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Columbia County hires lawyer to review Magnolia Trace

Friday, Dec. 9, 2011 4:40 PM
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Columbia County officials have hired an attorney for help in finding a way to halt construction of a “low-income” development in Martinez.

Patrick O’Connor, with the Oliver Maner firm in Savannah, Ga., was hired Friday afternoon to look into the legality of stopping construction of Magnolia Trace on Old Ferry Road, County Administrator Scott Johnson said in an e-mail.

After hearing from dozens of angry residents near Magnolia Trace at Tuesday’s county commission meeting, officials voted to hire a lawyer to find legal grounds that could “interrupt” construction of the 50 homes planed in the “affordable housing” project.

O’Connor has “extensive experience” with fair housing laws and issues pertaining to them, Johnson said.

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OutnAbout
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OutnAbout 12/09/11 - 06:00 pm
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What a waste of money. So

What a waste of money. So will the to doers that are so upset over this put their money up for this attorney? Just don't see why we have to pay an attorney to tell us what is already so black and white. With the exception of the fact that the weel to do were had.

seenitB4
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seenitB4 12/09/11 - 06:03 pm
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They are already paying

They are already paying through taxes....just like they will pay for the homes......it just never stops......give-give-give...tax tax tax.

my.voice
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my.voice 12/09/11 - 06:13 pm
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I hope he's also a magician!

I hope he's also a magician!

scoopdedoop64
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scoopdedoop64 12/09/11 - 06:14 pm
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I would pay for it myself if

I would pay for it myself if I could. And I would just as soon my taxes go to pay to stop this from happening as I would for other frivous things.

class1
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class1 12/09/11 - 06:30 pm
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If you paid a lot for your

If you paid a lot for your house, you wouldn't want anyone moving into your neighborhood play a lot less for rent then you are for your house!

Haki
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Haki 12/09/11 - 08:26 pm
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Again I say: Last I checked,

Again I say: Last I checked, most of Columbia County was affordable housing. If you're able, move into Westlake or a exclusive community. If you can't, you will ALWAYS be amongst affordable housing. Fact: 99% of Columbia County is the 99%. Neighbor!

wildman
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wildman 12/09/11 - 11:27 pm
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The commission and Cross

The commission and Cross screwed this up, they should pay out of pocket. If they had not agreed to the deal they wouldn't need to spend our money (taxes) on a lawyer. Somethings never change, politicians screw up and in the end the tax payer is the one getting, well you can figure it out.

reba530
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reba530 12/10/11 - 01:58 am
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We don't need a lawyer
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We don't need a lawyer because we need to put that housing development in the 2 wise commisioners neighborhood that voted for it to happen and lets see how they like it.

Craig Spinks
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Craig Spinks 12/10/11 - 03:21 am
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Appears that the CCC hired a

Appears that the CCC hired a first-rate, out-of-town attorney to handle this matter. KUDOS to them for that.

Brad Owens
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Brad Owens 12/10/11 - 04:06 am
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OutnAbout, The "to doers" and

OutnAbout,

The "to doers" and the "weel to doers" are not the ones who have been had my freind, if you work and pay taxes it is YOU who are being had.

The folks upset just don't want their hoods to be devalued while they themselves pay the very taxes used to hurt them.

This is about greedy developers getting richer off of using the poor to bilk the middle class. And they even bragged on their website about working to have the state law changed to make it "more accessible to developers and investors alike."

http://www.aepartners.com/state_credits.aspx

Georgia State Tax Credits;

The Georgia Low-Income Housing Tax Credit Program was initially created in 2000 and was modified in August 2001 O.C.G.A. § 48-7-29.6.

AEP has been involved in Georgia since the initial introduction of the state tax credit and was instrumental in formulating the revisions to the statutes in 2001. These revisions simplified the program and made it more accessible to developers and investors alike.

The below references to Georgia State Statute further detail Georgia’s LIHTC legislation:

O.C.G.A. § 48-7-29.6
O.C.G.A. § 33-1-18

For an expanded discussion of the Georgia LIHTC Program, please visit RESOURCES for more information.

If you are an investor and wish to learn more, please contact:
Dan Torgerson
Director of Investor Relations
Email: dtorgerson@aepartners.com
or
Tom Jensen
Director of Transactions
Email: tjensen@aepartners.com
or
by phone at 573.443.2021.

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There is some TRUTH for ya.

They "fixed" the rules so they could get rich on our backs. How did your state rep vote on this bill?

Brad

Techfan
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Techfan 12/10/11 - 08:17 am
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"most of Columbia County was

"most of Columbia County was affordable housing"? That would depend on what your definition of affordable is. Per Realtor.com: average home price of $224,830, median home price of $169,900.

Dixieman
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Dixieman 12/10/11 - 08:24 am
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Why hire someone from

Why hire someone from Savannah? Not enough local lawyers :)?

Riverman1
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Riverman1 12/10/11 - 08:27 am
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Dixieman, the county couldn't

Dixieman, the county couldn't find a Harvard educated lawyer who would take the job. Matter of fact, they couldn't find a county lawyer with a degree from a nonaccredited California school either.

But, seriously, wouldn't it be something if this Savannah attorney could beat this thing or delay it until the company decides to give it up?

henrystripe
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henrystripe 12/10/11 - 10:10 am
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As someone who is sick to

As someone who is sick to death of seeing Columbia County act as though it is soooo much better than Richmond County (while simultaneously benefitting from its proximity to it), I find this hilarious. While CC may have enjoyed an idyllic existence in the suburbs for a while, its residents were living in a fool's paradise and must now WAKE UP to the reality that is not immune to difficult socioeconomic issues other communities must face. The party's over, Columbia County!!!

