Candidate demands student citizen verification

Friday, May 14, 2010 4:44 PM
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ATLANTA - - Republican gubernatorial candidate Eric Johnson fired another volley today  at the University System of Georgia for not agreeing to verify the citizenship of all of the 300,000 students attending the state's 35 public colleges - - this time for quibbling over the costs.
Earlier in the week he had called on the system to check after a campus traffic stop revealed that Kennesaw State University junior Jessica Colotl was an illegal alien. She had been admitted to the school before the University System began asking applicants their citizenship status two years ago.
Today Johnson responded to a Morris News Service story that quoted Chancellor Erroll Davis as saying spending $25 to check the citizenship of every student would total the salaries and benefits of 20 professors.
"If you ask this University System 'is it worth 20 professors to check the backgrounds of students?' I don't think you'll get too many yeses," Davis said Tuesday.
Johnson countered today that the cash-strapped system could use inexpensive means to verify citizenship.
"This is a typical bureaucratic response. First and foremost, we cannot afford to simply ignore the law, and it is unacceptable to brazenly dismiss the responsibility of enforcement," Johnson said. "Furthermore, it is beyond the realm of belief that it would cost $25 per student to verify citizenship."
Asking to see an applicant's driver's license, passport or student visa would cost little, he said, adding that the U.S. Department of Homeland Security's Citizenship and Immigration Services charges just 50 cents per name run through its database in the Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements (SAVE) Program. SAVE was created to provide verification for state and federal government agencies wanting to identify the status of beneficiary applicants.
Immigration has grown as a political issue in recent years as the immigrant population has swelled. It became more potent with the recent enactment of a law in Arizona that allows police officers there to check the citizenship of anyone they suspect of being an alien.

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butler123
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butler123 05/15/10 - 05:29 pm
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I tried to get a Pell grant

I tried to get a Pell grant in 1991, and I made 88 dollars too much that year so I had to get a loan instead. I made $13,088. It really upsets me to think that illegals are getting to go for free.

KSL
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KSL 05/15/10 - 07:20 pm
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If employers are asked to

If employers are asked to verify, why not colleges and universities, especially given the consideration of the savings in scholarships and reduced tuition costs?

30cal
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30cal 05/15/10 - 07:45 pm
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Once we start checking you

Once we start checking you will find less and less illeagle's here. and employer's are responsible for checking to be sure your legal.we need to start enforcing these and other laws not just the easy ones.SHe was given 2 tickets and them released .if you or i were arrested for 2 tickets and a felony we would not just be released .IT seems fewer and fewer people are doing their jobs

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corgimom 05/15/10 - 08:06 pm
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"The problem is illegals

"The problem is illegals getting in-state tuition rates if not outright scholarships. Let them attend, just pay the appropriate tuition scale."

Hey, now you're getting it, Trey! The problem is NOT citizenship, it's in-state residency rates- which is not what Eric Johnson is championing.

corgimom
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corgimom 05/15/10 - 08:15 pm
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"Kennesaw State University

"Kennesaw State University (KSU) student Jessica Colotl was stopped by police for a traffic violation. She failed to provide a driver's license and instead presented the police with a Mexican driver's license and expired Mexican passport."

I think anyone with an IQ of over 73 could figure out that she was an illegal alien. So to say "A campus traffic cop easily verified that she was an illegal alien", implies that it would always be easy, and it's not.

baronvonreich
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baronvonreich 05/15/10 - 09:22 pm
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Are the leaders of higher

Are the leaders of higher education really this dumb? Does Errol not think he can just add the $25, or whatever the cost to verify citizenship is, to the application fee? It can be irrelevant to the cost or retainment of professors or the UGA budget.

KSL
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KSL 05/15/10 - 09:35 pm
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Absolutely. And I believe

Absolutely. And I believe residents of Georgia would be glad to pay that extra $25 to ensure many are not cheating the system and taking money from citizens.

