Lakeside Middle girl arrested for copying 'Rape Gang' action

Thursday, March 1, 2012 2:51 PM
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Columbia County authorities arrested a Lakeside Middle School pupil Wednesday after she emulated the Charlie Rape Gang.

The 12-year-old girl was caught “dry-humping” several classmates in hallways and a classroom while shouting “CRG,” the initials for the Charlie Rape Gang, according to a sheriff’s office report.

Five Lakeside Middle pupils calling themselves the Charlie Rape Gang appeared in Columbia County Juvenile Court the same day as this new incident on charges of simple battery for knocking down and dry-humping classmates. Two 13-year-old boys were expelled. Another 13-year-old and two 12-year-olds were sent back to the school, but still might face expulsion once they appear before a school system hearing officer.

The girl appeared Wednesday before Juvenile Court Judge Doug Flanagan, who said she attempted sexual contact with at least three boys. She was charged with simple battery, sexual battery against a child under 16, and disruption or interference with operation of a public school.

Flanagan sent the girl to the Regional Youth Detention Center in Sandersville, Ga., and said Wednesday that he intends to make her undergo a psychological evaluation.

During an assembly of Evans Middle pupils Thursday, Flanagan said simple battery constitutes unwanted touching, like shoving. Sexual battery is unwelcome touching of someone’s “private parts.”

Reach Donnie Fetter at (706) 868-1222, ext. 115, or donnie.fetter@augustachronicle.com.

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David Parker
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David Parker 03/01/12 - 04:09 pm
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This is gonna boil it right

This is gonna boil it right on over and down the sides of the cabinets onto the floor further. Everyone just breath now.

So obviously, the issues are going to center on the discrepancy between the less-than-severe punishment to the 5 boys and the more severe punishment for the girl.

I assume there was an extenuating circumstance that prompted His Honor to throw the book at this young lady. Or I know I remember hearing that "Going forward" no more light punishments. But to that , I 'd say that the turn around was too short and she should be given the benefit of the doubt that she didn't know the gravity of her copy-cat actions.

BamaMan
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BamaMan 03/01/12 - 04:13 pm
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Can you believe this??!! Make

Can you believe this??!! Make an example of ones that thumb their nose at the legal system Judge!

Cynical old woman
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Cynical old woman 03/01/12 - 04:22 pm
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And I figured the original

And I figured the original punks that were charged would think they had gotten away with something. I could just imagine the high fives, the snickering, etc. BUT NOW....I have to agree with them. They sent the majority of the boys back to school, a couple of repeat disciplinary problem boys to alternative school and this gal to a YDC facility! Wow! Just wow!

ripjones256
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ripjones256 03/01/12 - 04:30 pm
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I would agree. Unless this
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I would agree. Unless this girl is a troublemaker, Judge Flanagan -- you messed up.

dstewartsr
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dstewartsr 03/01/12 - 04:36 pm
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Un-freaking-believable. I

Un-freaking-believable. I waited patiently, withholding comment on the entire Charlie Rape Gang episode, wondering when someone might bring up the main point. Some posters alluded to it by writing if it were their daughters who were the victims, the outcome would have been more dire for the perpetrators. Why? Has homosexuality become so protected a class that even (simulated) gang rape is acceptable? There is no other way to describe the acts; why so eager to dismiss it as seemingly good clean adolescent fun?

If these little scumbags had gotten together to torment a cat, we’d all see the warning signs. Counselors would ooze from the woodwork. G-d forbid they should draw a picture of a gun; SWAT would have dragged them off to juvie jail forthwith! But a little simulated --practice, no doubt-- gang rape? Prank.

When they graduate to a bed at the big house, there will always be some Monday quarterback asking why we didn’t see the signs. Willful blindness, anyone?

Now, Judge Hang ‘em High has locked up a girl --not a gang-- for the same thing? No one thrown to the ground, held down, or threatened? Gee, that kid's parents must not be politically well-connected at all.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 03/01/12 - 04:36 pm
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From the article: Sexual

From the article:

Sexual battery is unwelcome touching of someone’s “private parts.”

Presuming clothing stayed on, are you really touching someone's private parts if the parts are clothed?

Mr. Thackeray
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Mr. Thackeray 03/01/12 - 04:40 pm
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Once again who is NOT

Once again who is NOT monitoring the kids. There should be NO place in a middle school were kids are not monitored.

kiwiinamerica
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kiwiinamerica 03/01/12 - 04:42 pm
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Good Lawwd!!
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Good Lawwd!!

azdesertrat
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azdesertrat 03/01/12 - 04:44 pm
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My hat goes off to the Judge!