Brad Owens
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Brad Owens 12/10/11 - 10:24 am
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Oh by the way, "developers"

Oh by the way, "developers" getting these tax credits CANNOT deny Section 8. From The Georgia Low-Income Housing Tax Credit Program O.C.G.A. § 48-7-29.6;

"Section 8 Rental Assistance.

No Owner may deny a unit to applicants possessing a Section 8 Rental Assistance certificate or voucher unless that applicant fails to... meet the minimum requirements for all lease holders. Federal statutes prohibit discrimination against Section 8
certificate and voucher holders. DCA will closely monitor whether the tenant application process is structured to avoid such discrimination or whether any actions are taken to discourage Section 8 Rental Assistance certificate or voucher holders from applying. Likewise, all lease provisions must be compatible and not in conflict with Section 8 leases..."

So in other words, it is in the developer's best interests to court Section 8 and is not allowed to NOT accept them. WOW. The more I read the more I see just how bad we are getting soaked as tax payers.

http://www.dca.state.ga.us/housing/housingdevelopment/programs/downloads...

Brad Owens
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Brad Owens 12/10/11 - 10:52 am
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Henry, So what you are saying

Henry,

So what you are saying is that the entire USA should just get use to the fcat that there will one day be a destruction of our values (both property and personal)?

That we should just get use to "the reality" our own tax dollars will be used agianst us like this?

Glad to know you find it "hilarious" and consider the fruits of good planning and hard work are a "fools'paradise."

Man oh man, what will they do when the checks stop coming and freebies disappear?

Brad

JRC2024
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JRC2024 12/10/11 - 12:36 pm
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Henry, the nice areas of

Henry, the nice areas of Richmond County are just as nice as the ones in Columbia County. It is just that Richmond County has been here so much longer and has more run down areas in the inner city. I used to live in Woodbridge and was broken into 25 years ago. When growth hit the area it had no where to go but to south Richmond County and upwards to Columbia County. It is still growing toward Grovetown and onwards toward Harlem. Not that I want them too but things will change and property crimes will increase also as the population changes. I would hate to make that ride to and from Columbia County to Augusta ever day to work. Did it for 7 years and the traffic was not near as bad as now.

Patty-P
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Patty-P 12/10/11 - 12:23 pm
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I agree with henrystripe.

I agree with henrystripe. Times are changing and the area is expanding with growth. For how long does CC think they will be immune to the same growth and socioeconomic change that RC has experienced?

drivenslow
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drivenslow 12/10/11 - 12:26 pm
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theres those bag of hammers
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theres those bag of hammers again most growth in grovetown is military we like them.......and will you envious jealous losers from richmond county quit downing columbia county we cant help you live in crime infested slums

deon blount
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deon blount 12/10/11 - 01:32 pm
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This is very entertaining.

This is very entertaining. You got to love it they have hire a lawyer what a waste of money,time,and effort.keep building

Brad Owens
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Brad Owens 12/10/11 - 03:50 pm
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Patty-P, Explain exactly what

Patty-P,

Explain exactly what "socioeconomic change" do you see coming with this?

Patty-P
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Patty-P 12/10/11 - 04:16 pm
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Brad not trying to get into a

Brad not trying to get into a long drawn out debate, but basically just saying that Columbia County is going to see the spill-over of lower income families in the future from neighboring counties like RC. I've lived in many places and everywhere I've lived has a lower-income segment of the community. Even Hilton Head/Bluffton, SC has a lower-income population.

wondersnevercease
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wondersnevercease 12/10/11 - 04:19 pm
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"socioeconomic change"...=
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"socioeconomic change"...= the entitlement crowd crawling into middle class neighborhoods and completely destroying them.........................

seenitB4
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seenitB4 12/10/11 - 04:32 pm
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Just a few months ago someone

Just a few months ago someone posted on here that the low income groups would be disbursed into the surrounding areas.....this has been planned & wanted by certain groups....after all why not....tear down the welfare centers in Augusta --get rid of the tax problems--put some expensive townhomes in the spot--hey does that ring a bell?

seenitB4
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seenitB4 12/10/11 - 04:39 pm
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I'm sure some have their

I'm sure some have their ducks in a row .....& the plans have been placed in cement a looong time ago.
Of course you CCty people just didn't get to go to THAT meeting!

seenitB4
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seenitB4 12/10/11 - 04:43 pm
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As much as I hate to see any

As much as I hate to see any neighborhood have trouble.....the one thing some aren't figuring on is that ColCty police won't put up with the nonesense that RCTY has endured....

Patty-P
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Patty-P 12/10/11 - 04:50 pm
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'ColCty police won't put up

'ColCty police won't put up with the nonesense that RCTY has endured....' Exactly.
That's what the problem is in Augusta. I'm not saying what is happening with the MT issue is right, but at some point it is inevitable. Crime will spread eventually. But like seenit said, CC residents can AT LEAST rest assured knowing that public safety will do everything they can to combat crime in their neighborhoods. It isn't that easy in certain areas of RC.

seenitB4
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seenitB4 12/10/11 - 05:02 pm
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I think patty is

I think patty is right....though they won't admit it....crime has gotten out of hand in certain parts of RCty......
I can see Colcty coming down hard on any & all nogooders.......this won't be a picnic & some will probably wish they had never heard of Colcty.

seenitB4
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seenitB4 12/10/11 - 05:04 pm
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Of course I can see Colcty

Of course I can see Colcty taxpayers saying oh crap...more taxes for jails-police-judges- etc........YEP .

GaStang22
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GaStang22 12/10/11 - 05:12 pm
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OutnAbout, answer....yes!!
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OutnAbout, answer....yes!! Our tax dollars are going to help pay. At least we have a say in this expense. Much better to me to spend this to save the area than keep spending it towards paying for people to have brand new large homes that most of us ourselves can not afford!!!

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