TakeAstand
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TakeAstand 05/16/10 - 12:14 am
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It kills me to see people

It kills me to see people keep trying to justify the criminal actions of illegals. I bet yall are some of the same parents I saw at the fair the last couple of times encouraging your kids to cut in front of other kids who had been waiting a long time because you didn't feel like waiting. What makes you or them so special you shouldn't have to do it the right way and wait your turn like everyone else? Same goes for illegals. And obviously we have teachers who think this way teaching our children. It's ok to be criminals and cheat other people as long as you are in school? Very scary!!!

mpowel21
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mpowel21 05/16/10 - 04:13 am
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rjv, you are not paying for

rjv, you are not paying for it, i'm a fulltime student, and I pay over 18,000 a year to go to school, plus housing and expenses off campus. if you want background checks, then you pay for it. this is just another ploy by a desperate repub to win the votes of idiots

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Runner46 05/16/10 - 06:40 am
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It's NOT about foreign

It's NOT about foreign students attending our colleges and universities. It's about foreign students, illegal aliens who attend our colleges and universities while paying taxpayer funded IN STATE TUITION! Then, these foreign students/illegal aliens want U.S. jobs handed to them because they attended a U.S. university! We do not need any more competition for our jobs in this country. Illegal aliens should NEVER be allowed to work in the U.S!

Runner46
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Runner46 05/16/10 - 06:48 am
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Cost too much to check? From

Cost too much to check? From the article: "the U.S. Department of Homeland Security's Citizenship and Immigration Services charges just 50 cents per name run through its database in the Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements (SAVE) Program." So, what's the problem????

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methree 05/16/10 - 08:25 am
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all students have to sign up

all students have to sign up for classes-check them then. student visa, citizenship papers, ga. resident whatever. all of this is available via computer someone (registars office) just needs access.

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78vette 05/16/10 - 09:58 am
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Yes, foreign students can

Yes, foreign students can attend college in this country--foreign students who have legally entered this country on a legally-authorized student visa. Those of you who support this woman, do you realize that she entered college using a false social security number? Do you care that she's driving on our streets without a license putting us at risk? Do you realize that taxpayer dollars were spent giving this illegal alien an education while someone's son or daughter in this country legally was denied entry to a college? Do you realize she scammed the State of Georgia by asking for and getting in-state tuition when that is $5000 versus $14,000 for a foreign or out-of-state student? She wants to be an attorney but breaks any law she feels doesn't apply to her.

The next time a policeman asks you for a valid driver's license, try telling him/her that you don't have one. When you apply for college, try telling them you live in-state and find out what happens when they find out you don't deserve in-state tuition and falsified your application. Try stealing someone else's identity and using their social security number to obtain services and see what happens when you're caught. And, most importantly in this discussion, try entering a foreign country illegally without proper identification and clearance and see where you end up. Enough is enough!!! Enforce our immigration laws. There are poor and unemployed people legally in this country who need the services these illegals are demanding while waving a flag of a foreign country in our streets. California is reaping the benefits of their coddling these illegals--the State is broke!!!! They do not deserve to be rewarded for their criminal activity by giving them United States citizenship. They haven't earned it!!!!

TakeAstand
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TakeAstand 05/16/10 - 10:49 am
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Well put 78vette!!

Well put 78vette!!

BCG
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BCG 05/16/10 - 11:00 am
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Someone please tell me the

Someone please tell me the truth in why the colleges are letting this pass... I am sure they know and are being restrained from putting a stop to it in the tracks.............because I have 2 children in college now and for each I had to produce shot records, birth certificate, SAT's, high school records, tax forms *(mine and theirs) and many other things to prove who they are and where we live..... So the process and needed info is there someone just needs to be allowed to use it

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Little Lamb 05/16/10 - 04:26 pm
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Chancellor Davis is a

Chancellor Davis is a demogogue:

Today Johnson responded to a Morris News Service story that quoted Chancellor Erroll Davis as saying spending $25 to check the citizenship of every student would total the salaries and benefits of 20 professors.

There are expensive ways to check, and there are inexpensive ways to check. And Davis is trying to fool us little people with his comment about checking "every student." You would not have to check every student every year; you would just have to check the new enrollees.

Davis should be severely reprimanded by his supervisor for such an arrogant statement to the law-abiding citizens of Georgia.

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Little Lamb 05/17/10 - 07:52 am
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This incident at Kennessaw

This incident at Kennessaw State shows why the Arizona law is a good first step. The Georgia campus cop could not hold her on Georgia law once he found out she was an illegal alien. But the Arizona law would allow state police to hold an illegal alien if the federal ICE does not detain them.

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