Group defending religious freedom forms Augusta chapter

Tuesday, March 27, 2012 1:02 PM
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A new chapter of Americans United for Separation of Church and State has formed in Augusta.

The Central Savannah River Chapter of Americans United for Separation of Church and State is being created to defend religious freedom and church-state separation, chapter president Frank Carl said.

The group aims to address several issues, including the role of religion in public education, taxpayer funding of religious schools, government display of religious symbols and the right to religious freedom.

Americans United was founded in 1947 and is headquartered in Washington, D.C.

Local residents who want to learn more can e-mail the chapter at amunitedcsra@gmail.com or call (706) 364-5253.

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crkgrdn
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crkgrdn 03/27/12 - 12:37 pm
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So, does this group advocate

So, does this group advocate the removal of military chaplains?

Can yo ever separate Church and State, and do you really want to do that.

Jefferson meant something quite different from what folks think he wrote in that letter to the Baptist congregation in Virginia. And, of course Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independence that makes it clear where our civil liberties originate....with God.

whatmistake
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whatmistake 03/27/12 - 12:52 pm
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Anyone taking bets on when

Anyone taking bets on when the first lawsuit is filed by these guys?

FormerAugustaResident
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FormerAugustaResident 03/27/12 - 01:16 pm
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Excellent! Since they are

Excellent! Since they are interested in defending religious freedom, will they be taking up the cause of Catholics (and others) being bullied by the federal government to violate their religious convictions by forcibly providing (and paying for) services which they deem sinful?

I hope Mr. Carl will speak to this watershed issue as one of the bedrocks of our society (religous freedom, that is...).

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Dixieman 03/27/12 - 01:20 pm
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Most misleading headline

Most misleading headline ever!

wondersnevercease
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wondersnevercease 03/27/12 - 01:30 pm
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Sounds like another "hate
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Sounds like another "hate Christian" group..............................

Retired Army
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Retired Army 03/27/12 - 03:14 pm
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Well, there's the expressed

Well, there's the expressed opinion of 4 "bidness" church people.

FormerAugustaResident
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FormerAugustaResident 03/27/12 - 07:40 pm
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Please help: "bidness" ?? I

Please help:
"bidness" ?? I don't know what that is.

Update...I wasn't trying to be condescending to my Retired Army friend...I just frankly don't understand what is intended. ??

jic
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jic 03/27/12 - 05:29 pm
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FormerAugustaResident,
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FormerAugustaResident, Catholics being bullied? Better the church should be denied federal monetary support of their mission? Better they should be required to hire only Catholic employees instead of trying to attract the best and the brightest from the "common" pot. Better they don't serve non-Catholic patients because "the public welfare" is drastically different from Catholic orthodoxy? Fine. Fair is fair. Be careful what you wish for.

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GaStang22 03/27/12 - 06:20 pm
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I couldn't find "bidness" in
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I couldn't find "bidness" in the dictionary either.

FormerAugustaResident
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FormerAugustaResident 03/27/12 - 07:29 pm
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jic, yes, bullied. One

jic, yes, bullied. One doesn't have to look far to see how the work of Catholics (of which I AM NOT one) benefits many (hospitals, schools, foreign relief efforts, adoption / orphan support, etc.). You are doing an excellent job of making my point. It is exactly because they do not discriminate (do you know of anyone turned away from the former St. Joseph Hospital because they weren't Catholic?). What I wish for? A government who doesn't try to blur the lines between freedom of religion and a federal mandate that rides roughshod over constitutionally protected liberties. No apologies...we all (Catholic, Protestant, atheist, etc.) should be alarmed by such bullying.

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Techfan 03/28/12 - 05:51 am
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My religious beliefs are that

My religious beliefs are that women should stay at home, not be in the workforce, therefore, I'm allowed to not hire women.

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Little Lamb 03/28/12 - 09:44 am
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I wonder how Deke's prayer

I wonder how Deke's prayer breakfasts will go down with this group?

allmostgone
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allmostgone 03/28/12 - 11:02 am
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WOW! And all this time I
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WOW! And all this time I thought this Country was run by Cristian Hypocrites.

ForeverFrog
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ForeverFrog 03/28/12 - 07:45 pm
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Question with boldness even

Question with boldness even the existence of a god; because if there be one he must approve of the homage of reason more than that of blindfolded fear.
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 10, 1787

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ForeverFrog 03/28/12 - 07:47 pm
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Where the preamble declares,

Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed by inserting "Jesus Christ," so that it would read "A departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;" the insertion was rejected by the great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohammedan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination.
-Thomas Jefferson, Autobiography, in reference to the Virginia Act for Religious Freedom

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ForeverFrog 03/28/12 - 07:56 pm
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:)

:)

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ForeverFrog 03/28/12 - 07:51 pm
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Believing with you that

Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between church and State.
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Danbury Baptist Association, CT., Jan. 1, 1802

ForeverFrog
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ForeverFrog 03/28/12 - 08:00 pm
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The whole history of these

The whole history of these books [the Gospels] is so defective and doubtful that it seems vain to attempt minute enquiry into it: and such tricks have been played with their text, and with the texts of other books relating to them, that we have a right, from that cause, to entertain much doubt what parts of them are genuine. In the New Testament there is internal evidence that parts of it have proceeded from an extraordinary man; and that other parts are of the fabric of very inferior minds. It is as easy to separate those parts, as to pick out diamonds from dunghills.
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Adams, January 24, 1814

ForeverFrog
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ForeverFrog 03/28/12 - 08:01 pm
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Christianity neither is, nor

Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814

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Riverman1 03/28/12 - 08:09 pm
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ForeverFrog, I'll give you

ForeverFrog, I'll give you Jefferson and the Founding Fathers were Deists, careful to protect all religions and not to especially create provisions for Christianity. However, those who came before them to settle America were fundamentalist Christians of various persuasions and they were also being respected and protected by the writers of our form of government.

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Riverman1 03/28/12 - 08:10 pm
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By the way, is that Frank

By the way, is that Frank Carl who used to lead Savannah RiverKeepers?

ForeverFrog
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ForeverFrog 03/28/12 - 08:56 pm
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RM I believe that's the same

RM I believe that's the same Dr. Frank Carl.

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