My hat goes off to the Judge! There are two main problems with todays kids:
1) the crap they are allowed to watch on TV and language they are allowed to listen to in music. It all influences their under developed minds and
2) the BOARD of EDUCATION needs to be put to the SEAT of LEARNING of more students.
When I was going to school, the teacher and the principle were ALLOWED to put the board of education to the seat of learning, when a student crossed the line. I'm NOT talking about beating a student, but giving them a good lick or two with a good wooden paddle can and will straighten out a student or childs attitude. Today, the students have more rights than a teacher does and THAT is not right. It is NOT right that a student can verbally abuse a teacher and the teacher can do NOTHING about it and some kids have their parent(s) wrapped around their little finger and their parent(s) really don't realize they have a mean bully on their hands until it's too late.

crkgrdn
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crkgrdn 03/01/12 - 04:46 pm
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Yep, Mr. Thackeray, where are

Yep, Mr. Thackeray, where are the adults? Where's the supervision.

So, what's next?

Craig Spinks
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Craig Spinks 03/01/12 - 04:49 pm
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Wonder if the twelve-year-old

Wonder if the twelve-year-old female enrollee continues to believe that "they can't do nothing to me?"

KUDOS, Judge Flanagan.

lddist
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lddist 03/01/12 - 04:56 pm
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@little lamb...if you kick

@little lamb...if you kick someone in the groin are you really kicking them there if they are wearing pants?

jfp
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jfp 03/01/12 - 05:02 pm
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Is anyone paying attention to

Is anyone paying attention to what has really happened here? These kids know the difference between right and wrong. The real problem is that we have taught them and society that you have 3 strikes and that is our fault as adults and American society. This story just came out and might be new to some of the readers, but these kids have known about it for some time. So I agree with the judge, it has to be taken seriously. Kids today, think they are 10 feet tall and bullet proof. The teachers hands are tied most of the time and are constantly just trying to keep peace.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 03/01/12 - 05:04 pm
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If you kick someone in the

If you kick someone in the groin, you have committed battery. If you did it with malice aforethought, you have committed assault and battery. But it is not necessarily sexual battery.

jfp
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jfp 03/01/12 - 05:07 pm
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Little Lamb, so are you

Little Lamb, so are you telling me that you wouldn't know if someone groped you unless you were naked or someone had ripped your clothes off?

KSL
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KSL 03/01/12 - 05:17 pm
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Kicking someone in the groin

Kicking someone in the groin is generally not an expression of sex. Touching them certainly can be.

Little Lamb
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Little Lamb 03/01/12 - 05:11 pm
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AZdesertrat wrote: When I was

AZdesertrat wrote:

When I was going to school, the teacher and the principle were ALLOWED to put the board of education to the seat of learning, when a student crossed the line. I'm NOT talking about beating a student, but giving them a good lick or two with a good wooden paddle can and will straighten out a student or childs attitude.

Naturally, I did not major in education, so I may be a bit presumptive in saying the following, but I think in our colleges and universities today, the prevailing trend in the theory of education is that corporal punishment is not good for adults or students — it is not effective. So if the products of our schools of education are taught that corporal punishment is bad, they will not use it in their profession.

Note, I am not saying I agree with the trend, I'm just saying that trying to re-instate corporal punishment into primary and secondary education will be very difficult to accomplish.

jfp
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jfp 03/01/12 - 05:17 pm
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Little Lamb, your last

Little Lamb, your last comment has nothing to do with anything you said prior. You were questioning if touching someone personal parts while clothed was sexual battery.

KSL
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KSL 03/01/12 - 05:20 pm
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I agree with you, Little

I agree with you, Little Lamb. There is far too much worry about damaging their delicate little egos. The truth is, corporal punishment was quite effective.

madgerman
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madgerman 03/01/12 - 05:34 pm
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First of all he did not send
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First of all he did not send her to a "detention center". Rather he sent her to a "development campus". He or the AC needs to get the PC straight. Something seems wrong with the descripton also - she was "caught" dry humping "several" classmates in "hallways" and a "classroom"? I would think that if the police had been called and she was led away in handcuffs that the rest of the school would have gotten the message pretty clearly. And Thackery has it absolutely right. But where are the cameras? You would think that a set like they sell in Sams club would be sufficient and at little cost. If we want kids to grow up respecting the law, then we need to start teaching them what happens when laws are broken - and it isn't just detention or expulsion.

