome back! Hope

@Harley52. Welcome back! Hope you are doing well.

kiwiinamerica
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kiwiinamerica 04/26/12 - 09:28 am
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What a great
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What a great mughsot.........LOL!! Did she get that beautiful shiner in the struggle with the cops or was that the result of another incident?

Folks, walk through the incident chronologically. When you're on GHSU property and a cop politely asks you your business and requests ID, do not say "shoot me", OK?? We can argue all day about what constitutes a weapon but this woman brought this all on herself. This would have been all over in two minutes and there would have been no need to go through her belongings if she had not allowed her problem with authority to get the better of her. Drop the 'tude, sistah!

When you get lippy with a cop, you can expect blow-back.

David Parker
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David Parker 04/26/12 - 09:39 am
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this could have been avoided.

this could have been avoided. Enough said.

madgerman
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madgerman 04/26/12 - 09:42 am
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Based on the charge, the
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Based on the charge, the police need to raid the entire parking lot at Augusta tech and arrest every one of those with weapons (screwdrivers, hammers, wrenchs, hack saws, and knives or box cutters) in their cars. As our esteemed Sheriff recently explained, ignorance of the law is no excuse, And an excuse that these students are also working stiffs shouldn't matter even if it is an adult school. This is what we can expect with outsourcing of requirements. BTW when this woman sues for false arrest, whoi will pay the bill?

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gutdawg 04/26/12 - 10:58 am
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I work at GHSU and if you

I work at GHSU and if you people think that crimes don't happen there, then you are living in a fantasy world. Look at the campus crime report, very few of the crimes committed on this campus are committed by anyone with connections to the school. All of you worried about RCSO doing GHSU police work, all of the cases whether it is criminal or traffic go thru RC Courts. All of you worried about Ms. Grant making her appointment, getting to her grandkids, etc.etc., could have been stated when asked by the officer, but SHE chose not to cooperate. Bottom line people, SHE ASSAULTED AN OFFICER. End of discussion...I applaud the Campus Police for the work they do!

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