CarlA
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CarlA 03/01/12 - 05:43 pm
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nm

nm

jrcmom
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jrcmom 03/01/12 - 06:02 pm
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The two boys that were sent

The two boys that were sent to Alternative School were actually sent to Sandersville RYDC, I believe. They had been in trouble before and don't know why one was even allowed in the school after hitting a teacher and blackening her eye. My granddaughter was assaulted by this girl, who I believe is 15 and not 12 (according to her "friends"). She has also been in trouble several times before. It's my understanding that the perpetrators are siblings of another "gang" at Lakesie High where the same thing is happening. Authorities have been notified.

scoobynews
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scoobynews 03/01/12 - 06:17 pm
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You can have all the

You can have all the supervision in the world but when you have about 31 to 28 kids per classroom as we do when they pour out into the halls it is pure chaos. Our hall alone has about 300 kids changing classes at the same time. Our kids also don't travel by homeroom groups but rather like high school but more contained with a team of teachers. I am constantly breaking up little gangs of students just "hanging out" in the hall. It is very easy with the division of classrooms and bathrooms in between for some kids to find spots with lesser supervision. As for the classroom situation it is kind of hard to be in the room during class change and in the hall monitoring at the same time. This could have happened very easily during the change of classes.

YeCats
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YeCats 03/01/12 - 06:28 pm
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Schools should be only for

Schools should be only for learning. Not babysitting. If a child breaks the rules, and the teacher/authority cannot exercise correction, call there parent(s) to come get them. Inconvenience the parent enough, and they might figure out that school is not for creating the next "pay-per-view" or reality star. Its about getting a education. If the child doesn't want that, zero tolerance for being a distraction.
Middle school children going before a judge, and going back to school.............. Truly sad.

Willow Bailey
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Willow Bailey 03/01/12 - 06:54 pm
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Pretty unbelievable. Why not

Pretty unbelievable. Why not have made the same point with the original five boys, psycho evals and all; then doubtful the girl would have felt so free to express her admiration since nothing much happened with the boys.. Perhaps, she thought this action would make her popular with a group that had previously ignored her. If I were her mom, right after I got through wearing out her behind; I would start on Judge Flanagan's.

Willow Bailey
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Willow Bailey 03/01/12 - 06:55 pm
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And I noticed there were some

And I noticed there were some hats off to the judge today. Too bad, we didn't have some hats off to him yesterday for the boys outcome. Might not have been a today.

jfp
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jfp 03/01/12 - 07:31 pm
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Willow, do you think Lee

Willow, do you think Lee Harvey Oswald knew what the punishment would be for killing Kennedy. Other presidents had been killed. They all should be punished equally. But unfortunately life isn't fair all of the time. You are saying that it was ok since someone else had already done the same thing. She knew the difference between right and wrong. She knew someone else got in trouble for it and did it anyway. The severity of the others punishment is irrelavant.

KSL
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KSL 03/01/12 - 07:43 pm
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scooby, my middle and high

scooby, my middle and high school had at least that number of pupils per classroom teacher. We were the true baby boomers. There was absolutely no problem with teachers monitoring the halls and classrooms. Back then we were graded in deportment. If you stopped to chat with someone between classes and were caught doing so, you were written up and it showed up on your report card. It went into your school record (college implications) and you certainly had a problem when you reported home with your report card. It was doable then. I don't know why it isn't now. Well I do. The Feds have insinuated themselves into the education process.

dstewartsr
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dstewartsr 03/01/12 - 07:54 pm
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New flash: Teachers aren’t

New flash: Teachers aren’t correction officers. The overwhelming majority of students aren’t criminals. All this hand-wringing over where was the supervision is part and parcel of the mentality that got us here: Someone should have kept these little felons (Don’t think them felons? You go out with a group of friends and assault someone, wrestle them to the ground, simulate copulation and then threaten them if they report it. See how understanding the judge will be.) from committing criminal behaviour against other students. Really? They had no idea they were doing something wrong? That’s why they threatened their victims if they told?

No, the question is not where was supervision. There is also no question how this came about; these bums learned well: We have an out-of-date juvenile justice system designed to deal with Opie throwing erasers and not sophisticated predators who have learned from observation nothing will be done to offenders. This, coupled with an exaggerated sense of entitlement, is a recipe for what happened.

A somnambulant judge living in the past of “Our Gang Comics” tut-tutting and patting the gang on the back with a don’t do this again (guaranteeing they will) suddenly awakes and decides for the sake of the next election to “make an example” just compounds this whole debacle.

Willow Bailey
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Willow Bailey 03/01/12 - 08:06 pm
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jfp, No, absolutely it is not

jfp, No, absolutely it is not okay for this girl to do this. I stated that I would wear mine's behind out. And yes, she should have met with a similar punishment, but I don't think, more. This has to stop before it goes any further.

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